Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Resolution Audio Opus 21 CD Player

2007-07-09 Thread amcluesent
>The Transporter sounds quite good in that it is very even across the frequency range...< Hmm, the reviewer seems to prefer the CD player as it emphasises the bass; as his listening choices were indie rock/pop I guess that sounds 'better'. -- amcluesent

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread Hypnotoad
seanadams;213367 Wrote: > Of course they are, but the whole point of this thread was to ask if the > mods work, or if they're any good. I expect the OP wanted to hear both > sides. > > And BTW, objective vs subjective is an orthogonal issue. You can do > controlled tests (or not) in either case.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread crooner
And also it's the price to pay for being a recognized audio designer in the 21st century. Jim Bongiorno, Sid Smith, Dick Sequerra, Miles Nestorovic and other illustrious audio legends predated the internet forum craze in their heyday. Your typical forum was the letters section of the trade magaz

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread Pat Farrell
seanadams wrote: > ezkcdude;213352 Wrote: >> Sean, it must drive you crazy... > > It really does. I am frustrated and it makes me not want to come here, > but I have seen what happens if nobody challenges this sort of > nonsense. Well, I for one, really, *really* appreciate your taking the time

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
ezkcdude;213352 Wrote: > Sean, it must drive you crazy when people essentially think they know > more than you do about your own device. To your credit, you've got the > patience and self-assuredness to keep this stupid thread open this > long. It really does. I am frustrated and it makes me not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
Hypnotoad;213365 Wrote: > You guys are crazy. People are allowed to post on a forum without doing > double blind testing. Of course they are, but the whole point of this thread was to ask if the mods work, or if they're any good. I expect the OP wanted to hear both sides. And BTW, objective vs

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
I forgot to mention also that what sounds good to you might in fact be a bunch of added distortion or noise, a non-linear frequency response, or simply a couple more dB of amplitude. All easy to do by hacking the analog stage, intentionally or not. Heck, most people like the sound of compression!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread Hypnotoad
tomjtx;213354 Wrote: > Well, that says it all , doesn't it. You guys are crazy. People are allowed to post on a forum without doing double blind testing. I appreciate harmonic's posts. Am I therefore going to believe him? No, it is just another bit of data from another user out there. But it is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread crooner
Totally agreed. The most useless and absurd thread I've ever read on this forum ever. There's a similar thread on the TP as well. Crazy times! -- crooner Customized dual chassis "Super Squeezebox" EAD DSP-7000 Series III DAC with HDCD and mods. VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Audio Researc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-09 Thread WilCox
Here's what Nelson Pass has to say about his amplifiers wearing out: "In fifteen years the electrolytic power supply capacitors will get old. Depending on usage, you will begin to have semiconductor and other failures between 10 and 50 years after date of manufacture. Later, the sun will cool to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread tomjtx
harmonic;213351 Wrote: > Why should i blind test when the differrence was clear as bright > daylight ? > > I have many times conducted blind tests with audio buddyes because it > can be very hard when comparing cables but there really was no need > this time. Well, that says it all , doesn't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread harmonic
Why should i blind test when the differrence was clear as bright daylight ? I have many times conducted blind tests with audio buddyes because it can be very hard when comparing cables but there really was no need this time. seanadams;213346 Wrote: > You didn't say if you did a blind test -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread ezkcdude
Sean, it must drive you crazy when people essentially think they know more than you do about your own device. To your credit, you've got the patience and self-assuredness to keep this stupid thread open this long. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand bina

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread harmonic
First of this is not to flame the transporter the transporter sounded ALOT better in important areas over a lyngdorf cd-1 transport and beleive me thats a pretty high achiefment since the Lyngdorf was designed for an amp like mine. I do also like the progressiv way slim handels things and to b

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
harmonic;213344 Wrote: > > I had the stock transporter wich i had on trial and it was fully burnd > in and i A/B tested it carefully because there was mony back garanti > on the aberdeen transport. > You didn't say if you did a blind test - that's the whole point. A blind test is where you do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread harmonic
Well i did I had the stock transporter wich i had on trial and it was fully burnd in and i A/B tested it carefully because there was mony back garanti on the aberdeen transport. Remember i only use it as a transport i dont have a clue about how the two compare in a system where its used as a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread johann
truckfighters;213251 Wrote: > as far as I am informed it has something to do with several devices > connected to each other via. e.g. RCA cable connection. > you might get different potentials, if one device is connected out of > phase and the other isn't. This is a problem unique to countries w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
harmonic;213306 Wrote: > > but its the same thing that manufactors always say about people that > makes there products better then them self ... ... ... > Bull. Maybe other manufacturers. If you've been reading these forums long enough, you would know that there have actually been some quit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Resolution Audio Opus 21 CD Player

