Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread duke43j
Kphinney - I would love to get together, but Friday night is date night at our house (with my wife). Maybe we should make arrangements offline. My e-mail address is duke...@gmail.com. Phil - I absolutely agree. The analog stage is, in effect, a preamp running in a noisy environment. A poorly desi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
timequest;421433 Wrote: > ... the slight gains in fidelity > This is a slippery slope. Your "fidelity" is my "euphonics". DAC's are like styli or speakers... a matter entirely of preference. Fidelity doesn't come into it. Each to their own! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal pat

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread kphinney
duke43j;421389 Wrote: > I don't have a transporter, but I can bring the wine and snacks if you > can show me the difference between the SB3 analog out vs. an external > DAC. > I've been thinking about springing for an external DAC for quite a > while, but I am not sure if there will be $1K worth

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread timequest
duke43j;421389 Wrote: > I don't have a transporter, but I can bring the wine and snacks if you > can show me the difference between the SB3 analog out vs. an external > DAC. > I've been thinking about springing for an external DAC for quite a > while, but I am not sure if there will be $1K worth

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
duke43j;421389 Wrote: > I don't have a transporter, but I can bring the wine and snacks if you > can show me the difference between the SB3 analog out vs. an external > DAC. > I've been thinking about springing for an external DAC for quite a > while, but I am not sure if there will be $1K worth

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread duke43j
I don't have a transporter, but I can bring the wine and snacks if you can show me the difference between the SB3 analog out vs. an external DAC. I've been thinking about springing for an external DAC for quite a while, but I am not sure if there will be $1K worth of improvement. I've read all the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-04-07 Thread kphinney
boxerboy;413566 Wrote: > I have the Channel Islands DAC and was wondering if the DAC-1 would be > an upgrade. It seems that it would be no better than an even swap. > > Do you think any of new more expensive DAC's would come close to the > performance of a transporter? > > Jim I can only gues

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-04-07 Thread boxerboy
I have the Channel Islands DAC and was wondering if the DAC-1 would be an upgrade. It seems that it would be no better than an even swap. Do you think any of new more expensive DAC's would come close to the performance of a transporter? Jim -- boxerboy ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-04-06 Thread kphinney
kphinney;209304 Wrote: > 2pm EST, Saturday June 16 > > I just bought a Channel Islands Audio DAC and a friend of mine is on > his way over with a Benchmark DAC1 for a little comparison. I'd like > You to tell us what comparisons to run and we'll report back with our > impressions. > > Many he

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-26 Thread corbey
melomaniac;211069 Wrote: > > > I am trying to decide between an inexpensive DAC like this one, and an > upgraded power supply. which would make more of a difference? I have the SB3 power supply plugged into a PSAudio P300 power plant (not quite the same as upgrading the power supply, I know),

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-26 Thread kphinney
melomaniac;211069 Wrote: > how do people feel about the predecessor, the Channel Islands Audio > VDA-1 DAC? is it an improvement over the analog out of the SB3? > > I am trying to decide between an inexpensive DAC like this one, and an > upgraded power supply. which would make more of a differe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-26 Thread melomaniac
how do people feel about the predecessor, the Channel Islands Audio VDA-1 DAC? is it an improvement over the analog out of the SB3? I am trying to decide between an inexpensive DAC like this one, and an upgraded power supply. which would make more of a difference? -- melomaniac --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-24 Thread SatoriGFX
kphinney;210691 Wrote: > Help me out a bit - why is the Benchmark so well received here? > My guess? Hype. I'm not saying it's not a quality product. but I do find it interesting, reading through various forums, that more than a few people who have tried the DAC-1 and the VDA-2 chose the lat

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-24 Thread Pat Farrell
kphinney wrote: > why is the Benchmark so well received here? it is, IMHO, a good piece of gear. It is not new, I've had mine probably three years. I would expect something designed recently to be both comparable and a little cheaper. I no longer use my DAC-1, I use my Transporter. But if I ha

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-24 Thread kphinney
The Benchmark weighed more. Only kidding. as mentioned the synergy between the VDA-2 and my tube system was very good. My original comments hold true for both my system in the first round of testing and Geof's Rotel amp and I-Bens speakers in the 2nd round: A low noise floor was evident in bot

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-24 Thread JJZolx
kphinney;210691 Wrote: > Enlisted the service of our wives and between the four of us we could > not choose a consummate winner between the VDA-2 and DAC-1. Help me > out a bit - why is the Benchmark so well received here? > I don't ask this to start a flame war or ruffle any feathers. I'm > ge

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-24 Thread kphinney
Enlisted the service of our wives and between the four of us we could not choose a consummate winner between the VDA-2 and DAC-1. Help me out a bit - why is the Benchmark so well received here? I don't ask this to start a flame war or ruffle any feathers. I'm genuinely interested in what owners

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-22 Thread kphinney
We're going to pick up this little comparison this evening. This time using Geof's system. More specs on that later (as I'm not exactly sure what he has set up). We'll be running Ron F's suggestions for testing the sound floor and Geof's SlimServer selections of choice. (If we get really silly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-18 Thread kphinney
Ron F.;209643 Wrote: > kphinney, > > Actually, if you are looking for some tests to run, then consider > downloading the 24-bit 1 kHz sine wave files: -100, -110, and -120 > dBFS, from http://www.rme-audio.com/english/download/audtest.htm. > ... > > -Ron Excellent Ron. I'll try it out when we

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-18 Thread Ron F .
kphinney, Actually, if you are looking for some tests to run, then consider downloading the 24-bit 1 kHz sine wave files: -100, -110, and -120 dBFS, from http://www.rme-audio.com/english/download/audtest.htm. Make very sure to set your SB3 in "Repeat One," so it does not move on to play another

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-18 Thread Ron F .
kphinney;209304 Wrote: > 2pm EST, Saturday June 16 > > I just bought a Channel Islands Audio DAC and a friend of mine is on > his way over with a Benchmark DAC1 for a little comparison. I'd like > You to tell us what comparisons to run and we'll report back with our > impressions. > > The V

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-16 Thread kphinney
It's pretty close to a tie. We decided to write some of this down before running out for another bottle of wine. The VDA-2 is in the lead but we have agreed to listen to both on G's system before we declare any consummate winner. We've run the gambit from Norah Jones to The Cult, Handle to Ozzy.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-16 Thread JJZolx
kphinney;209309 Wrote: > Funny guy. I thought we'd just weigh both of them and maybe see how hot > they become if left in the sun. You could also take some measurements on a scope and it would give you just about as much information on how they sound. -- JJZolx Jim --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-16 Thread kphinney
Funny guy. I thought we'd just weigh both of them and maybe see how hot they become if left in the sun. -- kphinney SB3 CIAudio DVA-2 JoLida 102B Omega Grand 6's & B&W 602 S2's PowerMac Zhaolu D2.5 AKG K501 kphinney's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-16 Thread JJZolx
kphinney;209304 Wrote: > 2pm EST, Saturday June 16I'd like You to tell us what comparisons to run Here's a really wild idea... how about listening to the same music through both of them? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-16 Thread opaqueice
One suggestion - after listening to the two for a while to get a sense of the difference, try listening blind. Make sure the volumes are matched. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2007-06-16 Thread kphinney
2pm EST, Saturday June 16 I just bought a Channel Islands Audio DAC and a friend of mine is on his way over with a Benchmark DAC1 for a little comparison. I'd like You to tell us what comparisons to run and we'll report back with our impressions. Many here are proponents of the DAC1 so here's