Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-18 Thread get.amped
SOtM is peddling a couple of Squeezebox compatible products and are clearly hoping to cash in on some USB cable magic: http://www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/usb-cable/ "dCBL-U2 is tuned based on PC which installed tX-USB or tX-USBexp, SATA filter, FAN filter and eABS-100 to ma

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-15 Thread andy_c
For more on Hovland, see the -Stereophile- article "'_Hovland_Calls_it_Quits_' (http://www.stereophile.com/content/hovland-calls-it-quits)" and their '_forum_post_referencing_it_' (http://www.stereophile.com/news/hovland_calls_it_quits/). -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-15 Thread andy_c
Gandhi wrote: > Hilarious! Especially that some people actually defend this bep>! > > How does one avoid becoming (even more) cynical with the accumulation of > knowledge? Please let me know. I have no answer to that, only the workaround of allowing oneself to value the humor one can find

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-15 Thread Gandhi
Julf wrote: > If you find out, please let me know as well! I have a solution. Accumulate knowledge about something else, something positive. I'll take my own advice and stop reading this thread immediately, it makes me way more sad than amused. Best Regards, Gandhi not often enough well reco

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-15 Thread Mnyb
andy_c wrote: > Just ran across the "'_My_Time_At_Hovland_' > (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/227913-my-time-hovland-hp-100-lore.html)" > thread at diyaudio.com. Funny stuff! when you heard it all ,we get tube dowsing :D Sometimes I try to will the next big asteroid down..

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-15 Thread Julf
Gandhi wrote: > How does one avoid becoming (even more) cynical with the accumulation of > knowledge? Please let me know. If you find out, please let me know as well! "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-15 Thread Gandhi
andy_c wrote: > Just ran across the "'_My_Time_At_Hovland_' > (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/227913-my-time-hovland-hp-100-lore.html)" > thread at diyaudio.com. Funny stuff! Hilarious! Especially that some people actually defend this ! How does one avoid becoming (even more) cyn

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-15 Thread Julf
andy_c wrote: > Just ran across the "'_My_Time_At_Hovland_' > (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/227913-my-time-hovland-hp-100-lore.html)" > thread at diyaudio.com. Funny stuff! Excellent! "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'hi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-14 Thread andy_c
Just ran across the "'_My_Time_At_Hovland_' (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/227913-my-time-hovland-hp-100-lore.html)" thread at diyaudio.com. Funny stuff! andy_c's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-11 Thread swhite58
JJZolx wrote: > Where's the "Everything sounds the same" forum when you really need it? Yes, definitely required. The Axiom Audio forum would qualify for that. They're really nice guys though. Ubuntu file server ->Dell Laptop with Squeezelite->HRT Music Streamer II USB DAC>NAD C320BEE->Usher

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-10 Thread Mnyb
TheLastMan wrote: > Ah, but it makes all those ones so much more, er.. "onesie" and the > zeros are Quantum Tunnelled, which makes them so much more "zerotic". > > These guys are truly deluded and need to get a life. A heavy metal > concert, front row, next to the *really* big boxes and with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-10 Thread TheLastMan
induna wrote: > OK, I just love this one: > > " Next, we Quantum Tunnel the transformer’s primary wind in the > direction of signal (electron) flow, followed by the secondary wind, > again in the direction of signal flow." > > Disregarding the nonsense of 'Quantum Tunneling' (I guess if somethi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-10 Thread ralphpnj
induna wrote: > Disregarding the nonsense of 'Quantum Tunneling' (I guess if something > is capitalized it must be true.) Don't forget that in addition to the capitalization there is also the use of the very holy word "Quantum". A double whammy! The use of the word "quantum" implies the followi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-10 Thread induna
Grumpy Bob wrote: > Does this count as quantum fruitloopery? > http://www.audiostream.com/content/synergistic-research-galileo-le-usb-cable > $2000 per meter USB cable with "quantum tunnelling". The comments in > response to a couple of sane commenters are amusing too. > > Robert OK, I just lov

