Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-23 Thread CarlOtto
I got hold of a second hand upsampler about a year ago, a dCS Purcell. I was using that between my SB3 and my DAC (another dCS thing). Initially, I had only the SB3 + the DAC and I did notice a large improvement when adding the upsampler in between. Things I noticed in particular was: Well defin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread adrianh1960
Surely oversampling has to be at a whole multiple of the original sampling frequency and synchronised to the original clock source, so for 44.1kHz, 4x would be 176.4kHz or 8x would be 352.8kHz, hence subject to jitter caused by clocking errors. Upsampling on the other hand uses more advanced sign

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread ezkcdude
Here's a practical difference between the two terms, at least in DAC design: "upsampling" occurs before the DAC chip, typically with an ASRC, while "oversampling" occurs in the DAC chip, itself, right before the analog output stage. Of course, DAC's can have both upsampling and oversampling. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread P Floding
Here is a spec on the Transporter's DAC: http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4396/ak4396_f00e.pdf On page 2 in the block diagram, the two blocks (one for each channel) that says "8X interpolator" is the oversampling FIR filter that does the brick wall filtering in the digital domain.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread P Floding
truckfighters;182195 Wrote: > so can I use transporter for upsampling and "smoothing" my 44,1 kHz 16 > bit content? > > what settings would I have to make in slimserver? The transporter is already oversampling and "smoothing" your 44,1 kHz 16 bit contents. You don't have to do anything. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread truckfighters
so can I use transporter for upsampling and "smoothing" my 44,1 kHz 16 bit content? what settings would I have to make in slimserver? -- truckfighters Transporter -> REDGUM RGASIL -> REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP -> REDGUM LS Cable -> Infinity Kappa 8.1i -> Live! --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread P Floding
cliveb;182179 Wrote: > I spent a while trying to discover the difference between "upsampling" > and "oversampling" in some other thread (possibly here, or maybe on > another forum). As far as I can make out, the two techniques achieve > the same thing (allowing the post-DAC anti-imaging filtering

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread P Floding
ezkcdude;182151 Wrote: > It's not about "adding information". AFAIK, the single advantage > (theoretically, at least) of upsampling is to lessen the harmful > effects of digital "brickwall" filters of modern DAC chips. A lot has > been written on this, and can be found on the web. Sure, but upsa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-21 Thread cliveb
ezkcdude;182151 Wrote: > It's not about "adding information". AFAIK, the single advantage > (theoretically, at least) of upsampling is to lessen the harmful > effects of digital "brickwall" filters of modern DAC chips. I spent a while trying to discover the difference between "upsampling" and "ov

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-20 Thread Eric Carroll
ezkcdude;182151 Wrote: > AFAIK, the single advantage (theoretically, at least) of upsampling is > to lessen the harmful effects of digital "brickwall" filters of modern > DAC chips. Ok, well let me go look into that. But the fact remains that to upsample you have to interpolate, and if there i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-20 Thread ezkcdude
devin;182148 Wrote: > I don't believe there is any reason to think this is true. > > Upsampling will not add information that was not there to begin with. > > Playing the samples back at the same sampling frequency they were > recorded at will produced the cleanest and best signal as far as I c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-20 Thread Eric Carroll
Yes, you can upsample. No it won't improve anything. You cannot add information that was not orginally there. You can guess at it, also called interpolation, but thats just a $20 word for guessing. I wouldn't recommend upsampling to 96 KHz. -- Eric Carroll Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Para

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-20 Thread devin
truckfighters;182052 Wrote: > read this somewhere: > > "With a Transporter, you can also upsample your source files to 96khz, > which is an improvement again." > > is this true and if yes - how do I setup slimserver to do that? > > thank up front! I don't believe there is any reason to think

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TP: Upsample any source up to 96 kHz in slimserver?

2007-02-20 Thread truckfighters
read this somewhere: "With a Transporter, you can also upsample your source files to 96khz, which is an improvement again." is this true and if yes - how do I setup slimserver to do that? thank up front! -- truckfighters Transporter -> REDGUM RGASIL -> REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP -> REDGUM LS Cabl