Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
ezkcdude;214087 Wrote: > SO, WRITING WITH A PENCIL AND PRINTING WITH A LASER PRINTER ARE SIMILAR > BECAUSE THEY BOTH INVOLVE PUTTING WORDS ON PAPER? > > I agree that digital consists of 1's and 0's, but actually writing and > reading those 1's and 0's is the "devil in the details", so to speak.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread amey01
opaqueice;214115 Wrote: > You seem to be missing a rather basic point. 2007 science has > demonstrated that two identical stimuli, reproduced several times, can > and will produce very different perceptions in the same person. So > just the contrary, 2007 science predicts that you WILL hear dif

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
Which DVR is it by the way? Are the files plain old mpegs or transport streams, or are they in some kind of special container format? If the latter, it is possible that they have some additional data generated during the encoding process to facilitate scanning. Would be interesting to do a packet

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
thomsens;214126 Wrote: > Just curious...why do DVRs have no problem with a workable version of > this feature? I would think that would be more challenging than audio > only. Mine does it fine while streaming from my NAS over the network. Hmmm well one thing video has going for it is that ther

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread tyler_durden
opaqueice;214115 Wrote: > So just the contrary, 2007 science predicts that you WILL hear > differences even when they're not there - and you do. I've never > understood why people have so much trouble with that concept. I think that your average, golden-eared audiophile is just like the guy who

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW

2007-07-12 Thread thomsens
Just curious...why do DVRs have no problem with a workable version of this feature? I would think that would be more challenging than audio only. Mine does it fine while streaming from my NAS over the network. -- thomsens ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread tomjtx
barty;214120 Wrote: > Holy cow aberdeencomponents... > > You're doing yourself no favors going into a manufacturer's Forum and > stirring up trouble like a gradeschool bully. > > How can you possibly think that your behavior is going to entice > customers to give you their hard-earned money f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread barty
Holy cow aberdeencomponents... You're doing yourself no favors going into a manufacturer's Forum and stirring up trouble like a gradeschool bully. How can you possibly think that your behavior is going to entice customers to give you their hard-earned money for your services when you can't eve

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] budget system help

2007-07-12 Thread drewe181
swhite58;213875 Wrote: > I recently compared the CA Azur 540 v2 with a NAD c320BEE and didn't > find much difference between them. The NAD sounded a bit more forward, > and the CA had a bit more detail in the bass. I ended up with the NAD. > > I'd love to hear a T-amp sometime - I'm curious.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread opaqueice
amey01;214113 Wrote: > > I certainly hear differences between reading from hard disk / CD / > streaming / optical cables / coax cables, etc. Now, 2007 science says > that I should hear no difference, but that is simply no the case. You seem to be missing a rather basic point. 2007 science has

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread amey01
Those trying to be logical here "yes/no, right/wrong, 1/0" etc. need to realise that their logic is based on science, and 2007 science is NOT complete. Things happen that 2007 science cannot explain. I certainly hear differences between reading from hard disk / CD / streaming / optical cables

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
seanadams;214109 Wrote: > Are you surprised that Transporter has similar specs to those of the DAC > chip that's in it?! > > As it turned out the specs were a couple dB better once a few final > tweaks were made, and mass produced PCBs from the factory were tested. > That testing took place a f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
tomjtx;214107 Wrote: > Very well said, Sean. > > AP has some serious problems comunicating in a civil manner. > > He has been banned from several other audio forums. HI Tom, Sean said if he change a bunch of parts, it would sound worse. You said it sounded the same... did you get your ears ch

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
aberdeencomponents;214106 Wrote: > > > So Sean... Tell us where you got the Specs from... :C)... Are you surprised that Transporter has similar specs to those of the DAC chip that's in it?! As it turned out the specs were a couple dB better once a few final tweaks were made, and mass produc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread tomjtx
Very well said, Sean. AP has some serious problems comunicating in a civil manner. He has been banned from several other audio forums. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
CPC;214097 Wrote: > I've been told the best connection to the primary side is the one > that yields the lowest voltage reading from neutral to ground/chassis. Andy, Again, Experiment yourself and take your own measurements. Keeping in phase alone can cut ripple in 1/2. trivia: On a digital ou