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-10 Thread ralphpnj
Grumpy Bob wrote: > Does this count as quantum fruitloopery? > http://www.audiostream.com/content/synergistic-research-galileo-le-usb-cable > $2000 per meter USB cable with "quantum tunnelling". The comments in > response to a couple of sane commenters are amusing too. > > Robert High end USB c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-10 Thread Grumpy Bob
Does this count as quantum fruitloopery? http://www.audiostream.com/content/synergistic-research-galileo-le-usb-cable $2000 per meter USB cable with "quantum tunnelling". The comments in response to a couple of sane commenters are amusing too. Robert Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-09 Thread bonze
lrossouw wrote: > The further down you go on that page the more wacky it gets. The last > couple of products include: > - Flying Saucers for Windows > - Frog Jump in Water Sound Tweak - (Bowls of Water). Using ordinary > water. $29, includes instructions + 4 plastic bowls. > - CD Re-Animator Mul

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-09 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: > Another top notch fruitlooper also on par with Mr. Belt is Geoff Kait of > Machina Dynamica (http://www.machinadynamica.com/). The Brilliant > Pebbles are truly a classic. > > By the way, the Stereophile forum (or rather what remains of the forum) > is filled with posts by this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-09 Thread lrossouw
ralphpnj wrote: > Another top notch fruitlooper also on par with Mr. Belt is Geoff Kait of > Machina Dynamica (http://www.machinadynamica.com/). The Brilliant > Pebbles are truly a classic. > > By the way, the Stereophile forum (or rather what remains of the forum) > is filled with posts by this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-08 Thread ralphpnj
Another top notch fruitlooper also on par with Mr. Belt is Geoff Kait of Machina Dynamica (http://www.machinadynamica.com/). The Brilliant Pebbles are truly a classic. By the way, the Stereophile forum (or rather what remains of the forum) is filled with posts by this charlatan, which is perhaps

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-07 Thread induna
I'll say it again. P.T. Barnum vastly underestimated the human capacity for credulity. The fact that any of these people can sell anything, let alone have passionate followers of their products, clearly demonstrates how vanishingly thin the veneer of scientific understanding actually is for many p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-07 Thread Gandhi
jimbobvfr400 wrote: > The last comment on that article does have a point though :) :) Best Regards, Gandhi not often enough well recorded and mastered cds *|* dbpoweramp with accuraterip *|* flac *|* fanless asrock z77e-itx intel i5-3570t *|* ubuntu 12.04.1 lts 32-bit *|* lms 7.8.0 *|* brute

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-07 Thread jimbobvfr400
Gandhi wrote: > After reading the interview in Stereophile, > http://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-112, where Belt explains > the process of finding things that improves the sound, I don't think > Belt is kidding and I don't think he's making any money either. Truly > sad story. > The

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-07 Thread Gandhi
After reading the interview in Stereophile, http://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-112, where Belt explains the process of finding things that improves the sound, I don't think Belt is kidding and I don't think he's making any money either. Truly sad story. I can only put him in the same c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-07 Thread Apesbrain
Mnyb wrote: > Ah the chief fruit looper is still around/alive > http://pwbelectronics.co.uk Peter W Belt :) -First time I experienced Belt treatments. Had no clue what Carol was up to as I was in the other room, though I did know she was playing around with something audio. She asked me to come i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-07 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: > Sorry there is actually the quantum clip > http://pwbelectronics.co.uk/product/quantum/quantum.html :) :) > Surely his stuff is a joke? An alligator clip with a piece of wire attached. Really? I love that one needs to treat BOTH sides of a door. "It is not necessary to always g

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-07 Thread Gandhi
Mnyb wrote: > Sorry there is actually the quantum clip > http://pwbelectronics.co.uk/product/quantum/quantum.html :) :) > > Another candidate is his red x pen Good stuff. Reeaally good stuff. But I have to wonder if he makes any money at all. Is it actually possible for someone - anyone - in t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-06 Thread Mnyb
Sorry there is actually the quantum clip http://pwbelectronics.co.uk/product/quantum/quantum.html :) :) Another candidate is his red x pen Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP520

