I'm a big headphone fan. I'm not one of these permanently using them
types, but high quality .mp3s or oggs through modest sony NC IEMs, on a
plane, with a screaming child two rows back, is roughly equivalent to
anything I can achieve at home with my budget. The next approach will
be to wire my por
those senn's would really benefit from a good headphone amp.
The Meier Arrieta is under 300.00 and would make those senns sing.
OTOH , good headphone listening can be addictive and you will just want
to spend more money on bettter phones, better amp,then universal IEM's
for when you want to tune
radish;332475 Wrote:
> The headphone out is well known to be "not so great". It's perfectly
> loud for me (I like my headphones loud and 60% is about as high as I
> can stand), but it is a little anorexic in the bottom end. And that's
> with pretty bass-heavy cans...
I normally have the volume
DCtoDaylight;332327 Wrote:
>
>
> I would expect that we would find that the audibility of jitter depends
> on both the amplitude and the type. We could probably tolerate much
> higher levels of totally random jitter, than a single fixed frequency
> peak.
>
>
This does seem to be true. I'v
radish wrote:
> The headphone out is well known to be "not so great". It's perfectly
> loud for me (I like my headphones loud and 60% is about as high as I
> can stand), but it is a little anorexic in the bottom end. And that's
> with pretty bass-heavy cans...
It takes *power* to drive bass. You n
The headphone out is well known to be "not so great". It's perfectly
loud for me (I like my headphones loud and 60% is about as high as I
can stand), but it is a little anorexic in the bottom end. And that's
with pretty bass-heavy cans...
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radish
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...or does the sound quality from the SB3's headphone jack kinda suck?
I mean, it's pretty good other than the fact there is no BASS! It's
clear and quiet, but then there is that distinct lack of bass goodness.
Plus, there's not any over abundance of output level, either.
See, my current pre ha
ralphpnj;332417 Wrote:
> The chances of jazz getting popular, by any definition of the word
> "popular", are pretty remote.
Thank [EMAIL PROTECTED] for that! I've got some Dexter Gordon, Paul Desmond and
MJQ
discs on order from Amazon ...
BTW since I've gone "Slim" my CD purchasing has shot up
spoon;332403 Wrote:
> I can put it another way, AccurateRip was designed so every
> AccurateStream capable drive with fixed drive offsets (practically
> every drive you can buy) will give accurate results on all tracks if
> the drive is working correctly. You might say that the last second of
> t
Nonreality;332414 Wrote:
> It will if it gets real popular with the ipod and radio crowd. The
> record companies will not be able to resist making theirs stand out.
> :(
The chances of jazz getting popular, by any definition of the word
"popular", are pretty remote so I'm not losing any sleep o
ralphpnj;332354 Wrote:
> Pat,
>
> I believe that we're saying the same thing. I was just trying to give
> some background and to show people that the compression/boost technique
> has been around for a while. That things are much worse now as far as
> dynamic range compression and level boosting
I can put it another way, AccurateRip was designed so every
AccurateStream capable drive with fixed drive offsets (practically
every drive you can buy) will give accurate results on all tracks if
the drive is working correctly. You might say that the last second of
the last track could be silence,
firedog;332152 Wrote:
>
> Like all consumer components, the units are produced to hit a price
> point, and compromises are made. So I don't buy your point at all. In
> fact, the PS would be an obvious place to compromise, b/c it is not a
> "marketable" type of component and one consumers don't p
pfarrell;332357 Wrote:
> To be clear, the compression that ralphpnj and I are talking about is
> separate from the codec compression of MP3, ogg vorbis, etc. Altho in
> both, information is lost and can't be recovered.
In other words, you young folk just run along now and leave us two old
guys t
ralphpnj wrote:
> I believe that we're saying the same thing. I was just trying to give
> some background and to show people that the compression/boost technique
> has been around for a while.
Yes, and in the radio world, there was even good reasons to do it.
Compressed music could be heard farthe
Yes sorry I should have said "Whoever forced the mastering engineer to
master it like that should be taken out and SHOT!"
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann
JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X w
pfarrell;332350 Wrote:
> ralphpnj wrote:
> > years. I remember back in my college radio days in the mid-1970s
> that
> > many commercial radio stations would compress and boost their signal
> > just as I described.