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread andy_c
aberdeencomponents;214100 Wrote: > My posts are made from actually testing. I do not flap out of my rear > end, like some others. I've heard of this measurement of residual AC voltage and that makes sense. This has nothing to do with transformer dots though. The dot convention is just as I men

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
aberdeencomponents;214100 Wrote: > Andy, > > When you experiment yourself, then talk. > > If you have the test gear I Own or have access too, > and spend the amount of time testing products like I do, then talk. > > Already Sean backed down on a private email, when I was ready to > discuss th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
Did anybody else notice the Transporter Early specs posted on Slim Devices was actually the measurments taken from the AKM Dac spec sheet, Not the Transporter itself?? Anthony -- aberdeencomponents aberdeencomponents's P

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread andy_c
CPC;214097 Wrote: > I've been told the best connection to the primary side is the one that > yields the lowest voltage reading from neutral to ground/chassis. I think you'd want to measure from the local safety ground to the signal common (say, outer ring of RCA jack), assuming the equipment doe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
andy_c;214085 Wrote: > The transformer dot notation has nothing to do with any sort of > *absolute* attribute of any given coil of a transformer. It only > serves to specify the algebraic sign of the coupling *between* coils. > If I take a transformer symbol and swap the positions of all the do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread CPC
andy_c;214088 Wrote: > Your question assumes the existence of a "right way". > > For a dual supply (positive and negative), one might envision getting a > small improvement in measured hum by swapping the primary leads. But if > this is so, then it's likely the result of asymmetrical capacitive

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread andy_c
CPC;214086 Wrote: > So, please tell us which way is the "right" way to connect the AC line > input to a transformer. Your question assumes the existence of a "right way". For a dual supply (positive and negative), one might envision getting a small improvement in measured hum by swapping the pr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread ezkcdude
AndyC_772;214073 Wrote: > There never really was, though. Reading a CD isn't much different to > reading a hard disc - both are digital, ie. yes or no, right or wrong. SO, WRITING WITH A PENCIL AND PRINTING WITH A LASER PRINTER ARE SIMILAR BECAUSE THEY BOTH INVOLVE PUTTING WORDS ON PAPER? I ag

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread CPC
andy_c;214085 Wrote: > The transformer dot notation has nothing to do with any sort of > *absolute* attribute of any given coil of a transformer. It only > serves to specify the algebraic sign of the coupling *between* coils. > If I take a transformer symbol and swap the positions of all the do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread andy_c
The transformer dot notation has nothing to do with any sort of *absolute* attribute of any given coil of a transformer. It only serves to specify the algebraic sign of the coupling *between* coils. If I take a transformer symbol and swap the positions of all the dots at once, that transformer w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
I'm surprised no one's said this yet, but 1000 hours = 41 days. I bet the cable you buy every 4 weeks has sat on the shelf longer than that... Also if you use the $100/ft stuff, that's a ridiculously huge ongoing investment. Even the cheap Home Depot stuff would sure add up if you replaced it 8