2007-07-09 Thread tomjtx
Why don't you demo both and see for yourself? I would give more credence to Wes Philips and stereophile than a newish online mag with a less expeienced reviewer. But I would still audition both first to make a decision. The problem with that review is that he doesn't tell us if he level matched

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread tomjtx
Harmonic, Perhaps you should try blind testing. I doubt you would hear a difference. As I have stated many times, NO difference was heard in the modded TP through several very high end systems by a group of very experienced audiophiles. But if you want to spend your money on questionable upgrad

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
omega;213318 Wrote: > -seanadams > > you wrote this in this thread: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25907&highlight=fixed+volume > > - > > If you want to ensure 16-bit passthrough with the additional bits being >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread omega
-seanadams you wrote this in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25907&highlight=fixed+volume - If you want to ensure 16-bit passthrough with the additional bits being zeroes, choose "fixed digital volume" i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread JJZolx
omega;213311 Wrote: > Hi "S-Man" > > One more thing.. > > If we change the volume from "Fixed" to "Adjustable" in player > settings, Then the "PAUSE" Fix don´t work. (We are not able to hear any > differance) > > But "Fixed" Volume setting sounds way better than "Adjustable" so > that´s not an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread S-Man
Personally I'm not a fan of super regs so this is where I would start on the Transporter. S-regs are a great example of excellent specs and poor sound IMHO. -- S-Man S-Man's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.ph

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
omega;213311 Wrote: > > But "Fixed" Volume setting sounds way better than "Adjustable" so > that´s not an option for us. > There is no difference between fixed and adjustable (set to 100%). All that happens when you choose fixed is that the volume commands are ignored. Nothing different happen

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
omega;213279 Wrote: > > You demand proof before investigate any real phenomenon, this not so > easy for two normal squeezebox users... What would you like me to do? I listened and I can't hear it. There is nothing more I can do without information from you. So the next step is you need to do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread omega
Hi "S-Man" One more thing.. If we change the volume from "Fixed" to "Adjustable" in player settings, Then the "PAUSE" Fix don´t work. (We are not able to hear any differance) But "Fixed" Volume setting sounds way better than "Adjustable" so that´s not an option for us. /Mats :-) -- omega -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread S-Man
If it's only the red button then the chances of a change in sound are extremely small. Having investigated the power supply to quite an extent I can confirm what Sean Adams said about the current consumption of the SB3. All the red button does is change the display! The display uses quite a lot

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Resolution Audio Opus 21 CD Player

2007-07-09 Thread Jaco
Have a look at the following review at SonicFlare: http://www.sonicflare.com/archives/resolution-audio-and-verity-audio-review-by-sandy-greene.php The following paragraph caught my eye: "The Transporter sounds quite good in that it is very even across the frequency range, has decent dynamic ran

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread harmonic
I recalled when i somtime ago contacted Lyngdorf audio and asked about getting my millennium mk3 moddified i also remember how many words lyngdorf audio used to try convincing me that this modder was the devil himself and all his work was absolutly useless , but what was most memerable

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread omega
Hi "S-Man" Only "ON/OFF" on the remote "Red button" se step 5-9 1. Power on your SB3. 2. Select a good recording, start to play. (My and Hammers sound is now "High END") 3. Select another track on the same album (The sound is now reduced "Hi FI") 4. Select the same recording / track that you s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread Phil Leigh
S-Man;213291 Wrote: > Please could you clarify if what you mean by power ON/OFF. > > Are you pressing the red button on the remote or are you disconnecting > the 5V supply from the SB3? I think that from what Mats said before they are pressing the red button... -- Phil Leigh You want to see

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread CardinalFang
seanadams;213245 Wrote: > I wouldn't put it past anyone... Hey - you should check out my DJ-stylee LP stylus in tha' groove skillz, I've got my cue-in's down to microseconds to get that bass boost from riding the peak 'n' troughs. -- CardinalFang --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread CardinalFang
truckfighters;213251 Wrote: > as far as I am informed it has something to do with several devices > connected to each other via. e.g. RCA cable connection. > you might get different potentials, if one device is connected out of > phase and the other isn't. There are phase inversion switches on s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread S-Man
omega;211813 Wrote: > > > I can go back to the "High End" any time, Pressing the "PAUSE" on the > remote, and Power OFF / ON the SB3 as described above. > > > /Mats :-) Please could you clarify if what you mean by power ON/OFF. Are you pressing the red button on the remote or are you discon

