Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread garym
ralphpnj wrote: > Now, now Gary we mustn't talk politics, however I do agree with you. By > the way the anti-science crowd maybe ruining more than the US since that > same anti-science crowd are also the climate change deniers. > ;-) My lips are sealed about politics (I only have time to deba

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
garym wrote: > I very much agree with you on this. Anti-science beliefs are slowly > ruining us over here in the US. Now, now Gary we mustn't talk politics, however I do agree with you. By the way the anti-science crowd maybe ruining more than the US since that same anti-science crowd are also t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: > Where I get such a cable? Silver, moonlight and virgins beating by hand > - I bet it sounds GREAT! :) :) Hmm , I'll take pre orders at 80k$ at piece , do you use tri wring for your speakers ? ,( I only need to sell 10-20 of them then i can discreetly unregister my company and k

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: > > So I see the audiophile cult just as a niche in a larger problem , that > is the general belief in pseudo-sciences and other such stuff , > especially privately knowing people nearly absorbed by cults or pyramid > home sales schemes etc. > > But as I see it, audiophile beliefs a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: > it does not have to be hand beaten silver done in the moonlight by > Peruvian virgins... Where I get such a cable? Silver, moonlight and virgins beating by hand - I bet it sounds GREAT! :) :) ralphpnj's Prof

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread Mnyb
bhaagensen wrote: > Ralph (and other critics:)) > > Mnyb. I undesrstand you used to shall out big bucks in cables and such. > Why have you now changed your opinion. Where your experiences not valid > back then. Or...? > > .. I don't know really ,just a gradual awakening I think powered by var

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: > Yes spdiff is obselete imho it's replaced by hdmi on normal consumer > audio . Agreed plus along the same line of thinking two channel audio (aka stereo) is also obsolete since now most people listen to music on their multichannel home theater systems. Again I agree that asynchron

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread garym
bhaagensen wrote: > thanks garym. My next question is then wether you've further considered > the strengths/weaknesses of the methodology. Any thoughts - theoretical, > statistical, probabilistic, domain specifics, or just intuitive thoughts > on the matter? Hmmm, that's a question that requires

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: > You're right not everyone agrees with me but if you discount the clowns > who write for the high end rags (and they are clowns because clowns make > you laugh and their writing is such a joke that it often makes me laugh) > then you will find that few people who know what they a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread Mnyb
bhaagensen wrote: > Thanks for the link - I didnt yet read it though. > > But you are misunderstanding my point. Which is that usb is a better > interface by purely technical metrics and probably as cheap as spdif, > and more widespread in computing, so that alone is reason to make the > change

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread Mnyb
bhaagensen wrote: > At some point you have to acknowledge that not everyone agrees with you > in this - its a premise of this entire discussion - like it or not. > > Anyway. The point is that USB is a better protocol and using it avoids > the hoops one has to go through to achieve something sim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread bhaagensen
You can find bs, "lies", and nonsense in anything from your average hghfi-mag to published peer-reviewed sciemtific papers. You cant disregard an entire field just on account of "some" black sheeps. My experience i (digital) high-fi is the same. Some talk just to avoid falling in sleep, some jus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread bhaagensen
Thanks for the link - I didnt yet read it though. But you are misunderstanding my point. Which is that usb is a better interface by purely technical metrics and probably as cheap as spdif, and more widespread in computing, so that alone is reason to make the change. Spdif is for all but historic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
bhaagensen wrote: > At some point you have to acknowledge that not everyone agrees with you > in this - its a premise of this entire discussion - like it or not. > > Anyway. The point is that USB is a better protocol and using it avoids > the hoops one has to go through to achieve something sim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
bhaagensen wrote: > Ralph (and other critics:)) > > I think by now your stand as audiophiles is quite clear. I would like to > ask though, if you could please describe some of the listening sessions > you've had that has made you come to these strong conclusions. > Equipment, setups, etc. > >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread bhaagensen
thanks garym. My next question is then wether you've further considered the strengths/weaknesses of the methodology. Any thoughts - theoretical, statistical, probabilistic, domain specifics, or just intuitive thoughts on the matter? ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread bhaagensen
ralphpnj wrote: > NO ONE regardless of playback system can ever hear the interface induced > jitter in S/PDIF. But hey, there are plenty of high priced digital audio > cables, by they optical, coax or USB, that promise to clean up jitter. At some point you have to acknowledge that not everyone a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread garym
bhaagensen wrote: > Ralph (and other critics:)) > > I think by now your stand as audiophiles is quite clear. I would like to > ask though, if you could please describe some of the listening sessions > you've had that has made you come to these strong conclusions. > Equipment, setups, etc. > >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-09 Thread bhaagensen
Ralph (and other critics:)) I think by now your stand as audiophiles is quite clear. I would like to ask though, if you could please describe some of the listening sessions you've had that has made you come to these strong conclusions. Equipment, setups, etc. Mnyb. I undesrstand you used to sha

