Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Julf
Gandhi wrote: > EDIT: Better make that sines with cosines on the side. To go. Well, a cosine is a sine that is running a bit late... :) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Gandhi
Mnyb wrote: > There is the wonderfull audiodiffmaker program for this :) compare > >120dB zeros with for examle trying to hear anything attenuated -120dB > at your listening position good luck with that , or listen to the > residue signal itself ! > > .Afaik the arguments about test tones falls

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Mnyb
Gandhi wrote: > Ah, yes. I misread the definition of the Galatea effect. I thought it > just was about underperforming (which I thought was odd), but I see now > that it also is about succeeding. > > And I must confess I often equate cynisism with realism. > > An objective component review wo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Gandhi
Mnyb wrote: > ..."Galatea effect"... Ah, yes. I misread the definition of the Galatea effect. I thought it just was about underperforming (which I thought was odd), but I see now that it also is about succeeding. And I must confess I often equate cynisism with realism. An objective component

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Mnyb
Gandhi wrote: > I don't quite follow. Which one(s) are you refering to? > > I think even bias is biased. Yes my argument is weak (and biased) and i don’t get all of the explanations i googled up "Galatea effect" is a kind of self fullfilling prophecy , you "succeed" as audiophile if you believe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Gandhi
Mnyb wrote: > Some maybe ? we do get ourselfs motivated to do stuff due to our > comunity here that we otherwise wont do or would not think off . > > Remebre bias is niether good or bad its just bias :) I don't quite follow. Which one(s) are you refering to? I think even bias is biased. Bes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread get.amped
My bias about biases is that bias is bad and even though I'm cognizant of my bias I am still biased by it. Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.9.0 -> Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.3 -> Cambridge Audio DacMagic -> NAD C160 -> 2 x NAD C272 -> Quad 22L2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Mnyb
Gandhi wrote: > Good stuff. > > While I admit to suffering from all of these problems, it's not > immediate clear to me how the following pertains to audiophilism: Affect > heuristic, Duration neglect, Galatea effect, Hard-Easy bias, Omission > bias. Some maybe ? we do get ourselfs motivated to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Julf
Gandhi wrote: > Good stuff. > > While I admit to suffering from all of these problems, it's not > immediate clear to me how the following pertains to audiophilism: Affect > heuristic, Duration neglect, Galatea effect, Hard-Easy bias, Omission > bias. Hmm... Yes, those ones are pretty hard to ap

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-19 Thread Gandhi
Good stuff. While I admit to suffering from all of these problems, it's not immediate clear to me how the following pertains to audiophilism: Affect heuristic, Duration neglect, Galatea effect, Hard-Easy bias, Omission bias. Best Regards, Gandhi not often enough well recorded and mastered cds

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cognitive biases

2014-06-18 Thread Julf
I was going to ask "how many of these apply to hi-fi?", but then I realized it is probably better to ask "any that don't apply?" 'Business Insider: 58 Cognitive Biases That Screw Up Everything We Do' (http://www.businessinsider.com/cognitive-biases-2014-6) "To try to judge the real from the fa