Kuro;513490 Wrote:
> I doubt AudioDiffMaker is going to be able to measure certain attributes
> of sound, such as airiness or ambient.
Are you saying that "airiness" and "ambient" are attributes of sound
that are not present in the audio signals compared by Audio DiffMaker?
If not, then where ar
Kuro;513490 Wrote:
> I doubt AudioDiffMaker is going to be able to measure certain attributes
> of sound, such as airiness or ambient. The capacitor is just an
> example, you can think of it as why your speakers manufacturer put
> certain kinds of caps in your speakers' crossover. They were the
Kuro wrote:
> I'm (we're) your paying customers. You do not call your paying
> customers trolls.
Sean is retired. You are not his customer.
You are a troll.
Do not feed the trolls.
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pfarrell;513511 Wrote:
> I called you out as a troll on Feb 03 at 10:43.
> Specifically:
>
> "Please troll elsewhere. Nothing about TCP/IP can cause jitter in any
> SqueezeBox device. You have been told this, pay attention."
>
I've already put in another msg that was a mis-read / mis-understan
seanadams;513493 Wrote:
> I think we should start scoring the trolls.
BTW Sean, between me and my brother, we have 2 Duets, 1 Boom and 1
Transporter. I speak of the products to my friends so highly, and they
got 1 Duet and 1 Transporter.
I'm (we're) your paying customers. You do not call your
Kuro wrote:
> seanadams;513493 Wrote:
>> 2/10
>>
>> I think we should start scoring the trolls. This post lacks originality
>> - you were doing better earlier with the bath tub business.
>
> I beg to differ.
I called you out as a troll on Feb 03 at 10:43.
Specifically:
"Please troll elsewhere
seanadams;513493 Wrote:
> 2/10
>
> I think we should start scoring the trolls. This post lacks originality
> - you were doing better earlier with the bath tub business.
I beg to differ. I'm simply stating my real world experiences. Many
audiophiles and companies producing such products would
richardw;513447 Wrote:
> true. 1's and 0's are funny things. digital cables are a method to move
> them and can sound dramatically different moving identical bit perfect
> information. shouldn't but do.
That may be true for SPDIF or the like, but not when transmission of
the 0s and 1s is by an er
Kuro;513485 Wrote:
> Yes, I know about the psychological effect, and I've been very careful
> with my listening tests.
>
> FWIW, in my old system, I was not able to hear such differences because
> either the resolution is not high enough, or there is a higher noise
> floor. My current system of
Phil Leigh;513323 Wrote:
> It's really easy to prove that different capacitors in the audio path
> have an impact on the sound. AudioDiffMaker can prove that in seconds.
> Which you prefer is a matter of...preference.
I doubt AudioDiffMaker is going to be able to measure certain
attributes of so
cliveb;513271 Wrote:
> There is a huge body of scientific research which very nicely explains
> why you and your friends hear what you hear.
> But it's nothing to do with engineering - it is in the domain of
> psychology.
> You know something has changed, and think it might make a difference,
> s
Phil Leigh;513332 Wrote:
> I'm pretty certain that the 2.2X upsamples to 192... especially as it
> can output at that sampling rate.
>
> Anyway, I've gone back to not bothering with SOX to upsample everything
> as I can't hear any difference and even feeding 48 into the TACT does
> NOT involve s
Sadly, this is true.There are a number of re-badged items out there
costing hundreds or thousands more than their "native" counterparts and
offering little more to the purchaser than a glowing review, and peer
acceptance.
Sometimes we hear the name tag more than the music. I've done it too.
true. 1's and 0's are funny things. digital cables are a method to move
them and can sound dramatically different moving identical bit perfect
information. shouldn't but do. when my laptop reached the max and i
began this process (looking for storage etc) it started to sound
different. i moved all
richardw;513421 Wrote:
> i am guessing that no one thinks it is possible for the nas embedded
> player to just sound different than the pc player? or that processor's
> can impact sound of the player? i am not saying this is the case rather
> throwing them out as possibilities.
The thing is they
thanks for throwing out the experience john. i have double checked all
the settings and replay gain is not on for either player.
i am guessing that no one thinks it is possible for the nas embedded
player to just sound different than the pc player? or that processor's
can impact sound of the play
On the volume being different with flac I actually had this happen once.
The flac file contained replay gain tags and the wave did not. At that
time the default setting was replay gain on, so playing flac was softer
than playing wav. This went away when I turned replay gain off.
Ever since then
On 03/02/10 21:23, Phil Leigh wrote:
>
> Themis;513376 Wrote:
>> +1
>> Works with Laphroaig, too. ;)
>
> +1 Lagavulin
+1 Highland Park, the older the better.
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Themis;513376 Wrote:
> +1
> Works with Laphroaig, too. ;)
+1 Lagavulin
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Ron Olsen;513280 Wrote:
> Where is ABX testing when you need it??? Personally, I think the music
> on my system sounds better when I'm drinking a nice glass of Cabernet...
+1
Works with Laphroaig, too. ;)
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richardw;513343 Wrote:
> flac. i checked all the settings...all the same except of course the
> formats that are turned off in the nas but that is not an issue.
Please don't take this as an insult, but are you sure it was _all_ the
settings? Especially check the bitrate limiting, replay gain (und
richardw;513364 Wrote:
>
>
> i cannot run that stuff now as i need to be doing some other stuff. i
> have been messing with this all day, my wife is gonna kill me...again.