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
bhaagensen wrote: > Ralph, Im again not getting you - how do you reach your conclusions > regarding USB replacing spdif? To me it reads like argument-by-magic, to > stay with the terminology of recent threads. > > As far as I know its simply a matter of a sum of factors deciding which > interfa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread bhaagensen
Ralph, Im again not getting you - how do you reach your conclusions regarding USB replacing spdif? To me it reads like argument-by-magic, to stay with the terminology of recent threads. As far as I know its simply a matter of a sum of factors deciding which interface shall prevale. Its a datatra

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0.Radiostation trouble

2012-12-09 Thread aubuti
I think post #6 in the link I gave pretty much sums it up. As far as I know it's only an issue with low sample rate material. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://f

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter for sale

2012-12-09 Thread dennis55
hi folks,well i went and done itbought a Linn Akurate DS streamer so far so good,i am enjoying the new DS, but struggling a wee bit on the software side of things SqweezyDS helps but it's no SqueezeServer :) my Black Original Transporter is up for sale (unmarked and original

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Audio settings into Perreaux DP32 Pre-Amp

2012-12-09 Thread garym
Tim-Ann wrote: > Ah I'm not getting it wrong thus far, should effects Loop input be > disabled and Effects Loop Clock Mode be Transporter should be he master > or External Source should be the master and finally Word Clock on S/PDIF > should it be disabled and thus source is the master or should

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0.Radiostation trouble

2012-12-09 Thread kinku
Thank you. Is it only for low sample rate/quality stations or is it for higher quality stations too.Any fixes?other than using original firmware. I like the mods and it has improved the audio quality alot. kinku's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Audio settings into Perreaux DP32 Pre-Amp

2012-12-09 Thread Tim-Ann
Ah I'm not getting it wrong thus far, should effects Loop input be disabled and Effects Loop Clock Mode be Transporter should be he master or External Source should be the master and finally Word Clock on S/PDIF should it be disabled and thus source is the master or should the Transporter is the m

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Audio settings into Perreaux DP32 Pre-Amp

2012-12-09 Thread garym
Tim-Ann wrote: > Hi tere, > > I'm using the digital output, S/PDIF Digital Output using a digital > coaxial cable as that is supposed to be the best output on the > Transporter plus it doesn't then use the Transporters onboard DAC > instead it is using the DP32's DAC. Or that's what I was told

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Audio settings into Perreaux DP32 Pre-Amp

2012-12-09 Thread Tim-Ann
Hi tere, I'm using the digital output, S/PDIF Digital Output using a digital coaxial cable as that is supposed to be the best output on the Transporter plus it doesn't then use the Transporters onboard DAC instead it is using the DP32's DAC. Or that's what I was told hope I've not got it wrong o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0.Radiostation trouble

2012-12-09 Thread aubuti
This is a well-known issue. The problem lies with the combination of TT3.0 and transmissions of some internet radio stations. For example of past discussions, see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95144-Radio-Apps-Sound-Like-Chipmunks --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Audio settings into Perreaux DP32 Pre-Amp

2012-12-09 Thread garym
Tim-Ann wrote: > Hi there, > > I've been playing around with my Mac's into my DP32 pre-amp and got to > thinking I might not be getting the best out of my Transporter so I went > into LMS settings looked at all the Audio settings for the Transporter > and thought, I've no idea what these setting

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
michael123 wrote: > Which part are you referring to? Here's the sentence: "The replacement of the S/PDIF interface by USB as the de facto standard for transmitting digital audio has been surprisingly rapid." I am referring to all parts of the sentence. For example, are professional recording s

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0.Radiostation trouble

2012-12-09 Thread kinku
I have installed TT3 on my touch and extremely satisfied with the results. My setup Squeezeserver runing on Windows Homeserver2011 on LX195 hardware and SBtouch with TT3 mods with buffer size currently at 3500u.Also SB is connected to Edimax range extender with a Lan Cable with wifi turned off in

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Audio settings into Perreaux DP32 Pre-Amp

2012-12-09 Thread Tim-Ann
Hi there, I've been playing around with my Mac's into my DP32 pre-amp and got to thinking I might not be getting the best out of my Transporter so I went into LMS settings looked at all the Audio settings for the Transporter and thought, I've no idea what these settings do or if they are correct.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is why I call them clowns

2012-12-09 Thread michael123
ralphpnj wrote: > The first sentence is total nonsense Which part are you referring to? michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthrea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tweak: Wood Block Refiners

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
Here we see at work the Fourth Law of High End Audio: Tweaks do not have to any basis in reality. Corollary: The less reality based a tweak is, the better. Applying several of the Laws of High End Audio to tweaks we get: Tweak with no basis in science or reality: good Example: wood blocks made

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Gold Standard in Audio

2012-12-09 Thread ralphpnj
Which brings us to The Third Law of High End Audio: When in doubt, throw money! ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=9750