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-06 Thread Mnyb
Ah the chief fruit looper is still around/alive http://pwbelectronics.co.uk Peter W Belt :) The products are hard to describe it have ranged from tweezers to pinch your CDs with and magic paper clips to hang in your curtains and specialy treated spiratube to wrap around your cables and the mystic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-06 Thread ralphpnj
c3p0 wrote: > After 6 seconds of treatment by the LP Energizer, the record will carry > a PVA Field (Proton Vibration Alignment Field) that will last for 120 > minutes. Once the record is placed on the record player turntable, the > entire signal path and equipment in the AV system within 1 meter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-06 Thread c3p0
After 6 seconds of treatment by the LP Energizer, the record will carry a PVA Field (Proton Vibration Alignment Field) that will last for 120 minutes. Once the record is placed on the record player turntable, the entire signal path and equipment in the AV system within 1 meter of the record player

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-04 Thread Mnyb
probedb wrote: > I'm not sure if this one has been posted yet: > > http://www.cyrusaudio.com/faq-what-is-servo-evolution > > I asked them how they did their testing etc etc and oddly enough, no > response ;) But why not just do as My Meridian disc spinner actually use a Rom drive speed up the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-04 Thread ralphpnj
probedb wrote: > I'm not sure if this one has been posted yet: > > http://www.cyrusaudio.com/faq-what-is-servo-evolution > > I asked them how they did their testing etc etc and oddly enough, no > response ;) While many of their assertions are a little far fetched at least the overall concept o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-04 Thread probedb
I'm not sure if this one has been posted yet: http://www.cyrusaudio.com/faq-what-is-servo-evolution I asked them how they did their testing etc etc and oddly enough, no response ;) 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/probedb)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-01 Thread mlsstl
Audiophiles could generate more than their fair share of eligible entries for the annual Bulwer-Lytton bad prose contest. (In 1830, Edward George Bulwer-Lytton opened his book with the infamous phrase "It was a dark and stormy night") However, they seem to be sending their manuscripts to aud

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-06-01 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: > ... goes to Helmut Brinkmann of Brinkmann Audio GmbH, manufacturer of > the Balance 2 vinyl player and RöNt II power supply. > > I happened to read the review in Hi-Fi News (the only non-pro audio mag > I still subscribe to - they used to be pretty good, with decent > measurements

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-31 Thread Mnyb
Julf wrote: > ... goes to Helmut Brinkmann of Brinkmann Audio GmbH, manufacturer of > the Balance 2 vinyl player and RöNt II power supply. > > I happened to read the review in Hi-Fi News (the only non-pro audio mag > I still subscribe to - they used to be pretty good, with decent > measurements

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-31 Thread Julf
Wombat wrote: > RöNt = Tube-PSU Ah! Should have figured that out... "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-31 Thread Wombat
Julf wrote: > > It is german. > > Röhre = Tube > Netzteil = PSU (short form Nt) > > RöNt = Tube-PSU > > It is that simple. Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-31 Thread Julf
... goes to Helmut Brinkmann of Brinkmann Audio GmbH, manufacturer of the Balance 2 vinyl player and RöNt II power supply. I happened to read the review in Hi-Fi News (the only non-pro audio mag I still subscribe to - they used to be pretty good, with decent measurements for the "hi-res" record r

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-30 Thread Julf
darrenyeats wrote: > Julf, I think we agree about what the study involved and what its > conclusions were. I'm just saying the result was no surprise! I agree. But a lot of scientific research involves actually confirming things that come as no surprise to anyone. "To try to judge the real fr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-30 Thread darrenyeats
Julf, I think we agree about what the study involved and what its conclusions were. I'm just saying the result was no surprise! Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-57