I know how that feels!
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what yo
i meant storage and distribution of the files. i guess you answered by
saying wired vs wireless which is the difference between the blackarmor
nas and the netgear as well as the netgear running sbs vs sbs in my pc
for the seagate. i think i am getting from yoou that it really does not
matter where
richardw;513357 Wrote:
> not sure how to do that stuff phil. i thought maybe it had to do with
> one being wired to the router vs the other having 2 wireless streams but
> that was a total guess to figure out the db difference. my wireless is
> super strong so no weakness there.
>
> off topic a
not sure how to do that stuff phil. i thought maybe it had to do with
one being wired to the router vs the other having 2 wireless streams but
that was a total guess to figure out the db difference. my wireless is
super strong so no weakness there.
off topic a bit...which setup would you recommen
richardw;513351 Wrote:
> yes
Hmmm...
Unless anyone else can chip in, what I'd do next is to enable logging
at the debug level for player.source and capture the server.log entries
from both servers (time consuming I know) and see if anything leaps
out!
I'm baffled by the volume change if replay
richardw;513347 Wrote:
> pain? i am grateful for the interest and support.
>
> 7.5 i believe. same in both.
OK. This is strange. You are testing with a 16/44.1 file?
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Version: 7.5.0 - r29961 nas
Version: 7.5.0 - r29966 my pc
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pain? i am grateful for the interest and support.
7.5 i believe. same in both.
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flac. i checked all the settings...all the same except of course the
formats that are turned off in the nas but that is not an issue.
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richardw;513343 Wrote:
> flac. i checked all the settings...all the same except of course the
> formats that are turned off in the nas but that is not an issue.
Sorry to be a pain - what version of SBS are you running?
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richardw;513338 Wrote:
> hard to articulate...one very apparent difference is there is much
> more/deeper bass with the netgear player but it is also muddier. images
> in the midrange are not quite as refined either but it is more that the
> whole presentation is more forward. it is hard to tell
hard to articulate...one very apparent difference is there is much
more/deeper bass with the netgear player but it is also muddier. images
in the midrange are not quite as refined either but it is more that the
whole presentation is more forward. it is hard to tell which is "right".
i think the p
richardw;513336 Wrote:
> yup
And how does the TP sound different?
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richardw;513329 Wrote:
> i expected that phil! i am very certain of this. my system is very
> resolving and i can hear when things sound different. this is why i am
> confused. the settings seem to be the same but maybe the players are
> different, dunno. i am crazy too.
Are you listening to you
Kuro;513113 Wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> TacT does resampling to 96K regardless of input. All internal DSP
> processing are done at 96K samples and 48-bit precision. It is actually
> worst to feed it 96K as the ASRC is not bypassable, so it'll resample
> 96K to 96K. Peter Lyngdorf has stated that re
i expected that phil! i am very certain of this. my system is very
resolving and i can hear when things sound different. this is why i am
confused. the settings seem to be the same but maybe the players are
different, dunno. i am crazy too.
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richardw;513314 Wrote:
> ok...some of you will think i am nuts but the readynas duo sounds
> different that the blackarmor nas110. what the heck? which is right? is
> this because one has an embedded player? is it because the netgear has a
> small processor and is struggling with the player vs my
Kuro;513140 Wrote:
> Ah, I thought you were saying the data is being "pulled" on demand out
> of the buffer. You actually meant it on the buffer receiving side.
>
> I don't mean to challenge you. I'm trying to understand these effects
> that me and others have heard, as they're not quite expla
ok...some of you will think i am nuts but the readynas duo sounds
different that the blackarmor nas110. what the heck? which is right? is
this because one has an embedded player? is it because the netgear has a
small processor and is struggling with the player vs my laptop? not sure
which one to k
On 03/02/10 17:45, Ron Olsen wrote:
>
> Where is ABX testing when you need it??? Personally, I think the music
> on my system sounds better when I'm drinking a nice glass of Cabernet...
Ugh, how utterly ridiculous.
*Everyone* knows that merlot makes things sound much better!
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Kuro;513140 Wrote:
> Just as some of us can hear the difference in sound for a certain
> brand/type capacitor in an audio circuit,
:rolleyes:
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Kuro;513140 Wrote:
> I'm trying to understand these effects that me and others have heard, as
> they're not quite explainable using conventional engineering means.
There is a huge body of scientific research which very nicely explains
why you and your friends hear what you hear.
But it's nothing
This topic mentions creating a wav file representing an impulse. Does
anyone know how to create such a sound file?
I would like to experiment a bit as well with comparing impulse
responses ;-)
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DaveWr;512921 Wrote:
> See page 5 of this post. the Transporter is a 4 bit DAC with
> sophisticated pre DAC up-sampling filters and dither algorithms
>
> These are the actual filter points that Meridian uses in its solution.
> Your approach is not the same.
>
> Dave
The data sheet of
Kuro wrote:
> Can you explain the meaning of "incoming data is "pulled" on demand"?
> Because this would imply you're doing it in packets and sudden movements
> in an electronic circuit can produce jitter.
Please troll elsewhere. Nothing about TCP/IP can cause jitter in any
SqueezeBox device. You
seanadams;513117 Wrote:
> It's called "TCP". Now, do you have testable claims or do you expect me
> to address your hand-waving on the subject?
Ah, I thought you were saying the data is being "pulled" on demand out
of the buffer. You actually meant it on the buffer receiving side.
I don't mean
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