>
> Yes, but Loudness Wars, look it up, is fairly new. The labels force
> the
>
ralphpnj wrote:
> years. I remember back in my college radio days in the mid-1970s that
> many commercial radio stations would compress and boost their signal
> just as I described.
Yes, but Loudness Wars, look it up, is fairly new. The labels force the
mastering engineers to compress all life ou
morris_minor;332267 Wrote:
> I hope posters here exercise the same zeal in attacking the CD loudness
> war (sorry, going off topic here . . ).
At the moment lots of people are up in arms over CD loudness war when
in reality these "wars" are nothing. The use of dynamic range
compression coupled
Phil Leigh;332298 Wrote:
> If jitter really worked like that you could inject controlled, simulated
> jitter into a replay chain and see what happened to the sound...but it's
> not that simple. Jitter is a variation in the clocking mechanism, not a
> discrete analogue artifact in its own right.
opaqueice;332306 Wrote:
> As long as we're talking about jitter at the clock that controls the DAC
> chip proper, it really is that simple. You can read various white
> papers on the web about it, or just draw a picture and you'll see why
> it's true. It's essentially because the timing variati
morris_minor;332312 Wrote:
> Well, exactly! It does play nice'n loud though :o/
I can only imagine it goes up to 11! :o)
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann
JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X
Phil Leigh;332284 Wrote:
> Whoever mastered that should be taken out and SHOT.
Well, exactly! It does play nice'n loud though :o/
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morris_minor
Living Room: SB3/SBC > Sonifex RB DAC1 > Musical Fidelity X10v3 > Sudgen
Headmaster > Yamaha DSPAX-750SE
Kitchen: SBR > Sony Minisystem [via Home
Phil Leigh;332298 Wrote:
> Hmmm...
>
> If jitter really worked like that you could inject controlled,
> simulated jitter into a replay chain and see what happened to the
> sound...but it's not that simple.
As long as we're talking about jitter at the clock that controls the
DAC chip proper, it
Phil Leigh;332298 Wrote:
> Hmmm...
>
> You (SartoriGFX) may have found that the CI DAC works really well with
> the CEC transport compared to the SB.
If the DAC is what makes the difference than any transport should do.
Certainly, the DAC defines the basic sonic signature, but if transports
do
Hmmm...
If jitter really worked like that you could inject controlled,
simulated jitter into a replay chain and see what happened to the
sound...but it's not that simple. Jitter is a variation in the clocking
mechanism, not a discrete analogue artifact in its own right.
My experience with a whol
spoon;332288 Wrote:
> It is not irrelevant, there is an error in the last track and it comes
> from your drive not working correctly (it is nothing to do with offsets
> or overreading as accuraterip discounts the last 5 sectors).
Well, every time it's on the last second of the last track and onl
> it's pretty much irrelevant - and yet would count in your statistics as
> a 100% disk error rate
It is not irrelevant, there is an error in the last track and it comes
from your drive not working correctly (it is nothing to do with offsets
or overreading as accuraterip discounts the last 5 sect
If the jitter spectrum is peaked at some frequency, its effect is to add
anharmonic sidebands at that frequency. In other words, if you have a
1kHz signal with 100 Hz jitter, the resulting analog signal will have a
big peak at 1kHz (the signal) plus smaller peaks at 900 and 1100 Hz (the
distortio
morris_minor;332267 Wrote:
> I've been following this thread with a bemused interest. I use FLAC
> because you can recreate the original wav file should you need it, and
> I don't like the thought of "throwing away" data needlessly. I have
> some MP3s in my library - mostly downloads - but never
TiredLegs;332273 Wrote:
> What exactly does digital jitter sound like after its converted to
> analog?
Apparently, that depends on the amount of jitter and at what frequency
that jitter occurs (jitter is apparently not the same at all
frequencies).
If I am to believe that jitter is the only thi
TiredLegs;332273 Wrote:
> What exactly does digital jitter sound like after its converted to
> analog?
I was wondering when someone was going to ask that :o)
IME a lot of jitter sounds like a headache...or at least you don't want
to listen for very long. It certainly doesn't translate for me in
SatoriGFX;331654 Wrote:
> And yet the jitter present on the digital outputs of the Squeezebox is
> still higher than several traditional transports and is quite audible
> when feeding an external DAC.
