altsouza;580267 Wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I am thinking to try the DEQ2496 with my Sonos, to compare against the
> SB3/Inguz Combo.
> Michael, what do you think is the better option? Do you use the
> DEQ2496 between your transport and DAC using Optical in/out??
>
> Thanks
>
> Antonio
I use AE
Is not the old DAC a more likely culprit, it is old things drift when
aging ?
Maybe Thetas service dept has something to say ?
Btw is your transporter brand new or used ? no mods done to it ?
Open box what is that ?
There are some "clever" mods around (probably most of them) that
cripples the squ
Hey dennis55, nice avatar :) I wanted to compare the analog out to my
DAC as well, but a quick n dirty comparison isn't looking good for the
transporter so far, although I haven't tricked it out with cables or
anything.
Sean, thanks for the suggestion, the loopback idea is perfect. I'll
also try
ralphpnj;580282 Wrote:
> I replaced my SBR with a Touch several months ago and I have never
> regretted this move. I find that the Touch has a clearer sound and is
> not as bass heavy as the Receiver. Since you are using an external DAC
> (the Cambridge Audio DacMagic) I would say that the improv
rgro;580280 Wrote:
> Phil or whomever also wishes to chime in:
>
> As someone whose opinion here I highly value, I'm thinking of possibly
> replacing my SBR with a Touch, but leaving everything else the same.
> I'm happy with what I have but would upgrade to the Touch if there was
> the chance
Phil Leigh;579839 Wrote:
> Rather have a Touch+DAC, personally. YMMV of course.
Phil or whomever also wishes to chime in:
As someone whose opinion here I highly value, I'm thinking of possibly
replacing my SBR with a Touch, but leaving everything else the same.
I'm happy with what I have but w
Have you tried a different coax cable? A lot of these boutique "digital"
cables are made for form over function. Try a plain old RCA video cable.
Also, try both the RCA and BNC outputs.
I have similar concerns about the DAC. So this is an older unit that
was later converted somehow to support 24/
Hi Michael,
I am thinking to try the DEQ2496 with my Sonos, to compare against the
SB3/Inguz Combo.
Michael, what do you think is the better option? Do you use the
DEQ2496 between your transport and DAC using Optical in/out??
Thanks
Antonio
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altsouza
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michael123;580200 Wrote:
>
> 4) Why do you think Teddy Pardo sells thousands of power supplies for
> Touch?
Only an idiot would pay $400 for a power supply for a $300 component
especially when it has no affect on the audio output of said component
whatsoever. More over even if it did, again onl
I would certainly agree that a touch + excellent DAC can be comparable
to the Transporter.
However, at least in the US a smart shopper can find a used or even
close out TP for as little as 900.00. That is a bargain that would be
hard to match with Touch+DAC.
I've heard the Perfect Wave DAC and i
michael123;580200 Wrote:
> 1)
>
> 2) You cannot get reference digital signal out of Touch as-is. It is
> completely different device (read again what I wrote above, digital
> path, power supply, noise suppression circuits), and it was not built
> for audiophiles anyway..
>
> 4) Why do you thin
badlyread;580030 Wrote:
> Still available in the UK at £999 with the discount code mentioned in a
> previous post. If you are not in the UK get someone to get one and ship
> it out to you. Not too difficult.l
A grand??? Logitech is still selling
the Transporter
michael123;580200 Wrote:
> 1) I did compare. PS Audio PerfectWave DAC, Weiss DAC202 and EMM Labs
> XDS1. Although I have slightly modded output stage, my Transporter is
> on par of these
Since I both a Transporter and a Touch I'm quite pleased to read (I
didn't want to write "hear" since I haven
Stereoeditor;580201 Wrote:
> However, you still come across pathological designs that fail to
> reproduce this signal properly - see, for example, fig.8 in the Cary
> review in the September 2010 issue of Stereophile.
You can find this graph at
http://stereophile.com/hirezplayers/cary_audio_desi
Phil Leigh;578558 Wrote:
> A -90dB sine wave is just "not there" in normal music. I'd like to hear
> JA's justification of why he thinks this is meaningful?
Just saw this question. If you are talking about the undithered tone at
-90.31dBFS I show in all my DAC measurements, I use this signal, no
ralphpnj;580155 Wrote:
> Oh yes there is:
>
> Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
> the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
> digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA or balanced
> analog outputs.
>
> Comparing a
Of course, if you ever lived under Concorde's take-off flight path
you're probably quite happy it's no more. I have to assume the sound of
a Transporter is much more pleasant!
