Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-29 Thread Phil Leigh
Just for the sake of balance - not wishing to start a fight or anything... 1) I find my all-digital TACT 2,2XP transparent and highly listenable and I am more than happy for it to do full-spectrum DRC. 2) You don't need to be very fussy about the correction curve IMHO. A bit of gentle roll-off ove

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-29 Thread Mr_Sukebe
I'm going to sit on the fence on this and say "it depends". I've used a Behringer DEQ2496 in my system very successfully in my old flat, but that was partly to do with the fact that the room in question had a lot of issues. In my new house, the listening room is clearly a lot better and I actually

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-29 Thread darrenyeats
DRC in the bass would be nice. Above the bass I see RC as a strategy with a kind of negative feedback loop. The more you focus on complete correction the more likely the correction might be distorted by random variabilty. I see this all the time on FR plots done with impulses and mics, there is s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-29 Thread Rodney_Gold
I have used both DRC (TACT) and just parametric eq (z-sys rdp-1) and far prefer par eq. DRC makes my big speakers sound small and you still have to dial in preference curves cos drc sounds like doo doo if you dont. I just use my par eq to notch out bass humps and tune to taste. At the end of it al

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread DCtoDaylight
Phil Leigh;296414 Wrote: > > ...and anyone (that includes a few people on this forum) who have used > real-time DSP,convolving filters/modelling etc knows that with enough > computing power you can do pretty much anything. In addition to enough computing power, to -really- make DRC work, I thin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread Phil Leigh
Interesting thread... The problem with DRC of course is that it negates the black art of the acoustic treatment guy...:o) ...and anyone (that includes a few people on this forum) who have used real-time DSP,convolving filters/modelling etc knows that with enough computing power you can do pretty

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread opaqueice
Try this one - the top is uncorrected, bottom has some kind of mild RC applied: http://static.flickr.com/67/226107032_61736146d3_o.jpg -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread Robin Bowes
opaqueice wrote: > [image: > http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/attachments/rew-forum/4815d1194043965-waterfalls-bfd-2b.jpg] > > [image: > http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/attachments/rew-forum/4820d1194045067-waterfalls-bfd-6b-smooth.jpg] Can't see these without a login to that site.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread Robin Bowes
bigfool1956 wrote: > What software are people using to measure the room response, create the > test tones, etc. and if using Inguz, to create the filters? I'm using a Behringer Deq2496, with matching Behringer mic. I'm not using Inguz. R. ___ audiophi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread opaqueice
bigfool1956;296317 Wrote: > What software are people using to measure the room response, create the > test tones, etc. and if using Inguz, to create the filters? Inguz will do all those things more or less automatically. You can also use DRC (and the tools that come with it) directly, or Room E

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread opaqueice
darrenyeats;296311 Wrote: > This probably deserves a thread of its own, there are lots of ifs and > buts. Suffice to say, I've heard the Linkwitz Orion in a -totally > untreated- living room with no DSP and the physical walls were not > impinging on the soundstage at all, they just dissolved. So

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread opaqueice
cliveb;296264 Wrote: > > Would anyone care to offer some thoughts on these two differing > opinions? How can they be reconciled? There is no doubt that DRC - or just parametric equalization - can greatly improve sound quality in the bass, at least near one listening position. The reason is s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread bigfool1956
What software are people using to measure the room response, create the test tones, etc. and if using Inguz, to create the filters? I'm not sure if a Qnap 109 is able to run inguz, is there a way to apply the filter to create a filtered file that can then be played without realtime processing? W

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread darrenyeats
Clive, good question. IMO what the audio engineers said is just common sense. I agree it is much better to treat the room to fix the bass problems. One issue is that DRC or EQ (and I realise they are different) don't fix the problem properly except in one area of the room. Room treatments can al

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread Robin Bowes
cliveb wrote: > Many years ago I asked on rec.audio.pro about DRC. I was especially > interested in using it to try and flatten the fairly modest bass dips & > humps in my room. The response I got - from quite a few experienced > professional sound engineers whose opinion I trust - is that DRC simp

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq

2008-04-28 Thread cliveb
Many years ago I asked on rec.audio.pro about DRC. I was especially interested in using it to try and flatten the fairly modest bass dips & humps in my room. The response I got - from quite a few experienced professional sound engineers whose opinion I trust - is that DRC simply does not work. The