Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread HalleysComet
rydenfan;271284 Wrote: > Do you have any recommendations of where to get a nice XLR set? Seems > like Endler is not even accepting orders right now. An alternative source if you are DIY is K&K Audio. See this page on the bottom of the page: http://www.kandkaudio.com/linestage.html Very nice qu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread HalleysComet
rydenfan;271268 Wrote: > Wow, this is kind of dissapointing news. My TP from Dan is arriving > tomorrow and I cannot believe I will not be able to fully enjoy it :( > I guess I will have to do a frantic search to try and find an XLR pair > as fast as possible. This sucks... It's also a function

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread raulzed
It is indeed a difficult choice in this regard. I recently took the plunge back into vinyl used Rega P25 w/ Super Else cartridge, and a Trigon Vanguard II phono preamp; whilst at the same time upgrading my cd playback system to a highly regarded Cambridge Audio 840C up sampling deck. Actually

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread Timothy Stockman
GuyDebord;271412 Wrote: > I dare anyone to listen to the audiophile digital remaster of miles > davis a kind of blue > ... snip ... > Even any non-audiophile listener will tell you that the cd has less > dynamics and more noise. I don't have Kind of Blue on LP, but I do have the Columbia/Legacy C

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread Robin Bowes
I personally think vinyl sounds better - sod the noise floor! There's something more fluid and musical about a good analogue source. However, I find my Transporter comes very close, plus I get a display to see what each track is called! I occasionally use a CD player to listen to new discs befo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread Timothy Stockman
To comment on the noise floor of a vinyl LP vs CD, there no way an LP can hold a candle to CD; CD has a lower noise floor; end of discussion! That said, I know of few recordings (especially popular), which come anywhere near to using the low noise floor CD offers. Many popular recordings do not e

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread GuyDebord
I dare anyone to listen to the audiophile digital remaster of miles davis a kind of blue in a chord Choral Blu CD transport & Choral DAC64 digital audio converter (15,000) or any other hyper expensive digital front end, and after, listen to a regular press (not 180gr) of the same record on an ave

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] UK: High sen sitivity floor-standers?

2008-02-20 Thread sabre2
Hi I've had an Arcam Alpha CD player and amp from when they didn't have numbers after their name ('88, in this case) and a pair of Linn Index speakers[1] - same vintage. What do you think? 20 year upgrade might be permissible? I mostly listen now to a Squeezebox, through a home-made Meta42 hea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread haraldo
slimkid;271365 Wrote: > Oh, with great pleasure. > Running for cover, > K I don't think that you have to run for cover, I'm sure we can discuss this in an orderly manner :-D Sometimes I go crazy in my responces, like this time :-)) when this Digital / Analog discussion comes up we always tend

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread slimkid
haraldo;271330 Wrote: > I'm also thinking about dynamic range, with high quality gear, I'm not > convinced that the dynamic range in practice is significantly better on > Red-book CD than Vinyl (192/24 is tottaly another issue) > > You can convince me of course, if you like :-D > > -H Oh, with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread Timothy Stockman
Pat Farrell;271306 Wrote: > Vinyl was /is done without loudness wars. > I think Motown used to play the loudness game on their 45s and LPs. They often had, to my ear, a sort of "crunchy" sound. The loudness wars did happen on LP and especially 45, but not to the extent that it's happened with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread haraldo
Phil Leigh;271303 Wrote: > Harald - I said dynamic range (meaning the technical measurement) not > "dynamics" I'm also thinking about dynamic range, with high quality gear, I'm not convinced that the dynamic range in practice is significantly better on Red-book CD than Vinyl (192/24 is tottaly a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread Shredder
Yup, the built in attenuators pnly work w/unbalanced outputs. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42698 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread Phil Leigh
haraldo;271297 Wrote: > Arghh, then we are totally s... (oops, almost bad langauge) > > I've read somewhere though that the noise level on well processed vinyl > is actually lower in some part of the critical midrange compared to > ordinary red-book CD. (This is actually backed by real life > me

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread Pat Farrell
haraldo wrote: > Phil Leigh;271073 Wrote: >> Problem is that vinyl never had very much dynamic range in th e first >> place - and compression (at or before the cutting heads) was >> expected... > > Arghh, then we are totally s... (oops, almost bad langauge) Yes, we are mostly > I've read

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!

2008-02-20 Thread haraldo
Phil Leigh;271073 Wrote: > Oh yes it does! (or did) > Problem is that vinyl never had very much dynamic range in th e first > place - and compression (at or before the cutting heads) was > expected... Arghh, then we are totally s... (oops, almost bad langauge) I've read somewhere though that th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread Robin Bowes
rydenfan wrote: > According to the Transporter owner's manual it has a built-in attenuator > for the balanced outputs. Has anybody tried this? This would be perfect > for me. It has a built-in attenuator for the *un*-balanced outputs. R. ___ audiophile

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread rydenfan
According to the Transporter owner's manual it has a built-in attenuator for the balanced outputs. Has anybody tried this? This would be perfect for me. -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread Shredder
I ordered Endlers. I don't expect to receive them for another month. There are other options mentioned in this and a couple of other posts. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread rydenfan
Do you have any recommendations of where to get a nice XLR set? Seems like Endler is not even accepting orders right now. -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15335 View this thre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread Shredder
I have had no problem enjoying the TP even w/o attenuators. The volume (at least w/my amps) is not ear splitting loud on even the loudest recordings. Just a little loud for conversation or my wife's liking and even then only on certain recordings. Definitely get the attenuators, but don't sweat t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread rydenfan
Shredder;271266 Wrote: > Ryden. I have a Modwright TP also. I run it directly into my power amps > w/no pre. Sound quality is teriffic that way. However, w/no attenuators > (yet), on many discs the volume at even its lowest level is too loud for > casual listening. Thus, I have been shying away f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread Shredder
Ryden. I have a Modwright TP also. I run it directly into my power amps w/no pre. Sound quality is teriffic that way. However, w/no attenuators (yet), on many discs the volume at even its lowest level is too loud for casual listening. Thus, I have been shying away from cds recorded at a high volum

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-02-20 Thread rydenfan
My Modwright Transporter is due to arrive tomorrow. Are you guys saying that I cannot run it directly to my amp with an attenuator? -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15335 View