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
Videodrome;214051 Wrote: > I called DH Labs. Isn't that like going to a car dealership and asking the salesman if he recommends you should go with one of his vehicles or keep driving your '92 Ford Taurus? Replacing your cables every 1000 hours = a good strategy to ensure repeat/ongoing sales.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread pfarrell
AndyC_772;214073 Wrote: > Reading a CD isn't much different to reading a hard disc - both are > digital, ie. yes or no, right or wrong. Why should playing a .WAV file > directly off a CD-ROM via SlimServer be any different to playing a > regular CD in a CD player? It depends. An audio CD playe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
There never really was, though. Reading a CD isn't much different to reading a hard disc - both are digital, ie. yes or no, right or wrong. Why should playing a .WAV file directly off a CD-ROM via SlimServer be any different to playing a regular CD in a CD player? -- AndyC_772 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
AndyC_772;214062 Wrote: > You still here??? > > Please, do explain what bad thing happens if you connect the primary > the other way around. Make specific reference to the 'figure-8' plugs > fitted to a lot of hi-fi and other consumer equipment. Andy, I do have better things to attend to. Not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread ezkcdude
The fundamental problem with CD (or vinyl or any other format over the past 100 years) is that the playback mechanism was somehow dependent on the physical format. What the SqueezeBox (or generally the PC) does that is revolutionary IMO is separate the data from the physical carrier. Thus, we no l

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread snarlydwarf
cliveb;214047 Wrote: > With all due respect, my understanding is that CD rot (of the PDO type) > is completely different. The metallic layer under the lacquer gets > attacked and slowly turns a "bronze" colour. This happens from the > outside edge inwards. In extreme cases the metallised layer ge

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
aberdeencomponents;214053 Wrote: > Neutral to the dot mark (Start of the winding) of the transformer, Hot > the end of the winding. > On the output side of the transformer if going to Diode make the start > of the winding (dot mark) the Ground. You still here??? Please, do explain what bad thin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What benefits are there upsampling Internet radio?

2007-07-12 Thread Videodrome
funkstar;214054 Wrote: > Enough people argue about the merits of upsampling a CD, i would say > there is even less point in upsampling a heavily compressed lossy > internet audio stream. The whole thing kind of struck me like throwing a doily on a turd. -- Videodrome Two-channel System: SB3,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
seanadams;213886 Wrote: > I didn't say all mods are BS. I said (in the context of commercial mods) > that the ones I've heard of for Transporter are BS. Those who have been > reading this forum for a while know that at one time there was a quite > constructive and intelligent dialogue which took

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread aberdeencomponents
seanadams;213871 Wrote: > Wow. Of course you don't. What do us pencil necks know about anything? > Working directly with a major transformer manufacture, power quality > engineers, and hands-on experience is alot better than textbook > reading. > > > That's correct. When connecting coils toget

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What benefits are there upsampling Internet radio?

2007-07-12 Thread funkstar
Videodrome;213963 Wrote: > But what actually is happening here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I > don't believe Internet Radio streams anywhere near the CD standard of > 16 bit / 44.1kHz, so what benefits am I getting by upsampling the radio > stream? Enough people argue about the merits of upsa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread omega
Hi ! About this "original cd versus a cdr" Offtopic thing.. If they sound different could it be because of things like: 1. Original Cds have aluminium coating and Cdr have another coating .(Gold or silver?) Anyway some of them are "Green" some are "silver" some "black" etc.. If its easier f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-12 Thread Videodrome
But at any rate, the AC comparison was tough for me to buy into, because I think a simple on/off test is not a particularly comparable test for audio cable performance. The way I see it, so long as oxidation/corrosion to the copper in the AC connection does not reach the point of total failure,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread cliveb
snarlydwarf;213849 Wrote: > Although there is also the phenomena of disc rot which is real and > document. (And leaves pin prick sized holes throughout the disc.) With all due respect, my understanding is that CD rot (of the PDO type) is completely different. The metallic layer under the lacquer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread darrenyeats
opaqueice;214038 Wrote: > > It might also be that essentially all modern digital sources, playing > any form of uncompressed 16/44.1 media, are indistinguishable by ear. > I wonder how many subjectivists are open-minded enough to admit *that* > possibility. I think that is too much of a sweepi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;214028 Wrote: > Yes but they also seem open minded enough to realise that they just may > not have devised the right test ... yet. It could be that they haven't found the right test, yes - although it's interesting that (as usual) the subjects were confident they could tell the dif

