Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread sckramer
Mnyb wrote: > Yes the filter less NOS DAC a very audiophile solution to the > "everything sounds the same" problem ;) ok enjoy the artifacts if you > fancy. > > But as usual there are "explanations" that these things in some magical > ways really is "better" than a regular well designed DAC . >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread sckramer
Archimago wrote: > Hey Sckramer, cool man! A single chip version :-). I guess ya gotta save > on the power usage with batteries. > > Well, I do have a 4-chip TDA1543 I measured awhile back (bought for $60 > on eBay): > http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/02/measurements-muse-mini-tda1543x4-nos.htm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread andy_c
Julf wrote: > I am simply using an established term describing the 1980's Linn/Naim > enthusiasts. > > http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/the-new-flat-earth/ They even had their own magazine for a brief time: "'_The_Flat_Response_' (http://thetomtomclub.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-flat-response-

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread Mnyb
Yes the filter less NOS DAC a very audiophile solution to the "everything sounds the same" problem ;) ok enjoy the artifacts if you fancy. But as usual there are "explanations" that these things in some magical ways really is "better" than a regular well designed DAC . Honestly , I think we are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread Archimago
sckramer wrote: > Hi Archimago, > > I ran across those strange TDA dacs, based on that old chip also -- > here's the one I saw: > > what do they sound like? Hey Sckramer, cool man! A single chip version :-). I guess ya gotta save on the power usage with batteries. Well, I do have a 4-chip TDA

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread sckramer
Hi Archimago, I ran across those strange TDA dacs, based on that old chip also -- here's the one I saw: what do they sound like? +---+ |Filename: tda_dac.jpg | |Download: http://forums.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread Archimago
drmatt wrote: > "Audiophiles" are people too... ;) > > I had a couple of old Philips players once, and subsequently an Arcam > player with a 16 bit DAC. Enjoyed the Arcam but I wouldn't call it > uniquely capable versus newer 24 bit systems. I would say it had a > particular type of distortion t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread drmatt
arnyk wrote: > > I never said that you were deluded. > I know, you only implied it. > > Provide reliable proof for that, please. > You know that it's possible to measure the difference between two amplifiers in terms of s/n ratio and distortion levels and type of distortion. Maybe I can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread drmatt
"Directed against?" Hardly. Just a comment of recognition from the old days... drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10550

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread Julf
drmatt wrote: > And I just realised I'm being heckled by THE Arny Krueger of rec.audio.* > fame. Awesome! This hasn't happened since 1993! > > I thought you were banned from like all Internet forums everywhere...? I think this would be the classic example of an ad hominem comment. "To try to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread drmatt
Archimago wrote: > Yeah, the only 16-bit DACs you're likely going to find "new" these days > are based on old NOS DACs like the old Philips TDA154x designs. > > Some audiophiles seem to like them... Certainly "different" rather than > "better"! "Audiophiles" are people too... ;) I had a couple

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread drmatt
And I just realised I'm being heckled by THE Arny Krueger of rec.audio.* fame. Awesome! This hasn't happened since 1993! I thought you were banned from like all Internet forums everywhere...? drmatt's Profile: http://for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread drmatt
arnyk wrote: > I never said that all electronics sounds the same. > > Asserting that something is correct only because one likes it and with > no other supporting evidence can be called solipsism which is generally > thought to be characteristic of poor logic. I didn't assert it was correct, on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread arnyk
drmatt wrote: > Electronics do not sound the same. There, I said it. > I never said that all electronics sounds the same. > > Now stop telling me I'm deluded and show me why you aren't. > I never said that you were deluded. > > They aren't radically different, but there are subtle diff

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread drmatt
Wow, prickly. Electronics do not sound the same. There, I said it. Now stop telling me I'm deluded and show me why you aren't. Re EQ. Fair enough. I can't be arsed, because I know that I accommodate different tonal balances after a short while listening as I said. More annoyed with bad mixes on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit or 24 bit DAC..?

2016-05-11 Thread arnyk
garym wrote: > is it even possible to find a 16 bit DAC anymore? > For example they can be found in some portable players. When power usage is an issue, why waste it on useless hardware? Furthermore, a lot of so-called 24 bit DACs perform like they are 16 (or fewer) bit DACs front-ended

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] advice needed: Audiolab m-dac or m-dac plus with SBT?

2016-05-11 Thread tusken
thanks for all your advice. In the end ,the used m-dac turned out not be mint -the seller had "forgotten" to mention the ding on the front, so i passed on that one. I think i will audition the m-dac plus in my home and see what impressions I have -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread arnyk
drmatt wrote: > I also find that if I was going to do electronic/digital eq it would > have to be done per-album, given that they are all mastered so > differently. > The fact that albums are mastered differently does not oblige the speaker equalization be individually tuned differently for ev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile power cables don't just seem like a scam - they actually are.

2016-05-11 Thread arnyk
drmatt wrote: > I didn't say I demo them in the dealer other than as a taster... > > I generally found I can judge the relative merits of a bunch of speakers > in the dealer to then try out a couple at home. And mostly I've been > experimenting with electronics not speakers. > Given that elect