mlsstl wrote:
> Some years back I ran a Squeezebox 3 (Classic) with a Lavry DAC. When
> the Touch arrived, I did a synced, back-to-back, level-matched
> comparison of the Touch's analog outputs to the SB3/Lavry combo,
>
> I found I could not tell the difference between the two without checking
StephenPG wrote:
> Thorough as always Archimago. However, properly level matched* I can't
> tell the Touch from the Duet, so 'weakest' must be taken in context...
>
>
> *The analogue outputs of the DAC's in the Touch and Reciever differ by
> .2 volts in favour of the Touch, so it will sound sig
Thorough as always Archimago. However, properly level matched* I can't
tell the Touch from the Duet, so 'weakest' must be taken in context...
*The analogue outputs of the DAC's in the Touch and Reciever differ by
.2 volts in favour of the Touch, so it will sound significantly louder
in casual te
Here's my take on the analogue outputs...
Touch:
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(http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/02/measurements-slim-devices-logitech.html)
SB3 / Classic:
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/02/measurements-slim-devices-logite
sckramer wrote:
> This is the audiophile section, so hopefully I won't get raked over the
> coals too harshly, cause this is subjective :D
>
> I just tried the touch analog out (never really used it) on my main
> system... it just sounds mediocre & grainy, you really should at least
> experiment
Mnyb wrote:
> Touch's 24 bit volume control is not dithered but the steps are cleverly
> chosen so it does not really manifest before you get to really low
> volumes , where it probably won't matter anyway.
In addition to that, any real-world material contains enough noise to
make it self-dither
pablolie wrote:
> I think the Touch has a very good analog out.
>
> I basically listen to 2 systems a fair amount - (1) my main shrine with
> the Benchmark DAC2 acting as a DAC+preamp (2) i set up a system at my
> girlfriend's with a SB Touch as the DAC. i prefer 1, but the amps are
> clearly di
I think the Touch has a very good analog out.
I basically listen to 2 systems a fair amount - (1) my main shrine with
the Benchmark DAC2 acting as a DAC+preamp (2) i set up a system at my
girlfriend's with a SB Touch as the DAC. i prefer 1, but the amps are
clearly different. and i don't think i'
mlsstl wrote:
> Some years back I ran a Squeezebox 3 (Classic) with a Lavry DAC. When
> the Touch arrived, I did a synced, back-to-back, level-matched
> comparison of the Touch's analog outputs to the SB3/Lavry combo,
>
> I found I could not tell the difference between the two without checking
Some years back I ran a Squeezebox 3 (Classic) with a Lavry DAC. When
the Touch arrived, I did a synced, back-to-back, level-matched
comparison of the Touch's analog outputs to the SB3/Lavry combo,
I found I could not tell the difference between the two without checking
the position of the amp's
sckramer wrote:
> This is the audiophile section, so hopefully I won't get raked over the
> coals too harshly, cause this is subjective :D
>
> I just tried the touch analog out (never really used it) on my main
> system... it just sounds mediocre & grainy, you really should at least
> experiment
This is the audiophile section, so hopefully I won't get raked over the
coals to harshly, cause this is subjective :D
I just tried the touch analog out (never really tried it before) on my
main system... it just sounds mediocre & grainy, you really should at
least experiment with a dac!
It sound
Baby steps. My living rooom system is typical mass market 5.1 gear.
Gets the job done, but not with the greatest fidelity. Room is very
limiting of speaker placement so the tv & speakers are a corner
placement.
Basement is my retreat to listen to vinyl and I'm only recently
interested in includ
1. Family ( or spouse ) you have own time with the hifi listening to
music no one will hear :)
2. Living room can be unsuitable for proper listening , ( usually a
function of 1 due to interior design demands )
3. A really dedicated listening area .
Hey nothing wrong with multiple listening
I never understood the concept of different systems in different rooms.
Why listen to the bedroom system when you can listen to the superior
living room system, down the hall? For me there can only be ONE system.
But, hey, that's just me.
-
Oracle Delphi TT with Rega RB300 arm and a Monster Alpha1 Mc ctg.
PS Audio 4 preamp (modded).
Symmetry crossover.
VSP Labs TransMos 150 amp for the sattelites.
A fine old Dyna Stereo 400 on bass.
Speakers by Unity Audio.
Cabling by Randall Research, Kimber, and assorted junk.
DVD player is unse
Then you put your Touch in the basement .
Cool that the 80's equipment still works :) did you service it , I which
I could have collected all the hifi stuff I ever owned ( I have borrowed
out some old speakers to friends to preserve them )
Is that an old gas Thalia preamp or something ? Or a mod
Well based on your updated information I would say to leave the Classic
in the upstairs system and use the Touch (analog output) in the
downstairs retro purist system. :)
Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. &
sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1
"Good" is subjective & relative ;)
It's a 1980 system that's been boxed up for the past 15 years until my
kids grew up & I could reclaim the space.
Good enough that I could clearly hear how lousy the first DVD player
(Philips) sounded on CD and the next (Pioneer) was far better.
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Mnyb wrote:
> How good is the basement system ? They are both competently designed
> digital products so the basement system has to be pretty good for it to
> matter at all . They are both as good as a typical CD player .
>
> Touch is slightly better , I think you can google up measurements by f
How good is the basement system ? They are both competently designed
digital products so the basement system has to be pretty good for it to
matter at all . They are both as good as a typical CD player .
Touch is slightly better , I think you can google up measurements by for
example Archimago or
I imagine this has been asked before--but maybe not EXACTLY the same
way...
I've been enjoying my Classic for over 5 years running the digital out
into an AV receiver. Never used the analog outs and never paid any
attention to any posts discussing them. But NOW I also have a Touch and
wish to pu
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