Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread aubuti
magiccarpetride;625428 Wrote: > Maybe it is an urban myth, but I swear that I saw with my own eyes a > bumblebee who could fly. Of course they fly. And of course their flight is consistent with aerodynamics/engineering principles and equations. The myth is the part about the engineers producing a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] S/PDIF cables should be (a) - >=1.5m or (b) as short as possible?

2011-04-14 Thread Kuro
The reason for the >=1.5m length has to do with controlling signal reflection due to impedance discontinuity on the receiving end. For example, my TacT 2.2xp has poor internal construction in terms of impedance control. A 1.5m cable sounded significantly better than a 1m cable from my Transporte

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-14 Thread earwaxer9
thanks -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread Gazjam
magiccarpetride;625427 Wrote: > I raise my hand. To be perfectly honest, at first I thought that > Soundcheck is just some nerdy geek with a huge techo-hardon who needs > to go out more often and get a life and stop obsessing over > excruciating minutia regarding the already great sounding Touch.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-14 Thread Wombat
earwaxer9;625432 Wrote: > Isnt dither something you only want to do if you are downsampling? Some > clarification would be appreciated. I have noticed the dither option. I > have not chosen it. Since you have the internal precision of the resampler that is higher as the 24bit signal you have in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-14 Thread earwaxer9
Wombat;625350 Wrote: > Pay attention to dither here. The sox plugin doesn´t dither by itself. > Isnt dither something you only want to do if you are downsampling? Some clarification would be appreciated. I have noticed the dither option. I have not chosen it. -- earwaxer9 System: modified W

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread magiccarpetride
snottmonster;625405 Wrote: > That'll be why it's an urban myth then. Maybe it is an urban myth, but I swear that I saw with my own eyes a bumblebee who could fly. -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://foru

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread magiccarpetride
Gazjam;625418 Wrote: > fess up though... > > how many of you cynics have done the mods? > (or at least tried and thought you heard a difference (Not necessarily > a big improvement...but "something"?) > > just sayin' :) I raise my hand. To be perfectly honest, at first I thought that Soundchec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread garym
Gazjam;625418 Wrote: > fess up though... > > how many of you cynics have done the mods? > (or at least tried and thought you heard a difference (Not necessarily > a big improvement...but "something"?) > > just sayin' :) I didn't do the mods but still thought I heard an amazing difference. Even

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread Gazjam
fess up though... how many of you cynics have done the mods? (or at least tried and thought you heard a difference (Not necessarily a big improvement...but "something"?) just sayin' :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread Eriko
jeza;625404 Wrote: > the most important thing is to make sure all your digital cables are > level, because 0's are heavier than 1's and if the cables are allowed > to run downhill, the 0's will actually overtake the 1's after about 1m > or so. This is the real reason that optical sounds so differ

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread snottmonster
magiccarpetride;625393 Wrote: > Urban myth has it that engineers can produce an unassailable proof that > bumblebees cannot possibly fly. And yet they somehow do... That'll be why it's an urban myth then. -- snottmonster

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread JezA
The most important thing is to make sure all your digital cables are level, because 0's are heavier than 1's and if the cables are allowed to run downhill, the 0's will actually overtake the 1's after about 1m or so. This is the real reason that optical sounds so different from co-ax s/pdif - opti

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread magiccarpetride
snottmonster;625364 Wrote: > This all makes the assumption that the processor is handling low level > WLAN communication such as encryption/decryption. > > It doesn't... > > I'll go out on a limb and suggest such an explanation only demonstrates > a lack of engineering understanding on whoever

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread snottmonster
Phil Leigh;625383 Wrote: > yes - you have missed 55 pages so far! :-) Shhh - don't tell anyone, but I think I skipped pages 2 to 54... -- snottmonster snottmonster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?useri

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread Phil Leigh
snottmonster;625382 Wrote: > Ummm... I'm obviously late to the party on this one yes - you have missed 55 pages so far! :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread snottmonster
Phil Leigh;625380 Wrote: > ... and it won't be the last. Ummm... Obviously late to the party on this one -- snottmonster snottmonster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45063 View this thread: http

