ralphpnj;622281 Wrote:
> And again I remind you that I'm not talking about how to describe a live
> musical event or even recorded music but how to describe an audio system
> ability to play music.
It is common, and quite understandable, for listeners to blur the line
between the creation of mus
mervin_b;620409 Wrote:
> You can write the way you want to, but you don't need to tell me how to
> write.
>
> I'm an engineer, and to claim "lower noise floor and less background
> electronic noise such as hiss", I'd need to have (1) heard or measured
> lower noise, (2) heard less hiss. Unfortun
ralphpnj;619650 Wrote:
> The term a "wide soundstage" can be replaced with "very good channel
> separation and accurate frequency response".
>
One is a description of a subjective phenomenon, the other is an
assumed explanation for it and not a replacement for the purely
descriptive term at al
It's just like quieter silence...
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mervin_b;620409 Wrote:
> It would be -so- sad if the day came that the beauty of music and joys
> of listening had to be described in such sterile vocabulary.
Thumbs up!
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ralphpnj;619650 Wrote:
> Full of it? No. Misguided? Yes.
>
> Much, if not all, of what you and Mervin describe can just as easily be
> described in easy to understand technical terms instead of the
> completely worn out audiophile mumbo-jumbo.
>
> For example:
>
> Instead of "like there's less
garym;619661 Wrote:
> I'd say you were full of it long before this point. :-P
>
> edit: forgot the bad joke drums at the end: "barump-bump"
I still like the "subjective" descriptions of good sound. Its the art
side of the science of audiophilia.
BTW - i DONT think you are FOS.
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That takes much more advanced technology than good ol' stereophonics is
capable of. Maybe this is a starting point?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_field_synthesis
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ralphpnj;619650 Wrote:
>
> Well designed and built audio equipment should be capable of
> reproducing an audio signal as close as possible to the original event
> with as few compromises as possible.
I'm liking that statement a lot. :-)
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magiccarpetride;619641 Wrote:
>
>
> Or would you say that I'm full of shit at this point?
I'd say you were full of it long before this point. :-P
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magiccarpetride;619641 Wrote:
> Excellent explanation. I can easily understand the signal-to-noise
> ratio, and that when you lower the noise you can more easily perceive
> the signal. Still, it's the very signal itself that needs some tender
> loving care. Even in the absence of noise, the signa
mervin_b;619522 Wrote:
> It's not easy to describe, rather like there's less happening in quieter
> passages, allowing you to hear decaying acoustics and other low level
> detail better.
Excellent explanation. I can easily understand the signal-to-noise
ratio, and that when you lower the noise y
Where I have experienced 'blacker blacks' is in the early days of my
modding of gears, when I replaced run of the mill, low cost rectifier
diodes in cd players and dacs with quieter schottky diodes.
It's not easy to describe, rather like there's less happening in
quieter passages, allowing you t
magiccarpetride;618770 Wrote:
> Can someone enlighten me? How would I go about detecting 'blacker
> blacks' on a good audio system?
"Blacker blacks" are what you see after the veil as been lifted and the
window opened so that you are one step closer to the original musical
event.
Simple really.
I just posted a response to the cable debate that addresses this issue.
Black is the absence of a noisy background. Sounds simple. Its not
easy. Everything from caps to cords come into play. Its the full
picture. Signal to noise is the concept. How its implemented system
wide is the result. Thats
Depends on the cables. Nice try. :)
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Curt962;618804 Wrote:
> Ya know..if it was something as simple as "Whiter Whites", it would be a
> small matter to direct you to the laundry detergent aisle at your local
> supermarket.
>
> When the fringes of the audio press are populated by Seers, and
> poets...is when we begin to hear phra
Ya know..if it was something as simple as "Whiter Whites", it would be a
small matter to direct you to the laundry detergent aisle at your local
supermarket.
When the fringes of the audio press are populated by Seers, and
poets...is when we begin to hear phrases like "Blacker blacks", etc, et
I'm reminded of Spinal Tap and the "Black Album":
In the 1984 film, lead guitarist Nigel Tufnel looks at the album cover
for the first time and opines, "It's like, how much more black could
this be? And the answer is none, none, none more black."
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A...I knew you'd come through for us MagiccarpetrideI just knew
it. :)
Blacker blacks? We're not supposed to know these things. As mere
mortals, we cannot possibly hope to understand them.They come from
another realmanother plane of existence. Only the
self-actualized, a
Try as I might, I was never able to spot the ever elusive unicorn some
audiophiles call 'blacker blacks'. Although the audiophile press and
brochureware abound with such terms, I'm at a loss as to what the hell
does that mean?
Can someone enlighten me? How would I go about detecting 'blacker
blac
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