Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Popping sound from SB3 spdif out

2009-02-20 Thread Phil Leigh
maxrob200;398899 Wrote: > I will check that the SB3 and Behringer are both clocked at 44.1 and > retest. Both spdif and toslink show a locked signal on the Behringer. I > then run the internal upsampler to 88.2. Does slimserver have switches > for the sb3 output to be set at 44.1 or is it the def

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attention Audio Mythbusters!

2009-02-20 Thread CPC
Phil- You've reached legendary status, check out: http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=64267.msg593444;boardseen#new -- CPC CPC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12336 View this thr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Popping sound from SB3 spdif out

2009-02-20 Thread maxrob200
I will check that the SB3 and Behringer are both clocked at 44.1 and retest. Both spdif and toslink show a locked signal on the Behringer. I then run the internal upsampler to 88.2. Does slimserver have switches for the sb3 output to be set at 44.1 or is it the default? -- maxrob200 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attention Audio Mythbusters!

2009-02-20 Thread Phil Leigh
@Pat - thanks. I'm not discouraged. :) I agree that I don't really know what my DAC is doing - other than that sine waves and square waves look nice! The problem is I don't have a "control" DAC to compare with... When you say we need 24-bit... the soundcard I'm using to record is running at 24/96

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Preamp w. Remote Volume Control

2009-02-20 Thread GuyDebord
I have been using the Lyngdorf DPA-1 for less than 2 months and I am very, very, very happy with it, I am using it as my main DAC as I liked it better than the transporter and its ADC stage is impressive, my vinyl sounds as it should (24/192), would totally recommend it! and of course has many inp

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread darrenyeats
Not all blind testing is ABX. And not all ABX uses short snippets. Every listening method has problems. Some people are laughably lax when it comes to their sighted listening methodology and then turn suddenly into forensic lawyers when discussing blind methodology. AKA Cognitive Dissonance. Darr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread tomjtx
browellm;398752 Wrote: > It does make me laugh when people blithely accept ABX blind testing as > the _only_ way to critically evaluate audio components. > > In what sense is an ABX test anywhere near approaching the way we > listen to music for pleasure? Listening to 30 second snippets of music

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread browellm
tomjtx;398733 Wrote: > If you mean intellectually deaf I quite agree :-) > > IMO people are being intellectually dishonest with themselves if they > refuse to do a blind test. > > Did you compare the dacs blind ? It does make me laugh when people blithely accept ABX blind testing as the _only_

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread opaqueice
sebbe_sabb;397532 Wrote: > > Sound differences? > Clearly more bass, more PRAT and so on on the Linn. Call me biased > (since I own other Linn equipments) but the DS owns the Transporter > soundwise but the server solution & usability is much better on the > Transporter. The idea that the Linn

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attention Audio Mythbusters!

2009-02-20 Thread opaqueice
ar-t;398715 Wrote: > Phil: > > I hope that you don't think that I am trying to discourage you. As I > said, this test can be an interesting test. But we have talked about > this, and many of us feel until we get 24-bit resolution, it is not a > great deal of help. Even if it does, we still get b

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread tomjtx
Manelus;398693 Wrote: > It can be surprising how "differences" vanish when the listening is done > deaf :) If you mean intellectually deaf I quite agree :-) IMO people are being intellectually dishonest with themselves if they refuse to do a blind test. Did you compare the dacs blind ? --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] digital is digital OR NOT

2009-02-20 Thread ar-t
It is! I talked to the guy who headed up the AES working group on that. Of course, this was after they printed it in the JAES. I explained to him all the problems that I saw with it. I could sense his feeling was "Gee, why didn't we get someone like this guy to help us out. I had no idea about any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attention Audio Mythbusters!

2009-02-20 Thread ar-t
Phil: I hope that you don't think that I am trying to discourage you. As I said, this test can be an interesting test. But we have talked about this, and many of us feel until we get 24-bit resolution, it is not a great deal of help. Even if it does, we still get back to the same ol' problem we h

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread Manelus
tomjtx;398669 Wrote: > It can be surprising how "differences" vanish when the listening is done > blind. It can be surprising how "differences" vanish when the listening is done deaf :) -- Manelus Manelus's Profile: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread tomjtx
Manelus;398648 Wrote: > Magik is not better > Akurate is different, not better. > Klimax is better. > (Tested at home, all day long) I suspect in a DBT you would be unable to identify a difference in any of those products, let alone assign a SQ judgement. It can be surprising how "differences"

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attention Audio Mythbusters!

2009-02-20 Thread sleepysurf
Phil Leigh;398391 Wrote: > OK: 24/96 downsampled to 48/24 and to 44/16 - quite a large difference - > only -36dB down > > On the surface this seems to confirm the theory that 24-bit is worth > pursuing. > However, I'm suspicious of the downsampling capabilities of Foobar. > Maybe others could tr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS

2009-02-20 Thread Manelus
Magik is not better Akurate is different, not better. Klimax is better. (Tested at home, all day long) -- Manelus Manelus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8289 View this thread: http://forums.sli

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attention Audio Mythbusters!

2009-02-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Listener;398563 Wrote: > Phil, > > I'm sure you are learning things about what's relevant to you in the > context of your system. Of course, this sort of thing can spoil a pair > of golden ears. > > I'm enjoying reading this thread and hope you will continue to report > your findings. I don't