Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-03 Thread Mnyb
The logical endpiont is digital active speakers (actually has been since the early 90's but audiophiles are to darned conservative ) . :) but sadly still to few brands and price classes to make viable options for everyone :/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-03 Thread Daverz
I really like the idea of getting rid of the pre-amp and DAC, but there are a couple issues for me: * My Vandersteen Quatros require a 6 dB/octave high-pass filter between the pre-amp and amp. I can do the filter with sox, but I'd prefer to send a bit-perfect signal to the digital amp. * I like

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio-dg (AGD) DAC + SBT + EDO

2013-09-03 Thread The Fez
Hi Guys -- Had a SBT for years now. Really nice product. Just wondering if anyone else has a Audio-gd DAC connected via USB. I have the EDO installed, but the SBT doesn't recognise the DAC without a USB hub? I was of the impression the AGD DAC'S can connect direct to the Touch. I'm using the USB c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread ralphpnj
Jeff52 wrote: > I can't speak for you guys, but I suspect I would be hard-pressed to > identify in a blind test any difference between a standard interconnect, > such as those sold by Blue Jeans, and any of the so-called premium > cables. Hence there is NEVER any kind of blind testing being done

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread Jeff52
I can't speak for you guys, but I suspect I would be hard-pressed to identify in a blind test any difference between a standard interconnect, such as those sold by Blue Jeans, and any of the so-called premium cables. Jeff52

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread garym
Jeff52 wrote: > I can't speak for you guys, but I suspect I would be hard-pressed to > identify in a blind test any difference between a standard interconnect, > such as those sold by Blue Jeans, and any of the so-called premium > cables. Same for me. But heck, my "premium" interconnects *are* t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread ralphpnj
garym wrote: > Agree! And I like the fact that Hoffman notes that different could be > worse sound, even with more expensive cables. Probably a high > correlation between price and lack of sane design. On a similar note years ago (at least 10 to 15 years) I was having my Aragon power amp update

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: > Agree! And I like the fact that Hoffman notes that different could be > worse sound, even with more expensive cables. Probably a high > correlation between price and lack of sane design. yeah how else to make it "different" much like NOS dac's with no or unorthodox filter design

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: > Albeit a small one for speaker wires thats goes away when the cross > section is large enough esential parameters are R,L put it does not take > 1000$ to accomplishi that ! > > Signal cables not so much if the design is "sane" C,L are esential and > the runs aare very short in home

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: > I suspect he wasn't talking about USB or ethernet cables in this > discussion. For *analog* distribution (e.g., speaker wires), cable > *can* make a difference. Albeit a small one for speaker wires thats goes away when the cross section is large enough esential parameters are R,L

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread ralphpnj
garym wrote: > I suspect he wasn't talking about USB or ethernet cables in this > discussion. For *analog* distribution (e.g., speaker wires), cable > *can* make a difference. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veri

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread garym
Jeff52 wrote: > But, but, the great Steve Hoffman says cables do make a difference: > > -Of course they make a difference. It's up to YOU to carefully (and I do > mean CAREFULLY) determine if the difference is good for your system or > not. Don't be fooled or swayed by a sudden top end burst of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shilling for Dollars

2013-09-03 Thread Jeff52
ralphpnj wrote: > There's a big difference between letting "people live out their > idiosyncrasies" and a reviewer stating an outright lie (saying that two > properly functioning USB cables sound different is a lie). I don't care > that people are willing to spend lots of money trying to improve