What exactly does digital jitter sound like after its converted to
analog?
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TiredLegs
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I've been following this thread with a bemused interest. I use FLAC
because you can recreate the original wav file should you need it, and
I don't like the thought of "throwing away" data needlessly. I have
some MP3s in my library - mostly downloads - but never give more than a
nanosecond's though
ralphpnj;332146 Wrote:
> In fact one would need a very large voltage converter, one capable of
> passing the required current to the amp without any restrictions. Where
> one can find just such a voltage converter I have no idea.
>
First hit on google:
http://www.220converters.com/store/p/175
spoon;332166 Wrote:
> If your drive had the wrong offset configured, every track would be
> flagged as inaccurate (by accuraterip), not just the last track.
OK, then offset is not the cause. Thanks for the information. But my
point stands - since the error is always on the last second of the l
Above that, the site says: Ship to: US only.
Teus
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opaqueice;332134 Wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean here. There's no such thing as "lossless"
> audio or a "lossless file" - there's lossless and lossy -compression-,
> but that's all. When you master a file (regardless of whether or not
> it was at some point compressed using a lossy codec) y
Nuuk;332221 Wrote:
>
>
> And I'll put my flack-jacket on and say that I can hear a difference
> between various 5 volt supplies plugged into my SB3.
so can I, but only on the analogue outputs...
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what yo
Yes, I only use the digital output and one of my aims was to supply the
HCU04 direct. The aim is just to keep improving the PSU to see what
happens and I then plan to try the I2S mod with a DAC in the same
housing.
Those wires are routed through the RCA socket just to limit their
physical movemen
Phil Leigh;332206 Wrote:
> Nuuk - what's with the obscured part? and thanks for illustrating my
> point perfectly :o)
Sorry I can't oblige Phil, if I had wanted you to know what the
obscured part is, I wouldn't have obscured it! ;-)
All that is temporary anyway. I hope to be trying the set up w
Nuuk;332209 Wrote:
> Sorry I can't oblige Phil, if I had wanted you to know what the obscured
> part is, I wouldn't have obscured it! ;-)
>
> All that is temporary anyway. I hope to be trying the set up with some
> Paul Hynes regulators.
I wasn't asking what it was...I was asking why it was obs
Nuuk - what's with the obscured part? and thanks for illustrating my
point perfectly :o)
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann
JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DA
Prototype using separate regulators. Very encouraging so far but
'better' regs required. Sorry if this should be in DIY but it sort of
shows firedog what Phil Leigh is talking about, ie you can't just feed
in a 5v supply and expect to get the best from it.
+--
firedog;332158 Wrote:
> Sorry for additional post, but can Iphone or someone else explain
>
> "I do agree that full potential of an external PSU will only be
> realised if/when the internal supplies can be separated."
>
> I'm just trying to understand as my knowledge of electronics is
> basical
Rick from random was surprised that Van Hemlock didnt play Dark Age of
Camelot.'wow gold' (http://wowgoldgoogle.blogspot.com/)So in the
interest of full disclosure,' buy wow gold' (http://www.mmoinn.com) Im
going to tell you about my Dark Age of Camelot experience. Because I
fully agree with Ric
> drives doesn't have the correct offset configured in accuraterip, which
> means that every time I rip a CD on it the very last track has errors
If your drive had the wrong offset configured, every track would be
flagged as inaccurate (by accuraterip), not just the last track.
> What were the
Sorry for additional post, but can Iphone or someone else explain
"I do agree that full potential of an external PSU will only be
realised if/when the internal supplies can be separated."
I'm just trying to understand as my knowledge of electronics is
basically zero and there seem to be lots of
Hi-
Your quote and my response:
> The Duet and SB3 are not meant to be Audiophile playback sources.
> Changing out the power supply is not going to change that or anything
> else for that matter.
>
> If none of this has sunk in, I will leave you with one last thought.
> Sean took the time to de
ErikM;332131 Wrote:
> Why not buy a used one
> http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatran&1224281847 Seems to
> me that works out to a bunch less euro's even with shipping. You'll
> just need to find someone willing to ship overseas...
Not a good idea. Power amps and integrated amps built
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