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-30 Thread Julf
darrenyeats wrote: > For example, it's obvious someone who is against vaccines is very likely > to be distrustful of the motives of the establishment and the health > industry. Just like someone who believes in UFOs is very likely to be distrustful of the motives of the establishment and the sci

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-30 Thread darrenyeats
lrossouw wrote: > > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/mariakonnikova/2014/05/why-do-people-persist-in-believing-things-that-just-arent-true.html Sorry, rant mode on! As usual, nothing new to be learned from such psychological studies. Next, people who get burned have a pre-disposition not t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-30 Thread Julf
lrossouw wrote: > What is interesting to me is that the effect works both ways. Peoples > beliefs (good or bad) stop them from seeing/accepting the truth. 'Confirmation Bias' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_Bias) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-30 Thread Mnyb
lrossouw wrote: > I hope I do not stir with this New Yorker article but the thoughts seem > very relevant. I do not want to have a debate about something else( > e.g. whether the earth rotates the sun or not) but this is very good > explanation why people do this kind of thing. > > What is int

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-30 Thread lrossouw
I hope I do not stir with this New Yorker article but the thoughts seem very relevant. I do not want to have a debate about something else( e.g. whether the earth rotates the sun or not) but this is very good explanation why people do this kind of thing. What is interesting to me is that the ef

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-28 Thread Julf
lrossouw wrote: > It does become trickier when the opposing views lacks all scientific > method. I'm happy to accept that you subjectively find something > "better" or "suitable" but if you want to say that it's objectively > better you are going to have to prove it. Agree. Just like there is p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-28 Thread Julf
bonze wrote: > So he named his software after you. That's either very sweet or very > creepy. Indeed. And while I think it is an honor to have softẃare named after you, it is somewhat moderated by the usefulness (or rather lack of it) of this particular piece of software. At least SBGK und

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-28 Thread bonze
Julf wrote: > Indeed. All you did was state "please ban this troll, I won't post until > he is". It is not your fault that your followers and as a result the > moderators actually headed that message :)So he named his software after you. > That's either very sweet or very creepy. LMS Vers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-28 Thread lrossouw
It seems to me that people with particular views (including those that some software v14.2 sounds better than v14.1) have the ability to lock themselves in a virtual room with others that share the same views and reinforce those views, by ejecting those with opposing views. I hope that: a) I do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-27 Thread Julf
SBGK wrote: > It wasn't my fault you got banned from computer audiophile and tirna > hifi, but thanks for the shout out. Indeed. In no way your fault that as soon as I made my first posting, you stated that you refused to participate in the forum as long as I was a member. True. "To try to j

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-25 Thread Gandhi
Audio Connoisseur? "The sound of the Ueber-Thicke mains cables has a distinct hint of black currant and toffee, with just a smidge of burnt rubber. Exactly the right amount to accompany gentle muzak after a well-composed meal of ducklings with stuffed nightingale tongues. (Cash only.)" Best Re

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2014-05-25 Thread jimbobvfr400
OK I'm happy to be an Audio Enthusiast, I like that Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showt

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2014-05-25 Thread get.amped
Perhaps Audio Enthusiast is more appropriate. My girlfriend thinks I'm picky. I say I'm discerning. Many of my friends and family think I'm a bit obsessive. I know it's more than a bit... Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.7.3 -> Logitech Squeezebox Classic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-25 Thread garym
jimbobvfr400 wrote: > Can we not reclaim the phrase Audiophile please. I consider myself to be > one in so much as I care about my music sounding good, in this age of > seeming low fidelity and most folks being happy with a standalone > airplay or Bluetooth speaker I would say I'm definitely an A

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-25 Thread jimbobvfr400
Can we not reclaim the phrase Audiophile please. I consider myself to be one in so much as I care about my music sounding good, in this age of seeming low fidelity and most folks being happy with a standalone airplay or Bluetooth speaker I would say I'm definitely an Audiophile in comparison. Most

