Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread Heimiko
DCtoDaylight;221911 Wrote: > I don't use the digital inputs on my TP that much, but don't mind > lending a hand trouble shooting! I just spent a couple of minutes > switching back and forth between Slimserver and the optical SPDIF input > to the Transporter and had no problems. This is using Sl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb4 ?

2007-08-20 Thread ezkcdude
After almost two years with my SB3, I'm not convinced that an SB4 could really offer much substantial improvement. Sure, the power supply could be made linear, or the DAC stage could be upgraded, but most people who care about such things will inevitably, if not invariably, purchase an external DA

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread DCtoDaylight
I don't use the digital inputs on my TP that much, but don't mind lending a hand trouble shooting! I just spent a couple of minutes switching back and forth between Slimserver and the optical SPDIF input to the Transporter and had no problems. This is using Slimserver version 6.5.3-12376 and TP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] is ASIO still advantageous through squeezebox?

2007-08-20 Thread newbie10
JJZolx;221896 Wrote: > No need for ASIO. Windows sound drivers do not even remotely enter the > equation. SlimServer directly reads the files from the external disk. That's I wanted to hear. Now it's clear to me. Thank you very much! -- newbie10 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SqueezeBox3 DAC vs. DEQ2496 DAC ?

2007-08-20 Thread USAudio
325xi;221787 Wrote: > Why wouldn't you pass signal through DEQ and then to one of the *good* > DAC out there? $$$ Someday I'll probably buy a PS Audio DLIII or Benchmark DAC or something along those lines. -- USAudio SB3 -> Behringer DEQ2496 -> PS Audio Trio C-100 -> Revel Concerta F12's / S

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] is ASIO still advantageous through squeezebox?

2007-08-20 Thread JJZolx
newbie10;221882 Wrote: > And here I come to the question how is the situation when I connect my > external USB hard disk with music to a PC. Is there D/D windows-kernel > conversion too, since the music is going through USB port to PC, or PC > stricly recognizes files as a pure data files and the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] is ASIO still advantageous through squeezebox?

2007-08-20 Thread newbie10
Hello to all of you! I'm newbie and I have a question regarding ASIO drivers and Squeezebox. I'm familiar with the fact that Squeezebox dont' need these drivers since it receiving from Slimserver data files and not audio files and because of this there is no D/D windows-kernel conversion like it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Knob on Transporter default as volume control?

2007-08-20 Thread JJZolx
No, it's not possible. This has been discussed a lot since the Transporter came out. Enhancment requests have been filed. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4247 And that's pretty much where it stands. -- JJZolx Jim -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Knob on Transporter default as volume control?

2007-08-20 Thread MikeFish
As the title suggests is it possible to have the knob on the front of transporter act primarily as a volume knob until the browse or one of the other buttons are pressed. Currently if you just turn the knob it will scroll through the menu. To change the volume you need to press the volume button t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb4 ?

2007-08-20 Thread Pat Farrell
Patrick Dixon wrote: > Well of course you can believe what you like. > > The phases 'well designed DAC' and 'practically immune to jitter' are > pretty vague themselves, but if there's a DAC out there that really is > completely immune to jitter, then I have yet to hear it. The phrases were caref

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread MikeFish
Hi guys. My Transporter has exactly the same problem i.e. if I switch to digital XLR input I get the loud pop. Then if I try to go back to network I get no sound at all until a reboot. The pause trick works but makes it clumsy and difficult to automate with a remote control. I tried the old firmwa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb4 ?

2007-08-20 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;221834 Wrote: > It's not. Can you back that up, or are you simply making assertions? > > That's because the tests are not designed to show the effects of jitter > on an ASRC DAC. Why not? Jitter causes sidebands on ASRC DACs. -- opaqueice

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb4 ?

2007-08-20 Thread Patrick Dixon
Pat Farrell;221291 Wrote: > > I believe that well designed DACs are practically immune to jitter. > Essentially immune to jitter, etc. So it practice, they are immune to > reasonable sources of jitter. > Well of course you can believe what you like. The phases 'well designed DAC' and 'pract

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb4 ?

2007-08-20 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;221827 Wrote: > The Benchmark appears to be completely immune to jitterIt's not. opaqueice;221827 Wrote: > ... at least in all the tests I'm aware of. That's because the tests are not designed to show the effects of jitter on a ASRC DAC. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb4 ?

