Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Mnyb
Daverz wrote: > My hi-rez collection is still pretty small. I'll see if I can find > something that's a good demo. Ditto that's symptomatic for the whole venture , I do have close to 255 albums a large portion AIX + some more . I'll see if I can do a better pick in that pile , I did use acoust

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Daverz
Recoveryone wrote: > Stevie Wonder, Songs in the key of Life, from HDTracks I knew I had this somewhere in infinite res*, but I really had to dig. Finally found it in a box at the bottom of a stack. Lps look like hell but sound very good. *That's a joke, digital kids. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's "Morning Phase"...

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: > Oi. Don't you dare forget COOKIE. Never forget COOKIE. > > ;) mea culpa! Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veri

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's "Morning Phase"...

2014-03-03 Thread Archimago
ralphpnj wrote: > I believe that you almost have it but there are still two things > missing: > > First you must copy the PCM files onto a Mac Mini then you must run it > through a *TUBE* DAC with asynchronous USB, then ANALOGUE TAPE, then > ANALOGUE CONSOLE, then a Meitner DSD ADC and then back

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
Other high resolution releases worth checking out are "Workingman's Dead" and "American Beauty" by The Grateful Dead. What makes these two releases interesting is that they both available in two distinctly different remasterings. I'm not sure which remaster is which but one remaster features the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's "Morning Phase"...

2014-03-03 Thread Daverz
Thought he was better with the Yardbirds anyway. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101068 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Recoveryone
Stevie Wonder, Songs in the key of Life, from HDTracks Slim Device Transporter wirelessly connected 2nd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (MasterBedroom) 3rd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (bedroom) 4th Squeezebox Duet wirelessly connected (bedroom) 5th Squeezebox Touch Wirelessly connec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's "Morning Phase"...

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: > Nice one... Alas, that's not good enough. > > You must run it through a *TUBE* DAC, then ANALOGUE TAPE, then ANALOGUE > CONSOLE, then a Meitner DSD ADC. Furthermore, you must ensure that this > is all Cardas / Nordost cabling. The process must further be supervised > by Cookie

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
JohnSwenson wrote: > but it was difficult to distinguish due to the vibrationally induced > tracking noise. > > John S. Thank you John. I left the last line of your post because it clearly shows why streaming audio has a few advantages over silver disc based playback. Living Rm: Transporte

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-03-03 Thread JohnSwenson
ralphpnj wrote: > Nor did Mr. Swenson give any numbers or measurements regarding the types > of errors these green markers are supposed to correct. His response was > all very nicely written and with a seemingly clear logical and > scientific foundation but all beyond the prose and everything qui

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's "Morning Phase"...

2014-03-03 Thread Archimago
ralphpnj wrote: > There is one simple fix for HDTracks to resolve this whole mess: > > HDTracks should just convert the 24/96 PCM tracks to DSD! > > Once everything is convert to DSD is it, by default, Audiophile quality > - regardless of what any stupid graphs might show :) Nice one... Alas,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Daverz
Mnyb wrote: > > > What I meant with modern recordings is that the older stuff may not have > any or any significant information that could not fit within 16/44.1 > thus making a hirez vs reedbook comparison a bit futile . Which was the > subject of this tread ? My hi-rez collection is still pr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Mnyb
Daverz wrote: > Well, nearly anything on Lyrita. Ken Wilkinson was the engineer on many > of these. I use Moeran's -Sinfonietta- for auditioning gear. Boult's > Bax disc is also very good. These are analog recordings, so they are up > to technical standards of modern recordings, but it's the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Daverz
Mnyb wrote: > ;) ok -difference- in said spatial cues under real conditions. > > Btw do sugest more specific test tracks . Well, nearly anything on Lyrita. Ken Wilkinson was the engineer on many of these. I use Moeran's -Sinfonietta- for auditioning gear. Boult's Bax disc is also very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Mnyb
Daverz wrote: > People with decent speakers. ;) > > You also need some good recordings of acoustic music. ;) ok -difference- in said spatial cues under real conditions. Btw do sugest more specici test tracks . Main hi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread Daverz
Mnyb wrote: > > As for spatial cues ? who knows , > People with decent speakers. ;) You also need some good recordings of acoustic music. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
satkinsn wrote: > Yeah, I agree the huge disadvantage of aac and mp3 is the fact that > you're stuck with what you're stuck with, and transcoding is a no-no. > OTOH, I'm trying hard to spend more time enjoying what I have and less > planning a future of listening that may never get here - like sw

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread satkinsn
Yeah, I agree the huge disadvantage of aac and mp3 is the fact that you're stuck with what you're stuck with, and transcoding is a no-no. OTOH, I'm trying hard to spend more time enjoying what I have and less planning a future of listening that may never get here - like switching off iPods to some

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
ralphpnj wrote: > With lossless compression, such as flac or alac, the file can converted > to any other audio codec with no loss in audio quality. darrenyeats wrote: > Agreed. I forgot to mention that according to the last audiophile rumors the conversion between one lossless format to anothe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's "Morning Phase"...

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: > Seriously, HDTracks... Do you guys ever look at these files for quality > control purposes before declaring the album fit for high-resolution and > charging folks $18USD? I know you claim to just sell what the label > gives you, but isn't it a bit disingenuous to be calling muc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread darrenyeats
ralphpnj wrote: > With lossless compression, such as flac or alac, the file can converted > to any other audio codec with no loss in audio quality. Agreed. Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_con

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
Apesbrain wrote: > OMG, I hadn't thought of that! I've been looking for something to > restore my wireless signal strength. I have just the thing for you: The new "Audiophile Air In Can"!! 15692 Audiophile Air In Can (or AAiC, for short) is a revolutionary new product that guarantees to impro

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-03-03 Thread Apesbrain
Mnyb wrote: > Have you ripped it to flac yet , or wait it must probably be wav to work > properly ;) > > Then ytou can demagnitise your switch and ethernet cables to OMG, I hadn't thought of that! I've been looking for something to restore my wireless signal strength. -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-03-03 Thread Mnyb
Apesbrain wrote: > Yes, the Densen DeMagic. Haven't used it since I moved to Squeezebox > but I think I still have it in my CD drawer: > > [image: http://www.mwaudio.de/assets/big/g_densen_demagic.jpg] > > 'Website' (http://densen.dk/index.php?page=densen-cd-magic) Have you ripped it to flac

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-03-03 Thread Apesbrain
Mnyb wrote: > ...and a CD with funny noises you should play in order demagnitise your > hifi . Yes, the Densen DeMagic. Haven't used it since I moved to Squeezebox but I think I still have it in my CD drawer: [image: http://www.mwaudio.de/assets/big/g_densen_demagic.jpg] 'Website' (http://den

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
satkinsn wrote: > I guess my very unscientific take is that I'm reading more pushback in > the forums I frequent, more people calling b-s on various unsupported > claims. I'm not saying the argument's been won, or close to it, but it's > at least easier to get a dissenting opinon these days, with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: High-Resolution Audio Expectations...

2014-03-03 Thread satkinsn
ralphpnj wrote: > You must be joking! > > If you mean by "the broader audio community" everyone EXCEPT audiophiles > then perhaps there may be a very small kernel of truth buried somewhere > but as far as I can tell things shake out like this: > > 1) In the broader non-audiophile audio communit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-03-03 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: > Indeed you're right about the IR with CD, John... However, I have never > read anywhere that this actually worked to reduce errors. Nor did Mr. Swenson give any numbers or measurements regarding the types of errors these green markers are supposed to correct. His response was