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2014-05-24 Thread ralphpnj
SBGK wrote: > ralph, hope your health isn't affected by the constant stream of bile > you spout forth. It's only hifi. Perhaps you need another hobby. Quite right: it is only hifi but then again it is very representative of the overall level of complete and utter dishonesty that exists at all le

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2014-05-24 Thread SBGK
ralphpnj wrote: > Julf - you are banned from Computer Audiophile - good work and > congratulations! > > There is one thing about Computer Audiophile that I admire - the site's > founder (whose name escapes me) started out as just another audiophile > but thanks to the unrelenting kowtowing to th

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2014-05-24 Thread Mnyb
darrenyeats wrote: > Mynb, agreed, I didn't mean to imply it was universally true, it's just > my modus operandi. Ok :) no problem . Meridian and Linn uses them for example . I have a feeling that they might actually be defacto standard very soon ( if not already ) -

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2014-05-24 Thread darrenyeats
Mnyb wrote: > > IMHO it's a myth that it is always smps power supplies that dirties the > network , linear supplies can do this too and some smps supplies are > decently filtered and do not pose a problem . > A bad power supply can polute the mains . > Mynb, agreed, I didn't mean to imply it wa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-24 Thread ralphpnj
SBGK wrote: > It wasn't my fault you got banned from computer audiophile and tirna > hifi, but thanks for the shout out. Julf - you are banned from Computer Audiophile - good work and congratulations! There is one thing about Computer Audiophile that I admire - the site's founder (whose name e

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2014-05-24 Thread darrenyeats
ralphpnj wrote: > Just to clarify: by "ring layout" you mean circuit. ie. the outlets and > switches that are grouped together on one circuit which runs back to the > fuse or circuit breaker back at the main electrical panel. > Yeah, for example it's not worth filtering 3 three items if the ring

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2014-05-24 Thread SBGK
Julf wrote: > SBGK's 'MQN Player' > (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/visual-studio-2012-c-and-wasapi-minimalist-player-15401/), > where minor differences in the player software make night and day > differences to the sound. > > 'Audiophile solder' > (http://www.soniccraft.com/prod

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2014-05-24 Thread Mnyb
darrenyeats wrote: > Yes Ralph, it's fair to describe these as my perceptions and experience > and not as a statement of fact to be taken as gospel. Also, when it > comes to power-related stuff, I know there are many different opinions, > experiences - and even technical views. The good thing is,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-24 Thread ralphpnj
darrenyeats wrote: > Yes Ralph, it's fair to describe these as my perceptions and experience > and not as a statement of fact to be taken as gospel. Also, when it > comes to power-related stuff, I know there are many different opinions, > experiences - and even technical views. The good thing is,

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2014-05-24 Thread darrenyeats
Yes Ralph, it's fair to describe these as my perceptions and experience and not as a statement of fact to be taken as gospel. Also, when it comes to power-related stuff, I know there are many different opinions and experiences. The good thing is, filters and lampless/switchless extensions are pret

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2014-05-24 Thread ralphpnj
darrenyeats wrote: > Hi Ralph, > 1. The cumulative effect of all the steps I described is significant, > and I would be surprised if I couldn't hear it blind (even though I've > to proved myself to have been fooled on past occasions, so I am wary). I > have been distinctly unsatisfied with the so

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2014-05-24 Thread darrenyeats
Hi Ralph, 1. The cumulative effect of all the steps I described is significant, and I would be surprised if I couldn't hear it blind (even though I've to proved myself to have been fooled on past occasions, so I am wary). I have been distinctly unsatisfied with the sound on two occasions since the

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2014-05-24 Thread ralphpnj
darrenyeats wrote: > I agree. The issue is somewhat dependent on your supply and your > components, so I would expect experiences to differ. > > More of my present thinking here: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101270-Need-a-little-help-from-the-experts&p=775845&viewfull=1#post775