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours

2007-07-12 Thread mswlogo
Videodrome;213715 Wrote: > I'm not sure that's an apples to apples comparison. You're talking > about delivering raw voltage -- it's either on or off. > > Presuming of course you're in the camp that believes there are > discernable differences between cables, would you agree that how > variou

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;214025 Wrote: > Did you notice the most relevant conclusion, which is that there were no > statistically significant audible differences, either in the large scale > listening tests or in the two expert listeners they tested individually? Yes but they also seem open minded enough to re

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;214016 Wrote: > Thanks for the link. > > They seem to be attributing any differences to servo noise being passed > through the DAC. So I guess that would make me right on the cause, but > wrong on the mechanism? > Did you notice the most relevant conclusion, which is that there

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread CardinalFang
Pat Farrell;214014 Wrote: > This thin layer of metal is unstable and will oxidise if it is not > protected by a lacquer. That just screams for audiophile products that remove the latent voltage potential from the plasma, and a range of pit stabilising green pens. As for the lacquer on my audioph

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
CardinalFang;214013 Wrote: > http://www.randi.org/ The forum has quite a few (100+) postings on > audio, there's also audiophools. That's where I was looking. I thought Randi himself did an article on it, but I can't find it there. Lots of posts in the forum about it though. -- Mark Lanctot

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick Dixon
seanadams;214006 Wrote: > No way. The clock comes from a crystal in the CD player, not the disc. > > http://www.prismsound.com/m_r_downloads/cdinvest.pdf > > If you don't have time to read the whole paper at least see the > conclusion for their idea as to why numerically identical CDs could >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread CardinalFang
Mark Lanctot;214011 Wrote: > I thought he already did, with an article about cable magic, but I can't > find it at his website anymore. http://www.randi.org/ -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Pat Farrell
CardinalFang wrote: > Not quite, the plastic part is pressed, but the pits are coated by > metallising using a plasma. The pits are then covered in plastic, but > you are right in that it is a copying process, not a mastering one like > making a CDR. I stand corrected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread CardinalFang
Pat Farrell;214009 Wrote: > Commercial CDs, and DVDs are pressed, not burned. > They are stamped out much in the spirit of vinyl records. Not quite, the plastic part is pressed, but the pits are coated by metallising using a plasma. The pits are then covered in plastic, but you are right in that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
CardinalFang;214008 Wrote: > James Randi would have a field day with this industry... I thought he already did, with an article about cable magic, but I can't find it at his website anymore. Yes, it's exactly the sort of thing he challenges, that our perceptions and preconceived notions cloud e

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread CardinalFang
seanadams;213966 Wrote: > I have to disagree with you there. The reason it has a polarized plug is > so that the fuse is assured to be on hot side. Isn't it also the case that > mains switches also sometimes only switch the live and not both live and neutral? I do also remember reading somewher

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Commercial CD manufacturing

2007-07-12 Thread Pat Farrell
CardinalFang wrote: > Presumably you mean the original master rather than the copies which > are manufactured by another process other than burning. Commercial CDs, and DVDs are pressed, not burned. They are stamped out much in the spirit of vinyl records. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick Dixon
CardinalFang;214004 Wrote: > Presumably you mean the original master rather than the copies which are > manufactured by another process other than burning. I meant the CDR got burnt, and the pit spacing is probably different to the original CD - whether it's stamped or not. -- Patrick Dixon

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
Patrick Dixon;214001 Wrote: > I think if there is any difference between a CD and a CDR it's more > likely to be because the data got burnt with a more or less stable > clock, which then affects the read clock, and hence the DAC clock. > > So jitter rather than errors. No way. The clock comes f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread CardinalFang
Patrick Dixon;214001 Wrote: > I think if there is any difference between a CD and a CDR it's more > likely to be because the data got burnt with a more or less stable > clock, which then affects the read clock, and hence the DAC clock. > > So jitter rather than errors. Presumably you mean the o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wired to wireless headphones: is conversion possible?

