adamslim;137938 Wrote:
> Moshulu, did you build the Monica yourself? Easy? For well under £100
> it looks close to a no-risk play.
I bought the whole board, peopled and tested. All I did was to add a
couple of 1.2Ah batteries, a charger, switches, a capacitor, a voltage
meter, and an enclosur
Phil Leigh;132004 Wrote:
> Please tell me this is a joke?
> If a 2Khz sine wave really looks like that staircase going into a wide
> bandwidth amp it will sound 'orrible! If you think that sounds better
> you've probably developed an affection for that particular type of
> distortion.
Well 2kHz
Here's an interesting review of the Monica2 NOS DAC:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue27/monica_dac.htm
This writeup pretty much corresponds to my impressions of the
inexpensive Monica when used with an SB3. I sincerely recommend this
DAC, especially to those who, unlike the previous poste
moshulu;131906 Wrote:
> For an amateur like me, DACs are mysterious things. After putting
> together my Monica2 (a battery-powered non-oversampling DAC that uses a
> single TDA1545A chip) I fed in a 2 kHZ “sine wave” signal
> from a test CD. I looked at Monica’s analog output, compared
> with t
moshulu;131906 Wrote:
> For an amateur like me, DACs are mysterious things. After putting
> together my Monica2 (a battery-powered non-oversampling DAC that uses a
> single TDA1545A chip) I fed in a 2 kHZ “sine wave” signal
> from a test CD. I looked at Monica’s analog output, compared
> with t
For an amateur like me, DACs are mysterious things. After putting
together my Monica2 (a battery-powered non-oversampling DAC that uses a
single TDA1545A chip) I fed in a 2 kHZ sine wave signal from a test
CD. I looked at Monicas analog output, compared with that of my
garden-variety Denon de
TiredLegs;131804 Wrote:
> There's a school of thought which says that a DAC's op amps make more
> audible difference then its digital chips.
Thats the school I've been attending.
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opaqueice;130436 Wrote:
> Just FYI, there's a school of thought on this which says money spent on
> a DAC is essentially a waste. The reasoning is that all reasonably
> modern DACs sound more or less the same.
I recently purchased a Dodson DAC-263, and have been doing various
comparisons between
ezkcdude;130721 Wrote:
> So, I'm seriously considering buying the board. Yeo said he sells the
> oscillator for $20, which seems too much. What clock did you end up
> using?
I bought the whole board, oscillator included. The total price seemed
reasonable to me. Here are some pictures of my im
moshulu Wrote:
> This is a vote for Monica. I bought the board from diyparadise, added a
> 12V lead-acid battery, connectors, switches, a case, etc. The seller
> (in Indonesia or Malaysia, I can't remember) was very helpful and
> friendly. I find a significant improvement over the SB3 analog o
opaqueice Wrote:
> There are differences, even among amps of the same type.
I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not in the camp who believes
all amps sound the same. I simply posted a perspective that some
people have in response to the notion that some people also believe
that DACs all "so
ezkcdude Wrote:
> A cheap way to go is to think about getting a ready-made kit to build
> yourself. The Monica DAC (diyparadise.com) comes to mind.
This is a vote for Monica. I bought the board from diyparadise, added
a 12V lead-acid battery, connectors, switches, a case, etc. The seller
(in
PhilNYC Wrote:
> FWIW, there's also a school of thought that says most amps (of the same
> type) sound the same too. YMMV...
There are differences, even among amps of the same type. That's
something you can pretty easily test in an audio store - often they
have multiple amps hooked up so you c
Skunk Wrote:
> Not that I don't agree w/ a lot of what you said, but this seems like a
> poor test- ignoring instrument seperation, placement of the sounds
> between or around the speakers, ambience of recording venues, etc..
Actually it's a very good and very revealing test. Please don't be
mis
So, let me get this straight. All DACs and all amps sound the same.
However, it *does* make a huge difference if you do the "63 mute"
trick? Rod Serling would be proud.