2007-08-20 Thread opaqueice
325xi;221778 Wrote: > > And if you mean that those "well designed" DACs are immune to jitter in > sense of "you won't hear it anyways" then I'm wrong addressee - I don't > care if I can hear it or not. > http://www.posthorn.com/Images/Bench/Bench_dac1_fft.gif There are no jitter sidebands dow

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiopraise product - will it really output SACD digitally?

2007-08-20 Thread adamslim
agentsmith;221707 Wrote: > Adam I notice that you have a Pioneer 747 which I assume is quite a few > years old. I have the same model which thanks to Squeezebox has rarely > been used. But despite that the unit has been quite unreliable, > required out of warranty repair for failure to play dis

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration

2007-08-20 Thread tingtong5
muski;221813 Wrote: > Very interesting, indeed. > > I wonder if the Tascam US-122L USB audio interface suffers from the > same resampling problem. It is more of a mid-range product, but who > knows if/how it resamples (it supports 44.1, 48 & 96KHz sample rates) . > Is there anyway to detect if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration

2007-08-20 Thread muski
Very interesting, indeed. I wonder if the Tascam US-122L USB audio interface suffers from the same resampling problem. It is more of a mid-range product, but who knows if/how it resamples (it supports 44.1, 48 & 96KHz sample rates) . Is there anyway to detect if there are resampling artifacts in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker

2007-08-20 Thread cliveb
325xi;221783 Wrote: > This is taken pretty much out of context, isn't it? Not as far as I am aware. 325xi;221783 Wrote: > I remember another research discussed here where the numbers were about > 0.5ns, and still, everything was done using artificial signal which > doesn't resemble music Benjam

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread cliveb
nuhi;221773 Wrote: > I too am waiting for this to be solved for months now. It seems that this issue might be beginning to get out of control. To my knowledge, at least two bugs have been filed about problems when switching digital inputs: Bug #4580 (which I filed on 10th Dec 2006) is relatively

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SqueezeBox3 DAC vs. DEQ2496 DAC ?

2007-08-20 Thread 325xi
Why wouldn't you pass signal through DEQ and then to one of the *good* DAC out there? -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthrea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker

2007-08-20 Thread 325xi
cliveb;221132 Wrote: > Eric Benjamin and Benjamin Gannon, "Theoretical and Audible Effects of > Jitter on Digital Audio Quality", Pre-print 4826 of the 105th AES > Convention, San Francisco, September 1998. This paper concluded that > the threshold of audibility of jitter on normal music signals

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb4 ?

2007-08-20 Thread 325xi
Pat Farrell;221291 Wrote: > 325xi wrote: > > Pat Farrell;221208 Wrote: > >> I don't see any point in low jitter, the usual suspects, Benchmark, > >> Larvy, etc. are immune to jitter. > > > > Please, you first know there's no DAC truly immune to jitter. And > think > > about those who have diffe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration

2007-08-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanks - very interesting. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread nuhi
I too am waiting for this to be solved for months now. In case you didn't see my workaround it goes like this: when you are listening to the networked music it has to be playing for digital input to be properly activated. If you hear mumbling then just switch to another digital in and back to th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Beresford 7510 MK 6 - some impressions

2007-08-20 Thread signor_rossi
Didn't know that the second line out can be controlled through the headphone volume. If this is also the case for the MKV, are there any contraindications against using this as a sort of line level control? Bye, signor_rossi. -- signor_rossi ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread Heimiko
cliveb;221741 Wrote: > Are you still using firmware 24? No, after finding 24 being not entirely stable as well, I switched back to 31, for any compatibility issues there might be (as I'm working with a recent nightly build) I might try reverting to 6.5.1 with fw 24 all together, and see if the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread cliveb
Heimiko;221732 Wrote: > I tested the swithing to digital input some further, and it still isn't > quite stable. Sometimes, when switching, I hear some pops through the > speaker, after that, it'll remain silent. Have to reboot the TP in > order to get ANY sound back (including normal playback). A

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration

2007-08-20 Thread tingtong5
Phil Leigh;221572 Wrote: > Fascinating... > What soundcard is it? - Must make a note to avoid at all costs! Creative labs soundblaster live usb. As the DRC manual already warns: Most cheap game oriented soundcards often include a sample rate converter in their design, so that input streams runni

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input -> How?

2007-08-20 Thread Heimiko
JJZolx;221687 Wrote: > This is a known bug. > > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4834 > > Please add your comments and vote on the bug if you'd like to see it > fixed. That's the bug I already voted for. Doesn't really seem like it'll be fixed any time soon. I tested the swithing t