Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Themis
Robin Bowes;366978 Wrote: > > (2) is just not possible. Let me attempt an analogy. > > You, Sean, and myself are all sitting at a table with our laptops. They > > are not connected in anyway. > > I have an image file I want to send to you. > > Consider these two scenarios: > > 1. I write th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Themis
tomjtx;366943 Wrote: > That sounds dangerously like tolerance and has absolutely no place on an > audiophile forum.Tolerance is also a necessary ingredient of electronics. ;) -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread maxrob200
I too am eager to find out about the reasons for the sound difference hence my original post in this forum to see if other members have had similar experience -- maxrob200 maxrob200's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread pablolie
things happen for many reasons in audio when people hear differences. listening to music with a switch may sound different simply because the power supply of said switch is horrible and introduces noise everywhere else. i had a friend who preferred the sound of loudspeakers that surprised me. fo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread maxrob200
At the risk of being told again that I am imagining the differences, I have listened to switched and non-switched playback with a variety of music and as much as I would like to bow to general opinion, I can still hear differences in these areas: less sibilance in vocals, smoother sound, more spac

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Goodsounds
Some generic thoughts, NOT directed at anyone or anything in this thread- Many of the smartest people I have known have been far more aware of what they didn't know, than of what they did know. Many of the dumbest people I have known have been incredibly stubborn, and too slow to realize when t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread maxrob200
I agree that open mindedness is important. Sometimes though in the face of "generally accepted" conclusions, some idea or experience comes along that can cause incredulous reactions and start an alternative way of thinking or experimentation. I have never dismissed opinions or discussions as "pooh

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread mswlogo
maxrob200;366954 Wrote: > > > It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now > been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned > earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all > cables sounded the same or all that an amplifier had to d

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread maxrob200
Good analogy. I will bear that in mind and continue testing. -- maxrob200 maxrob200's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55950 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread mswlogo
Robin Bowes;366978 Wrote: > maxrob200 wrote: > > > It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now > > been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned > > earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all > > cables sounded the same or all

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Robin Bowes
maxrob200 wrote: > It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now > been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned > earlier, it was not so long ago that the general belief was that all > cables sounded the same or all that an amplifier had to do was > demons

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter versus Duet, trying to decide

2008-12-05 Thread mswlogo
morris_minor;365425 Wrote: > A bit OT, sorry - but what do you use to rip DVD-As and DTS CDs? I've > both OS X and (a-hem) Vista machines standing by :o) > > Back on topic - I agree with Themis that an SB3's display is really > good to have. My Duet's tucked away in the kitchen where it would be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread mswlogo
Robin Bowes;366670 Wrote: > maxrob200 wrote: > > > In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the > > audiophiles in this forum and done the following > > More advice: be careful whose advice you take, especially > "audiophiles'" > > > 2. Connecting the SB3 directly to the NAS ra

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread maxrob200
It's not wireless, using cable. I am only describing what I hear and yes it is subjective so blind tests within a group could be an interesting exercise. It is interesting to note that by posting an opinion that I have now been relegated to the "imagining things" category. As mentioned earlier,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread tomjtx
Themis;366925 Wrote: > Well, personal beliefs *are* part of the listening experience, actually. > :) > > I would even say that the whole listening process is part of a belief. > > We always enjoy the music imagining that the artist and instruments are > right in front of us, when it's just a bu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Themis
Well, personal beliefs *are* part of the listening experience, actually. :) I would even say that the whole listening process is part of a belief. We always enjoy the music imagining that the artist and instruments are right in front of us, when it's just a bunch of plastic, metal and wood movin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread darrenyeats
This is about to get into a religious debate. It's obvious you don't believe that your mind can influence what you hear, otherwise you would wish to investigate further by doing some blind tests. Some of the others on the forum, me included, believe that our minds can and do influence what we hear

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Robin Bowes
maxrob200 wrote: > And no, I am not imagining the sound differences between standalone and > connected to the switch. Yes you are. You really, really, are. > Like the age old debates among audiophiles about cable differences as > well as amplifier differences despite measurements being identical

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread maxrob200
I want to set a static IP for the SB so that I can use it just with the NAS, nothing to do with sound quality. At the moment, when I just use the NAS and SB, the SB cannot locate the NAS if it has been switched off from the mains. If I just switch cables it works fine as IP has already been given

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Sampler

2008-12-05 Thread wecaoniddmabb789
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!

