Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread p-cubed
I use the DLIII with a PS Audio Digital AC Cord. This cord has been excellent with every digital source I have tried it on, and significantly improved the sound of the DLIII. -- p-cubed p-cubed's Profile: http://forums.sli

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread p-cubed
I am very pleased with a stock DLIII driven by a Duet reciever with Acopian linear PS, over a Creative Cable Green Hornet 2m cable. Very resolving, very musical, not at all strident (and I am quite sensitive to strident gear). The Green Hornet sounds much better in this system than the Stereovox X

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread pryamomimo
Phil! This is a nice sunny day here, so I'm rather going to equip myself with some nice cold ale. I appreciate our discussion as being an exchange of beliefs and opinions, without any pressure to actually persuade the other party. Otherwise, I would suggest vodka as the weapon of choice. Now, as t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread Phil Leigh
pryamomimo;437584 Wrote: > Phil, you believe it's a myth. As you may see, based on my personal > experience with this DAC, NOS tubes in my PrimaLuna, with freshly > soldered circuits during my days of DIY hobby, and even -lately - with > newly purchased Chord speaker cable (replacing Van den Hul

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread NewBuyer
pryamomimo;437584 Wrote: > ...all have observed the effects of cable "break-in", but none of them > so far is able to provide a comprehensive explanation as to the > causes... I wonder if they "observed" these effects through actual measurements, or just with ears-alone listening tests (like I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread pryamomimo
Phil Leigh;437215 Wrote: > Just to be clear, I consider "burn-in" of anything but speakers to be a > complete and utter myth. Just as well IMHO otw we would never have got > to the moon...all those capacitors settling down etc - that would have > thrown the instruments right off :-) > As for thos

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread pryamomimo
Paul, thank you for the detailed answer. The reason I asked was that I _now_ have a completely opposite opinion of my (Cullen-modded) DLIII, however when I first installed it things were very different. It went into my system side-by-side with what was my pet DIY project for almost 2 years. AD DAC

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-02 Thread occam
C_W;437377 Wrote: > Originally Posted by occam > IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL > III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV > > I own both the PS Audio DLIII(unmodded with an SB3) and a Transporter. > I am very happy with the DLIII and w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-02 Thread C_W
Originally Posted by occam IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV I own both the PS Audio DLIII(unmodded with an SB3) and a Transporter. I am very happy with the DLIII and wouldn't hesitate to recommend i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread Phil Leigh
pryamomimo;437187 Wrote: > Whatever you call gradual but consistent improvement in sound quality > over the course of several days after about a day or more of downtime. I > expect you are not the one to bring up listener conditioning (or > whatever it is called). Just to be clear, I consider "b

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread sckramer
pryamomimo;437187 Wrote: > Whatever you call gradual but consistent improvement in sound quality > over the course of several days after about a day or more of downtime. I > expect you are not the one to bring up listener conditioning (or > whatever it is called). hmmm... I havnt unplugged mine

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread pryamomimo
Phil Leigh;437178 Wrote: > That's not burn-in... that's warm-up. Completely different! Whatever you call gradual but consistent improvement in sound quality over the course of several days after about a day or more of downtime. I expect you are not the one to bring up listener conditioning (or w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread Phil Leigh
pryamomimo;437107 Wrote: > Hmm, this really makes me wonder what is the basis of your judgment. > Owning it? Comparing it? To what? Owning a Cullen-modded DLIII for > almost 2 years, I have a completely opposite impression. And I do have > decent stuff to compare it with. > > Only thing, it doe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread pryamomimo
occam;436519 Wrote: > IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL > III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV Hmm, this really makes me wonder what is the basis of your judgment. Owning it? Comparing it? To what? Owning a Cullen-modded DLIII for almost

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-30 Thread Phil Leigh
Shepardos;436689 Wrote: > Thanks for the recommendation!!! > > > > Why is it important to use a 1.5m cable? It's to do with reflections along the tranmission line - there's a well-known article on the Internet about this that has been referenced many times on this forum. 1.5m is the minimum l

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-30 Thread Shepardos
Thanks for the recommendation!!! Phil Leigh;436595 Wrote: > The only mods to an SB2/3 that would really make sense if using an > external DAC are either: > 1) use i2s instead of S/PDIF to connect SB to an 12s-capable DAC > or, better > 2) use a DAC with clock-out and drive the SB clock from that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Phil Leigh
Shepardos;436370 Wrote: > Thanks, > > But do you see any issue with the digital out of the SB2? Does this > really matter because I use an external DAC or should I consider a > Modding of the Digital Output of the SB2? The only mods to an SB2/3 that would really make sense if using an external

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Stratmangler
The only gain you'd get using a Transporter to feed an external DAC is the ability to feed the DAC with actual 24/96 files. Pretty expensive (and probably pointless) exercise. Chris :) -- Stratmangler Stratmangler's Prof

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread NewBuyer
In my opinion: If you do get a Transporter, than like occam says, you would be best served by just using its built-in DAC. If you are going to use an external DAC regardless, then like Rodney says, you should just use your un-modded SB to supply the digital signal. -- NewBuyer ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread occam
IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV -- occam occam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=949 View this threa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney_Gold
What's wrong with the Sb's digital output that makes it require modification? Whats wrong with your sound that you wish to correct? I nave SB3's and a transporter and they both sound identical to my high end transport when using their SPDIF out.. I dunno if the Sb2 uses he same digital circuitry o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Shepardos
Thanks, But do you see any issue with the digital out of the SB2? Does this really matter because I use an external DAC or should I consider a Modding of the Digital Output of the SB2? -- Shepardos Shepardos's Profile: ht

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney_Gold
The TP's dac is better than the SB's one , however I don't feel its the best thing since sliced bread. IMHO the route you should take is to use your SB as a digital front end and fiddle with different stand alone dacs if you arent happy with your sound. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian D

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Shepardos
Hi, I just purchased the ARCAM AVR600 and run the SB2 with this combination, as DAC. Now I want to upgrade the DAC. So I have a basic question: If I feed the FLAC music with SB2 into a DAC than it is not important if I use the Transporter for this or only the SB2? In that case I will bybass the