2007-07-12 Thread Furry
What you could use is a bluetooth transmitter and receiver. Of course, it might not be the highest-fi, but A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) sounds pretty good. I use the Sony HWS-BTA2W Transmitter / Receiver (you can choose which it is to be) and the Sony-Ericsson MBR-100. Dave. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick Dixon
CardinalFang;213995 Wrote: > There is a belief in some audio circles that if you rip a CD using EAC > and then burn a CDR with an exact copy, you get in effect a better > pressing. In other words, EAC can do a better job of getting the data > than a CD player and the resulting CDR is better that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread ezkcdude
Ejorne;213993 Wrote: > So maybe the spdif stream is different. That's also the reason that i > mentioned it in this topic, maybe some spdif difference also are in the > squeezebox... Different from what? Actually, I don't even know if the original poster was using the spdif output. I assumed the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread CardinalFang
Ejorne;213967 Wrote: > But i don't want to go further off-topic. This is a topic about the > squeezebox and not about cdr. The thing about cdr was just to > illustrate the common phenomenon. ... There is a belief in some audio circles that if you rip a CD using EAC and then burn a CDR with an ex

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wired to wireless headphones: is conversion possible?

2007-07-12 Thread azinck3
aweller;213931 Wrote: > Dear all, > > I have been testing out some wireless headphones for use with my > Squeezebox. In short, I've boiled it down to the Sennheiser RS130s or > RS140s. Have you actually been *testing* them? That is, have you used them? I bought a pair of RS120s and, despite t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Ejorne
ezkcdude;213990 Wrote: > Ejorne, first let me say I believe you're not a troll. Second, I think > this is not really OT, given the nature of this thread. I still do not > know, because you have not said, are you listening to the CD and CDR on > a CD player, or are you talking about listening to t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] replaygain and volume control

2007-07-12 Thread cgmarshall
Thanks for the advice. Given I use one of Patricks SB+, I'll trust his opinion on this, just to ease my paranoia! I think the best answer is I'll turn it on for background listening when the volume differences are most annoying and switch it off when I want to listen more seriously. I second th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread ezkcdude
Ejorne;213967 Wrote: > I don't use mp3 (duh) i create wav's with "exact audio copy" and then > burn them to cdr. When ripping it back to the computer the data is > identical to that from the original cd. BUT the cdr sounds indeed > different than the original. I can prove it by abx and/or dbt. >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick Dixon
seanadams;213976 Wrote: > On the contrary, the ears are magnificent instruments. The problem is > with people who don't know how to do critical listening using ONLY > their ears. It's really difficult - you need your brain as well ;-) -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
servies;213935 Wrote: > A true scientist knows his/her ears are crap. On the contrary, the ears are magnificent instruments. The problem is with people who don't know how to do critical listening using ONLY their ears. -- seanadams -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wired to wireless headphones: is conversion possible?

2007-07-12 Thread krochat
aweller;213931 Wrote: > I have been testing out some wireless headphones for use with my > Squeezebox. In short, I've boiled it down to the Sennheiser RS130s or > RS140s. However, I have a decent pair of Sennheiser wired headphones > already that I am happy with (sound, comfort, etc). My question

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
seanadams;213970 Wrote: > It's 3v3, but you could bypass regulator U9 to give it 5V. However then > you'd effectively have AVDD and DVDD tied directly together and this > might not be ideal. Personally I'd be more worried about having digital 5.0V now connected to VREFH - any noise on that pin e