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2014-05-24 Thread darrenyeats
get.amped wrote: > > There is some basis for power conditioning. I agree. The issue is somewhat dependent on your supply and your components, so I would expect experiences to differ. Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-23 Thread get.amped
ralphpnj wrote: > Today's entry: > > http://www.shunyata.com/index.php/power-cables-footer/55-venom-series/402-venom-digital?ModPagespeed=noscript#!venom_digital_body2 > > The main page has some really good technical double talk on it along > with some nifty little graphs. It all sounds so scie

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-23 Thread ralphpnj
Today's entry: http://www.shunyata.com/index.php/power-cables-footer/55-venom-series/402-venom-digital?ModPagespeed=noscript#!venom_digital_body2 The main page has some really good technical double talk on it along with some nifty little graphs. It all sounds so scientific and reasonable even th

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2014-05-22 Thread SlimChances
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2014-05-22 Thread ralphpnj
ReValveiT wrote: > This little beauty has to be my favourite: > > http://www.bluehorizonideas.com/cgi-bin/products.pl?id=26 > > Yep, that's a cable burn-in device. You are reading correctly and you > haven't just woken up in some loony alternate reality. Apparently, it > 'burns in your cables f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-22 Thread ReValveiT
This little beauty has to be my favourite: http://www.bluehorizonideas.com/cgi-bin/products.pl?id=26 Yep, that's a cable burn-in device. You are reading correctly and you haven't just woken up in some loony alternate reality. Apparently, it 'burns in your cables far better than music can!' (!?!)

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2014-05-19 Thread Gandhi
I have also noticed that if one states an "opinion", which might concern something scientifically undisputable, it's not worth anything without a reference (a link). Any opinion however, which has a link pointing to whatever crazy source one might dig up, is considered valid. http://kinderaerzte.

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2014-05-19 Thread ralphpnj
darrenyeats wrote: > Don't worry Ralph I do agree with 90% of your views - I hope you'll > accept me as a 90% good guy! That's good to hear. Isn't funny how stating scientific fact is now considered a "view", as in "it is my view that water at standard atmospheric pressure boils at 100 degrees C

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-19 Thread darrenyeats
ralphpnj wrote: > > Shame on you Darren or maybe shame on me since I always thought you were > one of the good guys. Don't worry Ralph I do agree with 90% of your views - I hope you'll accept me as a 90% good guy! Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ http://www.amazon.co.uk/

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2014-05-19 Thread andy_c
Pretty crazy stuff! The Windham hill CDs sound great to me, but I don't like most of the artists they had. I may get razzed for this, but I will admit to liking Michael Hedges. BTW, the Fruitlooper General has determined that reading audiophool forums can be hazardous to your sanity. :D -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-19 Thread induna
andy_c wrote: > One of my favorite posts over there is '_this_one_by_Cookie_Marenco_' > (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f13-audiophile-downloads/sound-better-uncompressed-downloaded-files-6158/#post70764), > in which she claims that sound quality of music files degrades when sent > by email, a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-19 Thread JackOfAll
ralphpnj wrote: > > Sure for most of us audio is a hobby but for lots of other people, > especially people making crazy claims, audio is a BUSINESS. I see that. I can't help but feel sorry for the people (and their wallets) who "buy" into this crap! --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-19 Thread ralphpnj
JackOfAll wrote: > Flippin' heck! What is wrong with these people? ;) There's nothing wrong with them. All they are doing is working one of the necessary steps of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) since once one establishes FUD then one can sell something that removes the FUD. So while I don't k

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-19 Thread JackOfAll
andy_c wrote: > One of my favorite posts over there is '_this_one_by_Cookie_Marenco_' > (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f13-audiophile-downloads/sound-better-uncompressed-downloaded-files-6158/#post70764), > in which she claims that sound quality of music files degrades when sent > by email, a

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2014-05-18 Thread Zombie
...when driven within their limitations. Proven in a blind test in the 70s. Zombie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101564 __