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread Phil Leigh
paulster;625369 Wrote: > It wouldn't be the first time in this thread... ... and it won't be the last. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread paulster
snottmonster;625364 Wrote: > I'll go out on a limb and suggest such an explanation only demonstrates > a lack of engineering understanding on whoever suggested the idea in > the first place. It wouldn't be the first time in this thread... -- paulster Web Interface sending music to the wrong p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread johann
jeza;625360 Wrote: > but then again if the processor has less work to do it's idle loop may > generate rf at a higher but more stable frequency which could interact > malevolently with some of the 1's or even hurt the feeling of a few 0's > as opposed to the more generally random noise that perme

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread snottmonster
This all makes the assumption that the processor is handling low level WLAN communication such as encryption/decryption. It doesn't... Which is why such an explanation only demonstrates a lack of engineering understanding on whoever suggested idea in the first place. -- snottmonster -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread JezA
But then again if the processor has less work to do it's idle loop may generate rf at a higher but more stable frequency which could interact malevolently with some of the 1's or even hurt the feeling of a few 0's as opposed to the more generally random noise that permeates the ionosphere when the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dali Speakers

2011-04-14 Thread tank121
I'll still torn about these two speakers from Dali. I can get the IKon 2 on the wall model for £549.00 and the Menuet for £749 The main advantage i can see for the Menuet is that it can be shelf mounted too. (if we ever move). Below are the specs Menuet on the left. Your views please Frequency

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-14 Thread Wombat
earwaxer9;625338 Wrote: > I have switched to soX using foobar. It seems to be better, and it tests > a bit better. Pay attention to dither here. The sox plugin doesn´t dither by itself. earwaxer9;625338 Wrote: > From the limited feedback I have gotten so far, it appears there is some > agreemen

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread adamdea
Joking aside, I was under the impresion that one of the explaantions profeered for the claimed inferioruity of wireless (as opposed to wired ehternet) was that the decryptiomn put a strain on the processor. I wonder whether it is in fact possible to turn of encryption for messages between SBS and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread snottmonster
JezA;625323 Wrote: > Does WEP wireless encryption sound better or worse than WPA2? What is > the best sounding encryption key you have tried? I like WEP with an > encryption key of bbcc33221c the most, but I haven't tried all > possibilities yet. Sometimes there is more space between the silences

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-14 Thread earwaxer9
Wombat;625288 Wrote: > When you look into it and read about the delta-sigma design our > Transporter uses you´ll notice it has the advantage to already only > need pretty gentle filters. Maybe this is why Sean Adams didn´t take > the slow roll-off in from the beginning. > Afterwards you may think

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread garym
jeza;625323 Wrote: > does wep wireless encryption sound better or worse than wpa2? What is > the best sounding encryption key you have tried? I like wep with an > encryption key of bbcc33221c the most, but i haven't tried all > possibilities yet. Sometimes there is more space between the silences

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread JezA
Does WEP wireless encryption sound better or worse than WPA2? What is the best sounding encryption key you have tried? I like WEP with an encryption key of bbcc33221c the most, but I haven't tried all possibilities yet. Sometimes there is more space between the silences with bbcc33222d but at the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-14 Thread Squeezed_Rotel
Thanks again Phil. -- Squeezed_Rotel John Marshall SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 running on a DIY PC, Windows 7 64 bit o.s., with Inguz Audio EQ/DRC. (1) Transporter, & (4) Booms connected through a Linksys WRT54gs router and Linksys WAP54g access point. Using an iPad with both SqueezePad & iPeng for co

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-14 Thread adamdea
so 3600 is miles better than 4000, but worse than 12897 or whatever? -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=8474

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-14 Thread Wombat
earwaxer9;625250 Wrote: > Where do I find the data sheet? When you look into it and read about the delta-sigma design our Transporter uses you´ll notice it has the advantage to already only need pretty gentle filters. Maybe this is why Sean Adams didn´t take the slow roll-off in from the beginni

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-14 Thread michael123
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4396/ak4396.html -- michael123 Please fix http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16814 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View th