Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Your Transport Giving You All The Bits?

2009-07-23 Thread Phil Leigh
One comment: There was NO bit-depth truncation (prior to SOX) - 24 bits were always respected from file through SC-SB-DAC (although some external DACS would truncate!). The "DTS" test proves this. The introduction of SOX addressed high-quality downsampling, it didn't change the bit-depth handling

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Superiority of Toslink?

2009-07-23 Thread pablolie
be aware some people claim toslink has fundamental jitter issues. but my own experience echoes yours - my SB3 is much better using a toslink interface. into a good external DA: i use the Accuphase CD player i was used to all along as a DA. :-) -- pablolie ...pablo Server: 3.3 GHz Intel E8600 C

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread Mnyb
Another reason to actually record 24bit is that rumble clicks and pops from the vinyl can have magnitudes higher level than the music itself thus making digital clipping and such. Once you removed this you can probably go back to 16bit. Btw was it not so that cheap phono stages with insufficient

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread ctbarker32
Here's my method for LP transfer. It's worked very solidly for well over 200 successful LP transfers. -CB http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=378777&postcount=15 -- ctbarker32 ctbarker32's Profile: http://forums

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Your Transport Giving You All The Bits?

2009-07-23 Thread Grahame
Better yet, read this (and the related threads referenced) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65525 And you can enjoy all the bits you paid for (native 96/24) on your Transporter, or downsampled by sox, on the other clients. The topic of "is there a statistically significant, repeata

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Your Transport Giving You All The Bits?

2009-07-23 Thread egd
ctbarker32;442942 Wrote: > Maddeningly, while they mention they tested 8 players, they do not > identify them. Maybe they don't want to get sued?You've omitted a crucial > point - it seems have been forced to do this... "Cause and Effect Transports modify the high-resolution data in order to co

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Your Transport Giving You All The Bits?

2009-07-23 Thread ctbarker32
Is Your Transport Giving You All The Bits? is the title of a new whitepaper published by the folks at Benchmark: http://tinyurl.com/mznlrm This article should provide plenty of fodder for discussion. For instance: "Surprisingly, many DVD transports currently on the market fail to transmit the e

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread deutscherhififan
This little guy connected to a decent table may be all you need: http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?prod=phonoboxusb&cat=accessories&lang=en I think it works with PC only, though. -- deutscherhififan Primary: QNAP TS109II > BPT CPC > Modwright Platinum Signature 'Truth' Transporter with 6

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Superiority of Toslink?

2009-07-23 Thread mac
I am astonished by how much better my SB sounds when using a glass Toslink cable instead of a 75 ohm interconnect. Anyone else experienced this? If you have never tried Toslink with your SB I highly recommend you give it a try. -- mac Squeezebox 3 -> Entech Number Cruncher (modified) -> Musi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Versions?

2009-07-23 Thread Keymaster
Maybe when 192/24 becomes the norm...but I also see no reason to bring out a new unit yet...it still works brilliantly...and exceedingly well at that. There are very few things in my life that I treasure more... -- Keymaster -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Versions?

2009-07-23 Thread mswlogo
My Transporter would be the second to last to go if I had to sell stuff. My Merdian DSP-6000's would be the last to go :). -- mswlogo XP > Cat5 > Transporter/DuetController > SPDIF > Meridian G68 > DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP > Cat5 > SB3 > SPDIF > Meridian DSP5000 XP > Cat5 > DuetReceiver

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread krochat
cliveb;442768 Wrote: > Any particular reason why? The signal that comes off even the finest > quality LP pressed on heavyweight virgin vinyl has a dynamic range of no > more than 70dB, and that's on a good day with a following wind. This statement oversimplifies the situation. For some actual

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread Pat Farrell
cliveb wrote: > Good turntables are not cheap. You'll get better quality for your money [other great stuff elided] One more point, the conversion takes a long time. I used a very good turntable with a new cartridge (the rubber in the support mechanism tends to die because of ozone in the air, et

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread cliveb
morris_minor;442796 Wrote: > Two things strike me as being really important: use the best quality > source components you can afford Definitely. The best transfers start with good analogue playback. Stuff lost at this stage can't be recovered in software. Something else I'd add: clean the LP pro

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread Stratmangler
Stratmangler;442806 Wrote: > > I believe the EMU stuff will also work on Mac, but will not support > 24/192. > > I mean that it will support 24/192 on PC, but only 24/96 on Mac. Just thought I'd clarify the point. Chris :) -- Stratmangler --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread Stratmangler
The EMU USB devices work very well on PC. I use an EMU0202 myself - wish I'd bought the 0404 now as it does a bit more (S/PDIF in/out). I believe the EMU stuff will also work on Mac, but will not support 24/192. As Clive has said, avoid USB TT's - generally they are not good, either mechanically

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread morris_minor
I certainly can't compete with cliveb's excellent help page, but here's how I work (with a Mac). The output from my Michell Gyro SE/Tecnoarm/G1042/Graham Slee Era V Gold phono stage goes into a Sugden Headmaster (for headphone listening) and then out to the amp. The pre-out from the Headmaster co

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter to pre- or poweramp

2009-07-23 Thread Valentino
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64028 Question: T

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread ezkcdude
Thanks, clive! Ton of good comments to mull over. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiya

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] LP->Digital Conversion?

2009-07-23 Thread cliveb
ezkcdude;442755 Wrote: > I'd prefer to do 24/96. Any particular reason why? The signal that comes off even the finest quality LP pressed on heavyweight virgin vinyl has a dynamic range of no more than 70dB, and that's on a good day with a following wind. That equates to less than 12 bits of resol