[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-04-18 Thread philodox
I'll read through the thread in a moment, but I have found personally that coax is far better. I think it is the fault of the Squeezebox 3 and not my DAC [Lavry Black DA10] as coax and optical are nearly identical when using my Eastsound CD-E5 as a transport. -- philodox <'*' (www.stoptheseal

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-04-16 Thread JayDub
In previous comparisons with AV gear the coax is usually better, not that I can actually tell, but it is the choice for high end audio for the tefal heads out there... -- JayDub JayDub's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-04-13 Thread mamsterla
Yeah, there seems to be enough interest for one more buy. Just PM or email me and I will get the list together next week. -MA -- mamsterla mamsterla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=469 View thi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-04-11 Thread Wombat
Finally it all works and sounds perfect via coax :) It is that switching PSU! I bought a 5V stabilized 1A wall power supply on ebay - that´s all (i didn´t find another here in germany). Not any kind of humming anymore. So even if you use the digital exit, another PSU seems to help. -- Wombat --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-27 Thread P Floding
Wombat Wrote: > I read about the ones from Scientific Conversations. I bet they cost a > leg and are hard to get here in Germany. > btw. some isolator transformer implementations aren´t that straight. > Many units still have some kinds of capacitors crossed and some people > call this "evil". > I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-26 Thread Wombat
I read about the ones from Scientific Conversations. I bet they cost a leg and are hard to get here in Germany. btw. some isolator transformer implementations aren´t that straight. Many units still have some kinds of capacitors crossed and some people call this "evil". I will try on and ask a fell

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-26 Thread P Floding
Wombat Wrote: > Just cause you had the same experience in prefering the optical > connection. I wondered if you want to play around and try something > like this. Oh, I see! Thanks for the suggestion! Yes, I have some signal transformers which I will try out when I get around to it. However, my

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-26 Thread Wombat
Just cause you had the same experience in prefering the optical connection. I wondered if you want to play around and try something like this. -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=411

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-26 Thread P Floding
Wombat Wrote: > > @P Floding > May you give this a try? > Did you ask me anything, or was it an editing error? Interesting result, and nice simple solution, BTW! -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-25 Thread Wombat
I accidently found my power amplifiers humming when first switching off my D/A converter! This only happens with the Squeezy connected via Coaxial. Changing the phase of the power supply or the edge connectors never get rid of the problem but changed its quality all the time. I definitely have a g

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-20 Thread ceejay
> I am thinking about buying a Squeezebox and wonder if the onboard DAC on > the Squeezebox compares to the DAC in my Denon AVR-2803 receiver. Should > I connect the Squeezebox through stereo RCA to the Denon receiver or use > optical/coax digital connection. > I have recently started using a Den

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-20 Thread bommai
While I like to listen to music on a good system, I cannot be called an audiophile. I have a home theatre system with a Denon AVR-2803 receiver. I also use Klipsch RF-5 mains, RC-7 center and RS-35 surrounds. I also have RW12 for the sub. I currently use a Toshiba SD9200 DVD/DVD-A/CD player for

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-11 Thread P Floding
Wombat Wrote: > @P Folding > Welcome to the club! I also have better results with the optical > connection. > I hadn´t much time in testing my Squeezy to hard. > Today i took me some time and tried a bit around. I took one of my > favorite recordings out and tried. It is the Dead Man Walking > So

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-10 Thread Wombat
@P Folding Welcome to the club! I also have better results with the optical connection. I hadn´t much time in testing my Squeezy to hard. Today i took me some time and tried a bit around. I took one of my favorite recordings out and tried. It is the Dead Man Walking Soundtrack i often take for com