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread omega
Hi ! -JimC -seanadams To clear things out. Both me and "hammer65" are audiophiles that love the squeezebox, we both hear this "effect" and most of our friends to. We are not the same person. we both have the same ISP here in Sweden "Bredbandsbolaget" We work at the same office. We are 100%

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-09 Thread bephillips
Sweet, there it is. All the info in my signature is up to date. Upgraded from 6.5.1 fairly recently. I thought I had clicked up there a few times and had no response, but I now think that was just because of the coarseness of the control. KDF himself told me it was a 7.0 feature. Very cool. Thi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread Phil Leigh
There is a phenomena connected to radiated RFI that can change according to which way round you connect live and neutral ON SOME EQUIPMENT. I have a device called an RF Sniffer that produces an audible signal when it detects RFI/EMI (bit like those things they sell in DIY shops to detect mains ca

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-09 Thread Phil Leigh
JimC;213217 Wrote: > Rule of thumb... > > Green stuff growing in garden == GOOD > Green stuff growing on bread == BAD > Green stuff growing on Cu cables == BAD ummm - good rule, to which one might add Green stuff growing in wallet == GOOD Green stuff growing in shower == BAD -- Phil Leigh Y

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-09 Thread SteveEast
Siduhe;213235 Wrote: > Are you using the Fishbone skin in 6.5.2 or 6.5.0? The click on the > progress bar is certainly working for me with 6.5.2, and I'm sure it's > worked like that in the past for 6.5.1 at least. You do need to use > Fishbone however. > > As azinck3 says, it's not precisely

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread truckfighters
as far as I am informed it has something to do with several devices connected to each other via. e.g. RCA cable connection. you might get different potentials, if one device is connected out of phase and the other isn't. surely AC is AC and the whole sentence I wrote doesn't really make sense. bu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
CardinalFang;213237 Wrote: > You might as well say that it matters at what exact moment you play a > track as you need to make sure that the music is exactly aligned with > the absolute phase of the mains supply. I wouldn't put it past anyone... -- seanadams --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread CardinalFang
truckfighters;213231 Wrote: > @sean: > > some audio devices sound different when turning the 230V power plug via > 180 degrees (change phase). does this also apply to transporter? I've never heard that one before. You might as well say that it matters at what exact moment you play a track as yo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
truckfighters;213231 Wrote: > > some audio devices sound different when turning the 230V power plug via > 180 degrees (change phase). That's news to me. > does this also apply to transporter? No. AC is AC. From the input transformer's perspective there simply is no polarity, and phase can on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread truckfighters
well I say try it out for yourself. it's not a big deal... unplug everything and just try it with your CDP / AMP combo... don't expect the sound to change, but the stereo stage / image... I will kindly await your answer. -- truckfighters | Transporter | REDGUM RGASil OCC Silver Interconnect

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-09 Thread Siduhe
bephillips;213230 Wrote: > I'm still in 6.5, no clicking in the progress bar yet for me. I'm glad > to hear that it's coming. Are you using the Fishbone skin in 6.5.2 or 6.5.0? The click on the progress bar is certainly working for me with 6.5.2, and I'm sure it's worked like that in the past f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-09 Thread bephillips
I'm still in 6.5, no clicking in the progress bar yet for me. I'm glad to hear that it's coming. -- bephillips More than 33159 songs on 3246 albums by 2029 artists. SlimServer Version: 6.5.3 - 12361 Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R218) - EN - utf8 Perl Version: 5.8.6 darwin-thread-multi-2level MySQL Vers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread truckfighters
@sean: some audio devices sound different when turning the 230V power plug via 180 degrees (change phase). does this also apply to transporter? -- truckfighters | Transporter | REDGUM RGASil OCC Silver Interconnects | REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP | REDGUM LS Cable | B&W Nautilus 802 D | >>> Live musi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
truckfighters;213227 Wrote: > thanks for the quick answer, sean. > > sean, will you MOD my slim devices transporter :) `? > Nope. It's already as good as I can make it. I could swap out a bunch of random parts for you, but that'll make it sound worse. > > I really love it, but like I said be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread truckfighters
thanks for the quick answer, sean. sean, will you MOD my slim devices transporter :) `? I really love it, but like I said before, if there is a way to make it sound even better? how critical is it to use the correct phase in the power cord connection? -- truckfighters | Transporter | REDGUM