Steve.
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SteveEast
Home: 3*SB3 (1 dead), 1*Touch, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.5.1 on Acer
Aspire easyStore H340 WHS.
C
Ah - Concorde...Also sadly no longer available. A crying shame, but what
can be done?
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
Triplethreat(Audiocom ful
On 01/10/10 18:14, dennis55 wrote:
>
> "a triumph of engineering and design that was ahead of it's time"
>
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The basic facts are that a Touch plus a GOOD DAC can outperform a
standalone TP.
The TP is a great unit, a triumph of engineering and design that was
ahead of it's time.
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wir
Petterone;580158 Wrote:
> ""Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
> the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
> digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA or balanced
> analog outputs.""
>
> depends on the dac you use w
""Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA or balanced
analog outputs.""
depends on the dac you use with the Touch ,the standard ones isen
michael123;580114 Wrote:
> ...There is nothing to compare between these two...
Oh yes there is:
Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA
jfeldt,what's wrong with your Transporter's internal DAC?. ;)
--
dennis55
Slim Devices/Logitech Transporter
Bonnec Audiosysteme Timpano
Linn Products Akurate C4200
Totem Acoustics Forest
SqueezeBox Radio
Duet Controller
SqueezeBoxserver on SheevaPlug
SqueezeCommander on HTC Hero
Linn LP12/C
+1 :)
michael123;580114 Wrote:
> just take two boxes - transporter and touch - and open them side by
> side.
> There are no miracles.. Two good toroidal power supplies, separate
> wiring for the front panel, jung regulators, transformer-coupled
> outputs, high quality akm dac, fully balanced d
On 01/10/10 13:34, michael123 wrote:
>
> empty99;579995 Wrote:
>> To me High End may not be HI FI, which is High Fidelity. High End can
>> sometimes be Anything You Wanted with lots of money ;^)
>
> Just take two boxes - Transporter and Touch - and open them side by
> side.
> There are no miracl
empty99;579995 Wrote:
> To me High End may not be HI FI, which is High Fidelity. High End can
> sometimes be Anything You Wanted with lots of money ;^)
Just take two boxes - Transporter and Touch - and open them side by
side.
There are no miracles.. Two good toroidal power supplies, separate
wir
ralphpnj;580009 Wrote:
> As usual I once again find myself in complete agreement with Phil. The
> Touch is pretty much the equal of the Transporter when used with a high
> quality external DAC. For the price of a Transporter, one can chose
> among several very good DACs and still have money to bu
I don't want to have to start going down the route of buying extra
cables / equipment to get something working that should work straight
out of the box. I have had the CA power amp for around 3 years and it
has performed really well. I am using the same input for the TP that
the SB Classic was o
Mnyb;580054 Wrote:
> But can you reduce the price with the seller and maybe get it repaired
> ?
> Contact logitech to see if they take it in for a repair first ?
>
> If you really want one .
>
> Otherwise get a Touch and a DAC of your own choice, then you can have
> 24/96 support and even more
Weird that both people have problems with cambridge ?
test it on something else ?
--
Mnyb
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 and assorted amps
SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contou
Phil Leigh;580052 Wrote:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=425904&postcount=1
>
> Does this sound similar?
Thanks for this link Phil. Yes, this is exactly what happens although
on mine the quality is much worse than that guy experiences. The only
time it sounds remotely normal is
cwetton;580053 Wrote:
> The guy that I bought it from said that he had only used it with the
> balanced XLR outputs and that he had had no problems. Of course, he
> might be being less than generous with the truth. I will see if anyone
> else has any ideas of the weekend and if not, it will hav
cwetton;580053 Wrote:
> The guy that I bought it from said that he had only used it with the
> balanced XLR outputs and that he had had no problems. Of course, he
> might be being less than generous with the truth. I will see if anyone
> else has any ideas of the weekend and if not, it will hav
Phil Leigh;580049 Wrote:
> Hmmm. Baffling.
> Odd that it affects both channels. Could be an internal power supply
> problem to the final output stage I suppose.
The guy that I bought it from said that he had only used it with the
balanced XLR outputs and that he had had no problems. Of course,
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=425904&postcount=1
Does this sound similar?
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
Triplethreat(Audiocom
cwetton;580040 Wrote:
> Not only that, I changed them to 10, 20 and 30 just to make sure. They
> are now back at 0.
Hmmm. Baffling.
Odd that it affects both channels. Could be an internal power supply
problem to the final output stage I suppose.
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path
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