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
AndyC_772;213955 Wrote: > One unfortunate difference: the AK4397 isn't able to accept a 3.3v > digital supply, only 5.0v, though it does accept 3.3v logic input > levels. So, any modification would have to provide a 5.0v supply, > ideally separate from the analogue 5.0v, and would also have to >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
Ah - there's an international variation there. Here in the UK, as I'm sure you know, we have 3 pin plugs that have a fuse built into them on the live (hot) side, so it's quite hard to electrocute yourself. The only occasion on which it's normally possible to swap live & neutral is on equipment th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Ejorne
servies;213962 Wrote: > Maybe you should create an image of the CD before burning it to CDR in > stead of creating mp3's and burning those back to a CDR... > A 1 on a CDR has the same value as a 1 on a CD or do you think that a > CD player acts like: "Geez... bummer, a CDR, what a cheapskate. You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread seanadams
AndyC_772;213903 Wrote: > > (After all, you wouldn't go round replacing all your fuses with nails > to 'improve the power supply', would you? You would? Darwinian > evolution in action. Go right ahead). > I prefer the sound of a hollow point .22. :) > > So, if you have reversible mains plu

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What benefits are there upsampling Internet radio?

2007-07-12 Thread Videodrome
I bought a Behringer SRC2496 which arrived this week. I haven't had a whole lot of time to play with it; so this morning, I thought I would burn it in a bit by running a signal through it so it's all nice and warmed up when I get home. For this purpose, I fed it one of the Internet radio station

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread servies
Ejorne;213947 Wrote: > Excuse me for making my first post on this forum so ugly one. But i was > mentioned from another forum-topic to this one. I'm from the > Netherlands and not a frien of Omega. > > I did only post this answer because it did look so familier with the > one i did noticed with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] replaygain and volume control

2007-07-12 Thread nelamvr6
Schindler;213960 Wrote: > so to use Replaygain my mp3 tags must be modified? > > christian Yes. You can use Foobar2000 to accomplish this, it's free. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/membe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] replaygain and volume control

2007-07-12 Thread Schindler
so to use Replaygain my mp3 tags must be modified? christian -- Schindler Schindler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36742 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
One unfortunate difference: the AK4397 isn't able to accept a 3.3v digital supply, only 5.0v, though it does accept 3.3v logic input levels. So, any modification would have to provide a 5.0v supply, ideally separate from the analogue 5.0v, and would also have to disconnect the digital outputs (whi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Ejorne
ezkcdude;213940 Wrote: > Although you're probably a troll, and/or a friend of omega (first posts > showing up in these flame wars are almost always a dead giveaway), I > will give you the benefit of the doubt. What does playing a CD vs. CDR > on a *CD player* have anything to do with the SqueezeB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
Some of my FLAC files have pinholes in them :( -- AndyC_772 AndyC_772's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] replaygain and volume control

2007-07-12 Thread nelamvr6
In my experience replaygain does not adversely affect sq. Replaygain works by attaching tags to each file which contain instructions to the player on how to adjust volume. This is one of the best features of replaygain, the file itself is not affected at all. The tags can be erased if desired,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] replaygain and volume control

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick Dixon
I don't know how replay gain is implemented, but I personally don't like the results. I'm using the inbuilt volume control, which I'm happy with on it's own, so I'm not sure if it's the combination of the two, or just the replay gain that I don't like. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread ezkcdude
Ejorne;213898 Wrote: > I think it is hard to prove the things Omega is saying. But i think he > could be right. I hear exact the same pfenomenom when playing a > original cd versus a cdr. > > Although you're probably a troll, and/or a friend of omega (first posts showing up in these flame war

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Robin Bowes
omega wrote: > seanadams;213834 Wrote: >> How exactly do you suggest we bet on something if you won't accept >> simple empirical evidence that you are wrong? Will the winner be >> whoever can yell I AM RIGHT the loudest? Or whoever can get the most >> friends to come post on this forum? >> >> No,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread servies
omega;213761 Wrote: > > I got the result from the measurement, but this shows "nothing". > This measure not measuring "Phase" etc. > > I and "Hammer65" will continue investigate this, And post if we found > something. > omega;213901 Wrote: > > Furthermore, a true scientist don't accept the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread 808
I would love to be to give my input to this discussion but I'm from the crowd that buy a SB to play music and not analyse it to death but never the less it makes interesting reading for a 'few' days. omega & co, Sean is not being rude, perhaps he's reaching the point where there is not even the g

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] replaygain and volume control

2007-07-12 Thread cgmarshall
Hi Does anyone know if the usual volume algorithm are used for replaygain tags. My understanding is that if you use the digital volume control above 40, then there is only minimal quality loss (due to reduced SNR). What happens when you use replaygain? Ulitmately I'm trying to ask, if I'm us

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wired to wireless headphones: is conversion possible?

