Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread Julf
arnyk wrote: > Key to the audiophile credibility for such weirdness is the fact that > audiophiles in general rarely hear live music, they avoid good listening > tests, and that they can never properly audition the live feed from a > good microphone or the console at a live performance. You migh

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread Julf
SBGK wrote: > why would they do that if the dac was immune to any gremlins fed to it ? Probably for the same reason they already do all kinds of tweaks and add all kinds of accessories that have no effect. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Once again - does wav sound different than flac?

2015-09-24 Thread arnyk
netchord wrote: > I don't suffer from yours. No reason why not. arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104227 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread arnyk
SBGK wrote: > why would they do that if the dac was immune to any gremlins fed to it ? Because they are bullied into such wasteful purchases by unscrupulous audio manufacturers, dealers and other audiophiles. The audiophile culture has created a population of people who crave influence and make

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread SBGK
Julf wrote: > Well, except... My point was that true audiophiles tend to declare > asynchronous sample rate converters Truly Evil - probably because they > make the whole jitter discussion a non-issue, and in a simple way, so > that can't be good. > > The answer to by SBGK's question (that no d

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread arnyk
Julf wrote: > Well, except... My point was that true audiophiles tend to declare > asynchronous sample rate converters Truly Evil - probably because they > make the whole jitter discussion a non-issue, and in a simple way, so > that can't be good. > > The answer to by SBGK's question (that no d

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread arnyk
Julf wrote: > I agree with not drinking and typing, but how can you *read* an > audiophile forum and not drink? Consider the source. ;-) arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread Archimago
arnyk wrote: > We already went through one stage of gratuitous reclocking with the > advent of Asynch DACs, and look where that got us - a perceived need for > another stage of reclocking! > > I have no doubt that given the low cost of parts to implement, and the > almost universal gullibility o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread Julf
ralphpnj wrote: > What they said. Well, except... My point was that true audiophiles tend to declare asynchronous sample rate converters Truly Evil - probably because they make the whole jitter discussion a non-issue, and in a simple way, so that can't be good. The answer to by SBGK's question

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread ralphpnj
SBGK wrote: > so what will you say when manufacturers start making their dacs with > regen type devices already included and people prefer the sq of those to > previous versions ? will that also be some form of mass delusion ? See below: Archimago wrote: > What, USB DACs with a USB hub chip in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: > Julf. You should know better than to drink and type on an audiophile > forum. :-) I agree with not drinking and typing, but how can you *read* an audiophile forum and not drink? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread arnyk
Archimago wrote: > What, USB DACs with a USB hub chip in front of the on-board > microcontroller to "reclock" or "regenerate" or whatever? > We already went through one stage of gratuitous reclocking with the advent of Asynch DACs, and look where that got us - a perceived need for another stage

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Technical Question: Is the amount of jitter a function of the type of connection?

2015-09-24 Thread arnyk
SBGK wrote: > so what will you say when manufacturers start making their dacs with > regen type devices already included and people prefer the sq of those to > previous versions ? will that also be some form of mass delusion ? I will do what everybody should do all the time, and what you should