Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-04 Thread callesoroe
bhaagensen wrote: > I'm pretty sure some of the WiMP flacs are different from my/the > CD-version. As to how this could be, I think you gave a fairly good > summary. Would be nice to have the opinions of others who could for > example have another "pressing" of The Man in Black, if such exists. S

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-04 Thread Peiter
Hi Again "Default adjustment for remote streams" set to 0. This might do it I cannot with certainty say there is a difference in SPL as I could before. It would be nice if others could confirm by doing the little track test as I did. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-04 Thread Mnyb
Peiter wrote: > It is easy to hear the difference in bass (my example), not as easy to > tell in the mids/Highs ... maybe less here also. > No replay-gain. > I'm running a 3 days old version (7.8) of LMS. > "Default adjustment for remote streams" is -5. I'll set it to 0 (maybe > this is it). > I'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-04 Thread Peiter
paulster wrote: > I may be wrong but I believe there may be more than one master for this. > Something in he back of my mind makes me think there was a remaster. > > I've just taken a quick look at dr.loudness-war.info and that also seems > to imply two different masters by the different dynamic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-04 Thread Peiter
Mnyb wrote: > Less spl overall or only in the bass ? if the spl goes down it gets > apparent in the deep bass first as you stop hearing that . > > Do you use replay-gain at all in your squeezebox ? (it in the player > settings in the web-UI) . > > Do you run one of the later version of the serv

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-03 Thread paulster
Peiter wrote: > Patricia Barber - Companion (from 1999). I will test if there is any > diff. between local FLAC versus WiMP FLAC. I may be wrong but I believe there may be more than one master for this. Something in he back of my mind makes me think there was a remaster. I've just taken a quick

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-03 Thread Mnyb
Peiter wrote: > The track "Let It Rain". After 2:37 minutes and the next 5 seconds, it's > easy to hear a difference in SPL in the bass. (To hear that, your gear > must be able to deliver enough SPL from ~ 30 Hz). WiMP delivers *less* > SPL compared to my own FLAC version of that track. > > So w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-03 Thread Peiter
Peiter wrote: > Patricia Barber - Companion (from 1999). I will test if there is any > diff. between local FLAC versus WiMP FLAC. The track "Let It Rain". After 2:37 minutes and the next 5 seconds, it's easy to hear a difference in SPL in the bass. (To hear that, your gear must be able to delive

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-03 Thread Peiter
Patricia Barber - Companion (from 1999). I will test if there is any diff. between local FLAC versus WiMP FLAC. Peiter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread Mnyb
Yes i Will probably at some piont in the near future try wimp . Don't get me wrong i do like the idea . Spotify is far from perfect so maybe the completion offers a better overall experience . But HIFI branded streaming it would take more then just flac files to get it rigth . But let's here f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread bhaagensen
Mnyb wrote: > > But I do think that wimp hifi should mandate some form of "pedigree" > ,some kind of documentation from the content providers . > What kind of master is this ? is it from a previusly aviable release ( > if so which one ) or is it "specially mastered" for streaming services > ? >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread bhaagensen
I don't use replay-gain (although my files are tagged). Not sure how it works with streaming and replay-gain client-side. Of course it could be that (as you indicate Mnyb) replay-gain is applied server side. The test you suggest should give some hints - will look into it... But good ideas. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: > > Any insiders on this forum that knows if there is mastering for > "Internet streaming" or if I just made than one up > Yes I should get the 24h free trial in the weekend , to see for myself > :) Good question. My first reaction is "no, how could there be...too much trouble". Bu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread Mnyb
An interesting test would be to test a record known to be hdcd if you have a hdcd capable DAC . ( but these are getting a bit old fashioned ) . Re suggestions of volume adjustment or compression , does everything sound at the same level when building a wimp hifi playlist ? Or are the level differ

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread garym
bhaagensen wrote: > I'm pretty sure some of the WiMP flacs are different from my/the > CD-version. As to how this could be, I think you gave a fairly good > summary. Would be nice to have the opinions of others who could for > example have another "pressing" of The Man in Black, if such exists. S

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread bhaagensen
I'm pretty sure some of the WiMP flacs are different from my/the CD-version. As to how this could be, I think you gave a fairly good summary. Would be nice to have the opinions of others who could for example have another "pressing" of The Man in Black, if such exists. So I think you kind of gave

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread garym
bhaagensen wrote: > No takers? Anyone else tried the comparison with anything else? Should > be interesting for many of us, eh? I'm not in a country that can access wimp. But if they are truly streaming FLAC files, why should there be any difference. Yes, there are different masterings of albums

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-02 Thread bhaagensen
bhaagensen wrote: > > In case you're interested: Do you have Cash's, The Man Comes Around? > Mind giving the title track a spin and compare it to one on WiMP. Won't > give you my take, but its "interesting" ;) No takers? Anyone else tried the comparison with anything else? Should be interesting

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-01 Thread pkfox
OK thanks to you both. When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson CD's -> EAC/Grip -> ReadyNas NV -> CAT5 -> Sonicwall -> TP -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me :-) pkfox's Profile: http://f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-01 Thread garym
Music rights all differ by country. Same sort of country restrictions on pandora, spotify,etc. really a mess in an interconnected world. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-01 Thread bhaagensen
Its unfortunate and I dont know any specifics, but suppose its due to IPR on the material. The law has pehaps not followed the development in technology. iTunes/Netflix/Rhapsody/Spotify/HBO/Pandora/Quobus/etc/etc all have the same issues albeit dealt with in different ways.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-01 Thread pkfox
garym wrote: > Not sure where you are, but this will not work in the United States. The > countries it does work in will also require a paid subscription to WIMP. > There is a WIMP plugin installed in WebGUI > Settings > Plugins (but > again, won't work in many countries) > > edit: > WiMP IS CUR

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-01 Thread garym
pkfox wrote: > Hi there, how do you enable Wimp in a Transporter ? Not sure where you are, but this will not work in the United States. The countries it does work in will also require a paid subscription to WIMP. There is a WIMP plugin installed in WebGUI > Settings > Plugins (but again, won't w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-12-01 Thread pkfox
bhaagensen wrote: > Except from trying for the sake of trying I've actually never seriously > used smart gain (I assume thats what you mean) settings. Maybe I > should. > > In case you're interested: Do you have Cash's, The Man Comes Around? > Mind giving the title track a spin and compare it to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-11-30 Thread bhaagensen
Except from trying for the sake of trying I've actually never seriously used smart gain (I assume thats what you mean) settings. Maybe I should. In case you're interested: Do you have Cash's, The Man Comes Around? Mind giving the title track a spin and compare it to one on WiMP. Won't give you my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-11-30 Thread callesoroe
bhaagensen wrote: > Those of you using WiMP hifi. Thoughts on the sound quality on WiMP > hifi? Compared to my flac-rips I think their absolutely on par. In fact. > I'm wondering if sometimes the mastering is a bit quieter? Anyone know > anything about the origins of the files that WiMP ate using

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiMP soundq

2013-11-29 Thread bhaagensen
Those of you using WiMP hifi. Thoughts on the sound quality on WiMP hifi? Compared to my flac-rips I think their absolutely on par. In fact. I'm wondering if sometimes the mastering is a bit quieter? Anyone know anything about the origins of the files that WiMP ate using? Or maybe you have similar