2007-07-12 Thread aweller
Dear all, I have been testing out some wireless headphones for use with my Squeezebox. In short, I've boiled it down to the Sennheiser RS130s or RS140s. However, I have a decent pair of Sennheiser wired headphones already that I am happy with (sound, comfort, etc). My question is: is it possible

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread Skunk
truckfighters;213926 Wrote: > can you explain this a little better for my understanding, please? > the device still works after removing the crystal? > what is its normal function? On the sb3 you can remove it, but you lose the ability to play 48kHz streams like internet radio, and possibly (?)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] budget system help

2007-07-12 Thread flatface
The advantage of A/B speaker switching on the CA 640a is a big plus for me as an external box is messy/additional cost/possible sound quality problem. I just see time and time again on the web people choosing similarly priced NAD over CA. I will hopefully audition the arcam solo soon and take a tr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread truckfighters
> > AKM released the AK4397 DAC a couple of weeks ago - it's software > compatible with the AK4396, but not, sadly, pin compatible as it comes > in a 44 pin package. > > But, if someone wanted to be creative with their Transporter, it could > be quite an interesting upgrade - just watch that the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread truckfighters
> > Remove the ~12MHz crystal. > > Reason: Uncorrelated noise caused by the 2 crystal oscillators sharing > the same HCU04 package(and possibly the same silicon area on the > Xilinx). > can you explain this a little better for my understanding, please? the device still works after removing the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Bas Horneman
My son and I could not hear a difference. Not that that counts for anything. But I was interested in trying for myself...even after reading Adam's statements that the only difference between pause and off and then on is the screen. Omega... > Whatever, what I'm suggesting is nothing else but a s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
AKM released the AK4397 DAC a couple of weeks ago - it's software compatible with the AK4396, but not, sadly, pin compatible as it comes in a 44 pin package. But, if someone wanted to be creative with their Transporter, it could be quite an interesting upgrade - just watch that the kludge (sorry,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread AndyC_772
truckfighters;213892 Wrote: > power line correct phase: > > Orientation of mains plug: > The correct polarization of mains is important for reasons of audio > clarity and stability. > > for the folks who never heard of that, I found this nice article: > http://www.audaud.com/audaud/JUL01/EQUIP/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread S-Man
truckfighters;213892 Wrote: > but for now, I am asking for SERIOUS mods for the TRANSPORTER! > and I would like to hear comments from users that actually heard them! > A/B audition is not a necessity. Personal findings are just fine! > > thanks. > > :) Ok, now that we are (sort of) back on top

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread omega
seanadams;213834 Wrote: > How exactly do you suggest we bet on something if you won't accept > simple empirical evidence that you are wrong? Will the winner be > whoever can yell I AM RIGHT the loudest? Or whoever can get the most > friends to come post on this forum? > > No, I am not interested

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-12 Thread Ejorne
seanadams;213834 Wrote: > How exactly do you suggest we bet on something if you won't accept > simple empirical evidence that you are wrong? I think it is hard to prove the things Omega is saying. But i think he could be right. I hear exact the same pfenomenom when playing a original cd versus a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any good mods for Transporter out there? Validated?

2007-07-12 Thread andy_c
There is actually some rational information on this subject as well. See: http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/ampins/groundloops/grndloop.htm Figure 3. For equipment with an ungrounded chassis, one can measure the AC voltage from the chassis to safety ground. When I first thought about this, my im

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