adamdea;657899 Wrote:
> This link seems to cover most of the myths rather effectively (although
> aimed at radio hams)
>
> http://www.261.gr/Digital%20Audio%20by%20R%20Orban.html
Excellent !!
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There a review of a Musical Fidelity V-DAC II, which has a much touted
asynch USB interface, in this month's HiFi News. They measured 10psec
of jitter over s/pdif, but 60-90psec over USB - much worse. So asynch
USB doesn't seem necessarily to be the answer - it may be the better
than non-asynch US
This link seems to cover most of the myths rather effectively (although
aimed at radio hams)
http://www.261.gr/Digital%20Audio%20by%20R%20Orban.html
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ralphpnj;657703 Wrote:
> Thanks for that quick response.
>
> So USB can be implemented so as not to be problematic, which is good
> but again I ask how does this compare to Coaxial S/PDIF & toslink? Do
> these connections require similar design features to overcome inherent
> flaws or do they wo
pippin;657701 Wrote:
> USB doesn't need to be problematic at all. Actually the opposite is true
> since it really transfers raw data. There are just a few gotchas:
>
> You need a decent DAC design to shield against radiation noise. USB is
> noisy and so are the machines you usually plug it into.
USB doesn't need to be problematic at all. Actually the opposite is true
since it really transfers raw data. There are just a few gotchas:
You need a decent DAC design to shield against radiation noise. USB is
noisy and so are the machines you usually plug it into.
You need to have a good clock
Here's yet another question regarding digital audio:
At present there seems to be a huge focus on USB DACs, as in an
external DAC that accepts a USB input. It is my understanding that
between the three main types of digital connections available for
digital audio signals (Coaxial S/PDIF, toslink
PBA;657676 Wrote:
> TCP/IP handles data bitperfect from source to DAC. Right ? ;-)
isn't it TCP/IP from computer running SbS (or mysb.com) to SB Player.
"FROM" the SB player to internal SB Player DAC or external DAC would be
something else (S/PDIF, etc.)
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TCP/IP handles data bitperfect from source to DAC. Right ? ;-)
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Daverz;657604 Wrote:
> Maybe there are still exotic "boutique" DACs with poor jitter rejection
> that are sensitive to cables.
Would not surprise me a bit :)
In Audiophile lore such DAC would have very "high resolution" making it
possible to hear differences between cables and digital sources i
There have been reports that the quality of the s/pdif output from the
Touch is excellent, e.g.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=543586&postcount=11
Maybe someone has pictures.
I don't think differences in cables should be an issue with modern DACs
with good jitter rejection. Mayb
pcourtney;657565 Wrote:
> by the way, the article you reference is about HDMI cables, so nothing
> to do with coax
Thanks for your thoughtful response.
With respect to HDMI & USB cables versus coax cables perhaps I should
have phrased the question something like: Are there any differences
with
I suggest the following links for anyone wanting to get a handle on
jitter.
http://www.nanophon.com/audio/jitter92.pdf
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://sjeng.org/ftp/SACD.pdf
http://www.nanophon.com/audio/antialia.pdf
http://www.nanophon.com/audio/diagnose.pdf
http://www.libinst.com/A
ralphpnj;657532 Wrote:
>
> 1) Do cables matter when transferring digital data?
>
> 2) Do the Squeezebox family devices output a bit perfect digital data
> stream to either their internal DAC or to an external DAC?
>
> 2a) Are all bit perfect digital data streams of the same data
> identical?
>
Sorry I already don't understand (nor believe) other articles about
jitter just know that some audiophiles care for this word
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bluegaspode;657548 Wrote:
> I think if you search the magic word 'jitter' in combination with - well
> - obviously anything :) ... you will get some matches.
>
> So for HDMI how about that
> http://www.avforums.com/forums/blogs/welwynnick-64635/626-how-does-jitter-affect-hdmi.html
> http://www.e
ralphpnj;657532 Wrote:
> I'll start this off with a link to an excellent article on the
> PCMagazine web site:
>
> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PTT4kuHvJUEJ:www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385272,00.asp+slaying+the+monster+cable+pcmag&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firef
you really think you can defend your system by producing citations of
double-blind peer-reviewed trials showing the superiority of each
component in it to any cheaper alternatives?
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JezA;657550 Wrote:
> Everyone who spends more money on their system than I have is imagining
> the difference and has been fooled into parting with their money.
> Everyone who spends less money on their system than I have has a bad
> system.
? What's system cost got to do with this?
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ralphpnj;657543 Wrote:
> Perhaps you are correct. I'm going to explore the Hydrogenaudio site and
> see if there are reasonable answers to some of these questions. Thanks
I do very much like the hydrogenaudio.org site for nonBS audio info. As
I have a chance, I'll try to post anything I find the
Everyone who spends more money on their system than I have is imagining
the difference and has been fooled into parting with their money.
Everyone who spends less money on their system than I have has a bad
system.
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JezA
I think if you search the magic word 'jitter' in combination with - well
- obviously anything :) ... you will get some matches.
So for HDMI how about that
http://www.avforums.com/forums/blogs/welwynnick-64635/626-how-does-jitter-affect-hdmi.html
http://www.eetimes.com/design/audio-design/4013504/
Wombat;657539 Wrote:
> I really like the idea but i think on this forum here this is pointless.
>
> To every link or claim we provide someone can link to another link or
> forum post someone proves the opposite with just another claim.
> Maybe on a place like Hydrogenaudio where you have to brin
I really like the idea but i think on this forum here this is pointless.
To every link or claim we provide someone can link to another link or
forum post someone proves the opposite with just another claim.
Maybe on a place like Hydrogenaudio where you have to bring real prove
according to their
I would like to accomplish a few things with this thread (as listed
below) so that my fellow forum members and I will have thread we can
link to in order to dispel so many of the digital audio myths which
pervade the realm of audiophilia.
1) Do cables matter when transferring digital data? And if
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