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-08 Thread P Floding
mauidan Wrote: > First up should be a new power supplies for your processor and > SB. Yeah, I know. I'm waiting for a supply for the TacT 2.2x (but no result yet), and I have provisionally hooked up my bench-supply to the SB. I put the TacT on a mains-filter, which was a massive improvement. -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-08 Thread mauidan
P Floding Wrote: > Yes, I have yet to experiment with improving digital transmission. First > up are new input transformers. Next probably BNC connectors. > > It would be interesting to see if TosLINK could be improved as well, > however. First up should be a new power supplies for your process

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-08 Thread P Floding
mauidan Wrote: > I've dealt with the noise issues in my digital system and use quality > AES/EBU digital innterconnects. > > I don't know what the jitter levels are from my transports or > processor, but I do know AES/EBU cables sound much better than > bandwidth limited Toslinks. > > In stoc

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-08 Thread mauidan
P Floding Wrote: > Yes, I probably do. But so do many, many others, which was the point of > my advice. Of course, it is easy to make yourself believe that coax > sounds better since you know what jitter figures someone has measured, > at some stage. (Figures which may or may not relate to the ac

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-08 Thread AndersR
Thanx for all the interesting responses. I ended up buying a Black Rhodium Rhythm Coax cable. Sounds GREAT! Anders -- AndersR AndersR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4308 View this thread: htt

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-07 Thread P Floding
mauidan Wrote: > This info was posted a while back: > > "I just purchased a brand new SB3, and a colleague subjected the > digital outputs to a quick jitter measurement using Audio Precision > equipment. Results: > SB3 digital coax out jitter: ~99ps > SB3 digital optical out jitter: ~892ps" > >

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-07 Thread mauidan
P Floding Wrote: > If you have an optical cable, as well as a coax, hook it up with both at > the same time. Switch between them. If you can't hear any difference, > unhook the coax and listen to the optical. Can you now hear any > difference compared to before? If yes, go with the optical! If no

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-06 Thread P Floding
Mike Anderson Wrote: > How do you figure? Figure what? -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 _

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-06 Thread Mike Anderson
P Floding Wrote: > Why all this strange reasoning? > Well, I've come to the conclusion that at least in my system the act of > connecting the SB to the DAC galvanically (electrically) makes a bigger > difference to the sound than the actual path the digital information > takes! So the coax is a b

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-06 Thread opaqueice
Apparently bandwidth limitations in lower grade toslink connections can induce jitter - see the comment at the top of this page: http://www.stereophile.com/reference/1093jitter/index2.html The plot on the previous page shows how this (somewhat surpising, given the naive bandwidth requirements of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-05 Thread dwc
I think Sean has said the coax output has slightly less jitter. -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 ___

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-05 Thread P Floding
AndersR Wrote: > Hi, > > my SB3 should be in the mail box very soon. > > what should i go for when connecting the device, coax or digital? > > does the system come with cables or will i need to purchase them > myself? > > thanx > Anders If you have an optical cable, as well as a coax, hook i

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-05 Thread kanoot
AndersR Wrote: > Ok but what will give me the best sound, the coax or the optical cable? Whichever is in your hand.. the answer is yes, it sounds best. -- kanoot kanoot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.ph

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-05 Thread gusi
Anders, Check the internal dac as well before you buy an external dac. I can't hear the difference between the internal dac and the benchmark on my SB3. cheers Gus -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/me

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-05 Thread Pat Farrell
AndersR wrote: > Pale Blue Ego Wrote: > >>It comes with RCA and ethernet cables. YOu'll need to supply your own >>coax or optical digital cable. > > Ok but what will give me the best sound, the coax or the optical cable? I did a fair amount of testing, my SqueezeBox feeds a Benchmark DAC-1 tha

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-05 Thread AndersR
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: > It comes with RCA and ethernet cables. YOu'll need to supply your own > coax or optical digital cable. Ok but what will give me the best sound, the coax or the optical cable? -- AndersR AndersR's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical

2006-03-05 Thread Pale Blue Ego
It comes with RCA and ethernet cables. YOu'll need to supply your own coax or optical digital cable. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://f