Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-13 Thread epoch1970
Golden Earring wrote: > Have you considered using a low bitrate internet radio station as a > compressed music source? > ... > BTW, in the UK you're supposed to get licences from the Performing > Rights Society (who handle royalties for composers & publishers) AND a > Public Performance Licence (

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-12 Thread Golden Earring
epoch1970 wrote: > I am looking into compression, not sure yet how much heavy-handed it > should be... Have you considered using a low bitrate internet radio station as a compressed music source? They're obviously less than CD quality, but should be fine for background music & they already use

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-12 Thread epoch1970
Golden Earring wrote: > How many loudspeakers do you have in the store? Are they all supplied by > the same amplifier? > > I would suggest the following relatively inexpensive approach... The plan was for 5 amps (PCP with Pi3 + Justboom amp HAT) in dual mono, for 10 speakers. For the moment ther

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-12 Thread Golden Earring
epoch1970 wrote: > I only measured the ambient noise level once, with an iPhone... I did > not expect to have to disclose my findings here :) Anyways, there was > little public in the store, and the quietest place measured at ~34 dB. > In the "L" group, 1m away from the freezer I measured ~46 dB.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-11 Thread epoch1970
Golden Earring wrote: > Cancelling the noise of your refrigeration units may not be as easy as > you think - how many independent units are there?... How loud are these > things anyway? :) These are commercial refrigeration units similar to these: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-11 Thread Golden Earring
epoch1970 wrote: > Of course, noise cancellation would be great... There are refrigeration > units, quite loud and they produce what I think is stationary noise. Hi! Cancelling the noise of your refrigeration units may not be as easy as you think - how many independent units are there? Each on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-11 Thread epoch1970
Using a compressor is actually what I am experimenting with right now. I would say job done if the end result was a less tiring/fluctuating audio stream. Regarding auto-volume control, reading from the comments I no longer expect as much. I did also a bit of testing and pumping the volume up I end

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-10 Thread JJZolx
I've never found ReplayGain to really do an adequate job of adjusting volume so that I never had to adjust the volume of music playing randomly. Older CDs, especially, before the loudness wars and the massive compression employed in later releases, are still noticeably quieter. IMO, the only way

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-10 Thread epoch1970
I think we can consider the topic closed. My thanks for the interesting and varied contributions! 3 SB 3 • Libratone Loop, Zipp Mini • iPeng (iPhone + iPad) • LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa • IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) • Server Power Control

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-09 Thread darrenyeats
bpa wrote: > my basic point was that it is usually not possible to please all the > people all of the time. I agree that's a factor! Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: h

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-07 Thread bpa
darrenyeats wrote: > It depends what you mean by automated control. Does this include > reacting to outside peak temperature - I guess this would need hooking > into forecasts? > > One of my complaints about many offices is that they are too cold on hot > days and too hot on cold days. I know se

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-07 Thread darrenyeats
bpa wrote: > > From past experience with an office and air-conditioning. Even though > temp was automated - it seems depending on how it looked outside (sunny, > rainy, windy) - occupants "felt" hot/cold and complained. Solution - > put in a control the occupants could twiddle but in reality t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-06 Thread arnyk
epoch1970 wrote: > Sorry if the post is off topic for this forum. > I have put a player in a store a few weeks ago. People who work there > keep changing the volume on the player although it uses track replaygain > and plays at random from a specific library. > Not only they change volume but the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-06 Thread bpa
I think you'll never keep people happy even after adding automation. >From past experience with an office and air-conditioning. Even though temp was automated - it seems depending on how it looked outside (sunny, rainy, windy) - occupants "felt" hot/cold and complained. Solution - put in a cont

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-06 Thread SuperQ
This is totally off-topic for an audiophiles section, but my recommendation for this would be to parts. Step 1, get a an SPL meter. There are some out there with USB so you could try and do data logging. Step 2, Find out what volume level is loud enough to not be a bother when the store is quie

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Too loud", "too quiet" opinions: what are the factors?

2017-07-06 Thread epoch1970
Sorry if the post is off topic for this forum. I have put a player in a store a few weeks ago. People who work there keep changing the volume on the player although it uses track replaygain and plays at random from a specific library. Not only they change volume but they have one single complain a