2008-12-05 Thread wecaoniddmabb789
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Opinions on Sims Audio "BLOW5D"?

2008-12-05 Thread Themis
Probably the price comes from the fact that they're considered as "studio monitors", given the claimed ±1.5 dB, 58 Hz to 20 kHz frequency response. (also because of the XLR digital/analog inputs and the claimed HQ dac) -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano D

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Opinions on Sims Audio "BLOW5D"?

2008-12-05 Thread Mark Lanctot
I just noticed an Internet dealer carrying this: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33707&vpn=BLOW5D-US&manufacture=Infrasonic&promoid=1034 Kinda pricey for their size but unusual in that they have AES/EBU inputs? Any opinions? I'm not considering them, I'm just curious. -- Mark Lan

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter versus Duet, trying to decide

2008-12-05 Thread lanierb
brianz;364775 Wrote: > Themis, I currently have an HDMI connection from my Denon player to my > Yamaha receiver - so I guess I'm already using the Yamaha's DAC, right? > If so, then given that I think CDs sound fantastic now, I suppose that > would suggest that the Duet would be on par with my cu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Themis
bhaagensen;366695 Wrote: > As long as the music plays, i.e. your not getting breakups, pops, > crackles etc. and the switch works for other purposes, there is no way > the switch can affect sound-quality. I won't go into details, but this > is way different than any discussions on e.g. cables, fi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 VBR - Squeezebox or Transporter

2008-12-05 Thread darrenyeats
This is an argument that will never be won by either side. For my part, I've heard pretty great sounding set ups with cheap sources. (Maybe the point is that cheap does not mean poor...?) Also for my part, when I walk into a room in a show and am blown away by the sound I don't rush over to look

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread AnotherTribe
I have noticed that mids are less muddled and there is more air around individual instruments when I use a 10.0.0.0 IP address compared to a 192.168.0.0 IP addressing scheme. -- AnotherTribe AnotherTribe's Profile: http://

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Robin Bowes
seanadams wrote: > maxrob200;366628 Wrote: >> Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6 >> I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set >> a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have >> done it for the NAS > > Would a static IP make it sou

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 VBR - Squeezebox or Transporter

2008-12-05 Thread Themis
th00ht;366543 Wrote: > What about the magnitudes, Themis? > > http://stereos.about.com/od/faqs/f/thd.htm see Why it is important. > > I still concur to moonbase. Every doller spend more on good speakers is > a dollar spend well. I agree that choosing the right speakers (the ones you like the mo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread seanadams
maxrob200;366628 Wrote: > Ok, point taken. I will use standard Cat 5 or 6 > I intend to use SB with NAS only once files are uploaded. How do I set > a static IP for the SB. Is it in slimserver software or SSOTS? I have > done it for the NAS Would a static IP make it sound better? -- seanadams

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread bhaagensen
maxrob200;366685 Wrote: > I did read somewhere that the quality of the switch does effect overall > audio performance due to inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays. > As long as the music plays, i.e. your not getting breakups, pops, crackles etc. and the switch works for other purposes, t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Wombat
Inadequade transfer speeds are not to be expecteded at all until your switch is broken. It has to be fast enough to fill that little RAM in the Squeezebox. If it can´t handle that there must be something broken! And regarding audiophiles (i post there sometimes also) Don´t take everything as grant

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread jeffmeh
maxrob200;366685 Wrote: > Hi Robin > I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the > quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to > inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays. > This is incorrect. A (working) switch and a (working) direct-connectio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread maxrob200
Hi Robin I don't think that I am imagining it. I did read somewhere that the quality of the switch does effect overall audio performance due to inadequate transfer speeds or similar delays. I have listened to both combinations and there is definitely better audio playback when connected directly j

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox

2008-12-05 Thread Robin Bowes
maxrob200 wrote: > In the quest for better sound I have taken the advice of the > audiophiles in this forum and done the following More advice: be careful whose advice you take, especially "audiophiles'" > 2. Connecting the SB3 directly to the NAS rather than through a switch. > Noticeably bette