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opaqueice Wrote:
> Just FYI, there's a school of thought on this which says money spent on
> a DAC is essentially a waste. The reasoning is that all reasonably
> modern DACs sound more or less the same - witness the fact that the DAC
> chips themselves are extremely inexpensive, which is an indi
opaqueice Wrote:
> You can test it head to head with the SB DAC by sending the same out
> (say the left) from each to the amp and then playing with the balance
> (if you have one) or just putting your head next to each speaker in
> turn. I'll be surprised if you hear much difference, possibly a
fatfred Wrote:
> Have some good reading from thread. Many of us seem to tend towards
> newer dacs up to date components and some belief that chinese dacs are
> providing quite equivalent performance at a good price point.
Just FYI, there's a school of thought on this which says money spent on
a
Have some good reading from thread. Many of us seem to tend towards
newer dacs up to date components and some belief that chinese dacs are
providing quite equivalent performance at a good price point.
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Ok...I have never heard a stock Zhaolu (only tianguis' modded one), so I
was just going on what I had read/heard from others. The modded one
sounds great!
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PhilNYC
PhilNYC Wrote:
> FYI - a guy who has a modded Zhaolu sent me a message saying that the
> mods to entail more than just part upgrades (although not a whole lot
> more). The point still holds, however, that the stock Zhaolu probably
> won't get you much (if any) improvement over the SB's analog ou
Phil:
Not my experience! Even the stock Zhaolu was an improvement over
the SB3 analog output. Now, modded, it's no contest.
Larry
PhilNYC Wrote:
> FYI - a guy who has a modded Zhaolu sent me a message saying that the
> mods to entail more than just part upgrades (although not a whole lot
> mor
fatfred Wrote:
> I am tempted by the Nos dac from derek shek as I think that this may
> bring something to the squeezebox table. What I'm looking for I guess
> is detail and natural presence. I have also been offered a Counterpoint
> dac for slightly more money. Has anyone had experience with the
Another set of nice nonOS dacs coming out of Taiwan. I have the first
generation Renaissance and I find it sufficiently detailed, while also
sounding natural.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TDA1543-Non-OS-Vacuum-Tube-DAC-Renaissance-II_W0QQitemZ120018448077QQcmdZViewItem
-Dan
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FYI - a guy who has a modded Zhaolu sent me a message saying that the
mods to entail more than just part upgrades (although not a whole lot
more). The point still holds, however, that the stock Zhaolu probably
won't get you much (if any) improvement over the SB's analog output...
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mlihl Wrote:
> You might want to try a Chinese DAC such as the Zhaolu or Great March.
> Most use up-to-date converter chips and fine parts. I know of at least
> one person at headfi.org who prefererred the $200 Zhaolu over a Lavry
> and Benchmark DAC...You can't go wrong with a good Chinese DAC I
Struth - you would think I could read the "NZ" in your avatar!
China is not that far away either
Stevo
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stevo Wrote:
> No shortage of DAC's around. I wonder what this one is like;
>
> http://www.perreaux.com/product.php?idp=52
>
> It's from New Zealand so I thought I should mention it although I don't
> own one.
>
> Stevo
Have looked at this previously and it gets a reasonable review
http://ww
No shortage of DAC's around. I wonder what this one is like;
http://www.perreaux.com/product.php?idp=52
It's from New Zealand so I thought I should mention it although I don't
own one.
Stevo
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mlihl Wrote:
> You might want to try a Chinese DAC such as the Zhaolu or Great March.
> Most use up-to-date converter chips and fine parts. I know of at least
> one person at headfi.org who prefererred the $200 Zhaolu over a Lavry
> and Benchmark DAC...You can't go wrong with a good Chinese DAC I
You might want to try a Chinese DAC such as the Zhaolu or Great March.
Most use up-to-date converter chips and fine parts. I know of at least
one person at headfi.org who prefererred the $200 Zhaolu over a Lavry
and Benchmark DAC...You can't go wrong with a good Chinese DAC IMHO.
You can get them
Patrick Dixon Wrote:
> NOS DACs are not know for detail, but they do sound quite natural and
> unfatiguing.
>
> No idea on the other one.
Thanks for that Patrick. I am presently running the Squeezebox into
a early Plinius solid state amp and onto a pair of Rogers ls6a
speakers. Quite an old sc
NOS DACs are not know for detail, but they do sound quite natural and
unfatiguing.
No idea on the other one.
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