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
truckfighters;213219 Wrote: > > is there any way to use a converter-cable from XLR to RCA and does this > make sense? You don't want to do that. Transporter has a proper balanced->unbalanced converter driving its RCA outputs, so that the RCAs get the maximal benefit of a fully balanced signal p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-09 Thread truckfighters
well my amp only has CINCH (RCA) inputs, no XLR. is there any way to use a converter-cable from XLR to RCA and does this make sense? I heard that the XLR has about 3 volts ouput while the RCA only around 1-2 volts? so it really has to be a converting-cable and this on the other hand will comprom

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread JimC
hammer65;213201 Wrote: > ...I can't buy Seanadams comment: "There is nothing different between a > pause and a power off aside from what's shown on the screen". Why can > we hear the difference when nothing happens?Could it be a clock issue > or maybe a jitterproblem that affects the soundquality

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-09 Thread JimC
Videodrome;213205 Wrote: > ...On the other hand, I have seen several cables (particularly old, 10 > ga. Monster Cable speaker wire) turn green with oxidation. I'm not an > electrical engineer, but that has got to have deleterious effect on the > sound. Rule of thumb... Green stuff growing in g

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread Phil Leigh
Hammer... Sean ought to know if there is a difference in operation between power off and pause - after all he did design the thing!. If you check the "locked" light on your MF DAC you will see that it never even flickers when changing from pause-play-power off, implying that the digital stream is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread seanadams
hammer65;213201 Wrote: > I'm very satisfied with my squeezebox and my music listening life is > much easier since I got rid of all of my cdrecords. > The only problem is the issue described in this thread. To obtain > highest sound quality I have to restart the unit. > Many of my friends have bee

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-09 Thread Videodrome
Based on my own observations, I think there is a life span to these products, but it does not have anything to do with how many hours a signal has passed through them, but instead, relates to how long they've been just sitting there -- whether in use, or not in use. I have many pairs of cables th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-09 Thread azinck3
bephillips;213113 Wrote: > I'd like: A clickable progress bar in the browser UI, that skips to the > position in the track clicked on. This basic functionality already exists in Fishbone (though the resolution is a bit coarse). -- azinck3 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread hammer65
I'm very satisfied with my squeezebox and my music listening life is much easier since I got rid of all of my cdrecords. The only problem is the issue described in this thread. To obtain highest sound quality I have to restart the unit. Many of my friends have been at my home for listening tests a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which Interconnect Cable??

2007-07-09 Thread adamslim
Digital cables are much more an issue of what DAC you have, not what digital source. Your DAC may have a better receiver for toslink vs coax, for example. You may have earthing issues, which might favour toslink. Or it may be well-designed enough for it not to matter. However, I agree with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-09 Thread opaqueice
seanadams;213013 Wrote: > > What's the point? Do you just want attention, or do you actually think > that you can prove something this way? I think this is a little overly harsh. He did try a blind test, or says he did, and I think we have to take him at his word. I don't think he's a troll.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-09 Thread AndyC_772
Skunk;213183 Wrote: > ...Unless they're the type that use two AA batteries. > > What I want to know is when do I need to replace the circuit board > traces on my electronics? Never mind them, it's the bond wires in the chips you want to worry about ;) -- AndyC_772 --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-09 Thread Skunk
corbey;213145 Wrote: > Therefore, sooner or later, the cables will run out of electrons and > you'll need new ones. ...Unless they're the type that use two AA batteries. What I want to know is when do I need to replace the circuit board traces on my electronics? -- Skunk ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-09 Thread opaqueice
mswlogo;213047 Wrote: > It seems the "experts" believe break in is neccessary for cables and > components. > This implies things are constantly changing and wearing. > If thats the case why not recommend replacement after so many hours. > Actually, I've yet to hear of an expert that believes in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which Interconnect Cable??

2007-07-09 Thread harmonic
Unless you have a ultra highend system and have done everything else to optimize it and and pretty much al components are end off the road components i wouldent worry about cables for one second. Many people buy ultra expensiv cables based on ads and here a improvment but when the installe there