tomjtx;401407 Wrote:
> I 2nd that and I bet Phil would 3rd it :=)
Please
actually, that gives me a great idea... I need to order some new
interconnects... :)
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
SB3 (wired) -
SteveEast;401359 Wrote:
> What a great opportunity for Logitech to send Mr Leigh a brand spanking
> new TP so he can run his Audio DiffMaker tests on it as it "burns
> in"...
>
> Steve.
I 2nd that and I bet Phil would 3rd it :=)
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tomjtx
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What a great opportunity for Logitech to send Mr Leigh a brand spanking
new TP so he can run his Audio DiffMaker tests on it as it "burns
in"...
Steve.
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Hey everyone,
I was the original poster and just checked back now... Really
interesting to read all of your opinions. I definitely believe that I
have heard burn in on many electronic devices that have no moving
parts. In the same way that amps take time to "warm up", this warming
process in co
StigErik;394899 Wrote:
> I would think that the socalled "factory burn-in process" is done mainly
> to ensure that the products actually works when they reach the
> customer...? Semiconductors that are bad usually breaks within a few
> hours, so a day or two of "burn-in" at the factory is a good
I'm as skeptical as the next person about "burn-in" in general. However
I do think that there are some exceptions that merit pointing out. One
such being Black Gate capacitors that I've used many times in DIY valve
amps as cathode bypass caps. These particular caps do appear to change
their charac
I would think that the socalled "factory burn-in process" is done mainly
to ensure that the products actually works when they reach the
customer...? Semiconductors that are bad usually breaks within a few
hours, so a day or two of "burn-in" at the factory is a good thing for
quality assurance.
I
As a 91% skeptic, I agree with Themis that almost ALL highly regarded
manufactures claim some kind of in-factory burning process, not to say
the "critics" in the industry, which in most reviews mention the B
word.
Companies that produce in my opinion some of the best equipment
available, such as H
pfarrell;394671 Wrote:
> gandt wrote:
> > c) Ha the wife has bought something very nearly as expensive but dull
> -
> > like a new washing machine or something trivial like that
>
> In my house, when the wife wants a new washing machine, she gets it.
> And
> it doesn't allow me to buy stuff to
BlueScreenJunky;394681 Wrote:
> How is a washing machine not frivolous ? Who needs clean clothes when
> you can have $2000+ RCA cables ? :-P
Who needs a 2000$ Transporter to listen to music anyway ? :p
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BlueScreenJunky wrote:
> How is a washing machine not frivolous ? Who needs clean clothes when
> you can have $2000+ RCA cables ? :-P
True, but without the machine, I get to wash the clothes by hand. Down
by the river on the rocks. Which will take up all the time that I would
be using to listen to
How is a washing machine not frivolous ? Who needs clean clothes when
you can have $2000+ RCA cables ? :-P
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gandt wrote:
> c) Ha the wife has bought something very nearly as expensive but dull -
> like a new washing machine or something trivial like that
In my house, when the wife wants a new washing machine, she gets it. And
it doesn't allow me to buy stuff to evaluate if burning is needed.
She has t
fortitude.five;393478 Wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I wanted to see if any of you have experienced any amount of audible
> improvement as your transporter burns in with hours of use? If so, how
> many hours until you feel that yours was totally burned in and
> stabilized? I felt that the first 5-
Hahaha !
Best post I've read in a while Gandt ! That's exactly what happens to
me too ^^
And I'm convinced that burn-in has a very limited effect (there might
be one or not, I don't know), but it sure takes some time to get used
to new hardware and enjoy it fully.
By the way, something that might
Buying stuff goes a bit like this for me
a) that looks interesting but i cant afford it
b) the reviews are brilliant and apparently this guy is totally
revisiting his entire record collection because of the new insights it
brings but i cant afford it
c) Ha the wife has bought something very nearl
darrenyeats;394338 Wrote:
> Is it me, or is this thread getting much better as it goes on? :)
> Darren
Yes, threads like this just needs some burn in time ;)
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darrenyeats;394338 Wrote:
> Is it me, or is this thread getting much better as it goes on? :)
> Darren
:) Very true. I find threads in the Audiophile forum are initially
often quite flat and lifeless. Only after repeated refreshing over a
period of a few days does the full toasty flameyness rea
Is it me, or is this thread starting to sound much better than when it
started? :)
Darren
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Themis;394259 Wrote:
> A few years ago, when some of us were saying that speakers require
> burn-in, most of the industry were saying that all this is nonsense.
Really? Who in the industry was saying that?
There's no doubt - and I'm very skeptical there ever was - that speaker
drivers change
It should be burned in by the time the sound waves reach your ears.
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XP > Cat5 > Transporter > SPDIF > Meridian G68 > DSP6000, DSP5500HC,
DSP5000
XP > Cat5 > SB3 > SPDIF > Meridian DSP5000
XP > Cat5 > SB3 > SPDIF > Meridian G91 > DSP5000
'My Transporter Setup'
(http://forums.slimdev
A few years ago, when some of us were saying that speakers require
burn-in, most of the industry were saying that all this is nonsense.
Some years (and measures) later, the same people seem to agree that
-after all- there is some burn-in involved.
Some peoples' opinion need burn-in. :)
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The
I wonder when (or even if?) we are going to realise that whilst building
good audio gear is reasonably straightforward, the human brain remains a
device of seemingly infinite complexity...
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call m
Audio electronics do not burn in in any remotely perceptible way. Your
brain, on the other hand, perceives things very differently depending
on all kinds of factors...
If there's a lack of bass, move your speakers closer to the wall. Or
pour yourself a glass of scotch.
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opaqueice
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There is no reason for electronics to require break-in. People who
design the gear and their parts want to select materials that DO NOT
change over time. In case they do, its only for the worse (like
elecrolytic capacitors).
Speakers do break in, but according to loudspeaker driver
manufacturers,
Most CD players and solid state amps need a 24-48 hours burn-in. No idea
about TP, but it should be about the same.
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fortitude.five wrote:
> I felt that the first 5-10 hours on mine was lacking bass
> response and overall imaging/dynamics, but now after 100 or more it is
> drastically better. Anyone else have similar experiences?
I don't believe in burn in for electronics. Stuff that moves, OK, it can
take a bi
If after burn in you hear a diff , there IS one to YOU.
There is a polarization of the forum in terms of objectivists and
subjectivists...I doubt you will get any clear cut answer to your
Query.
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Rodney_Gold
Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's
TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's
TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's
TP/
Can't comment on the Transporter, but I've recently implemented some
manufacturer recommended modifications to my DAC, and these took around
two weeks to come on song, and this with 24/7 signal running through the
device.
The Transporter may, like many system components, benefit from a
lengthy ru
None, there isn't anything in the TP that requires burnin. Only your
ears need time to adjust.
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Hey everyone,
I wanted to see if any of you have experienced any amount of audible
improvement as your transporter burns in with hours of use? If so, how
many hours until you feel that yours was totally burned in and
stabilized? I felt that the first 5-10 hours on mine was lacking bass
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