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2014-05-17 Thread ralphpnj
JJZolx wrote: > Where's the "Everything sounds the same" forum when you really need it? There's a huge gap between "Everything sounds the same" and trying to focus on things can actually sound different. For example not one of the audio naysayers on this forum has ever claimed that all loudspeak

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2014-05-17 Thread bakker_be
andy_c wrote: > One of my favorite posts over there is '_this_one_by_Cookie_Marenco_' > (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f13-audiophile-downloads/sound-better-uncompressed-downloaded-files-6158/#post70764), > in which she claims that sound quality of music files degrades when sent > by email, a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-17 Thread Julf
andy_c wrote: > One of my favorite posts over there is '_this_one_by_Cookie_Marenco_' > (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f13-audiophile-downloads/sound-better-uncompressed-downloaded-files-6158/#post70764), > in which she claims that sound quality of music files degrades when sent > by email, a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-17 Thread andy_c
Julf wrote: > In that case, I nominate all of Computer Audiophool. One of my favorite posts over there is '_this_one_by_Cookie_Marenco_' (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f13-audiophile-downloads/sound-better-uncompressed-downloaded-files-6158/#post70764), in which she claims that sound quality

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-17 Thread darrenyeats
JJZolx wrote: > Where's the "Everything sounds the same" forum when you really need it? Touche. Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB Touch --

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2014-05-17 Thread Mnyb
foxx wrote: > I'd like to add the whole of the NAIM forum: > > 'http://http://forums.naimaudio.com/forums' > (http://forums.naimaudio.com/forums) Julf wrote: > In that case, I nominate all of Computer Audiophool. The may be quantum entangled ! all kinds off pseudo knowledge is propagated emid

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-17 Thread Julf
foxx wrote: > I'd like to add the whole of the NAIM forum In that case, I nominate all of Computer Audiophool. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul

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2014-05-17 Thread foxx
I'd like to add the whole of the NAIM forum: 'http://http://forums.naimaudio.com/forums' (http://forums.naimaudio.com/forums) foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-16 Thread JJZolx
Where's the "Everything sounds the same" forum when you really need it? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101564 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-16 Thread ralphpnj
andy_c wrote: > Well, since I left out the word "quantum" in my last post, I'll try to > make up for that by linking to the '_Synergistic_Research_Quantum_Fuse_' > (http://www.synergisticresearch.com/featured/new-category-synergistic-research-quantum-fuses-furutech-hifituningsupreme-fuses/) > pag

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-16 Thread andy_c
Well, since I left out the word "quantum" in my last post, I'll try to make up for that by linking to the '_Synergistic_Research_Quantum_Fuse_' (http://www.synergisticresearch.com/featured/new-category-synergistic-research-quantum-fuses-furutech-hifituningsupreme-fuses/) page. :) > Synergistic Re

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-16 Thread ralphpnj
andy_c wrote: > Sounds like fun! :D > > How about the '_Synergistic_Research_Tranquility_Base_' > (http://www.audiostream.com/content/synergistic-research-tranquility-base)? > > The author makes use of one of my favorite memes of the audiophool > press. I call it the "feigned skepticism meme".

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-16 Thread andy_c
ralphpnj wrote: > On the other hand, in the world of high end audio things (devices, > ideas, beliefs, etc.) that are quite clearly fruitloopy come along on an > almost daily basis and so I'm launching this official list so that we > can keep track of the all the audio fruitloopery out there. So

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2014-05-16 Thread Mnyb
Julf wrote: > SBGK's 'MQN Player' > (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/visual-studio-2012-c-and-wasapi-minimalist-player-15401/), > where minor differences in the player software make night and day > differences to the sound sadly this can actually be true :( note that I read the wo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List

2014-05-16 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: > SBGK's 'MQN Player' > (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/visual-studio-2012-c-and-wasapi-minimalist-player-15401/), > where minor differences in the player software make night and day > differences to the sound. Note: bonus points for using the word "quantum". So your

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