Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-19 Thread TiredLegs
In addition to my SB3, I also have in the same room a computer with an S/PDIF output on the motherboard. Using an outboard DAC/headphone amp (Grace m902) and high end headphones (Grado GS-1000), I queued up the same playlist on both the SB3 and the PC (WinAmp) and switched the DAC back and forth a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-17 Thread anko
Hi Guys, Thanks a lot for all your good advices! I think I'll stick to the SB3! Anko -- anko anko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-16 Thread muski
JohnSwenson;215108 Wrote: > Most of the built in sound on motherboards use an AC97 codec which is > fixed to 48KHz sample rate. Good point. I was only able to get a bit-perfect stream from foobar2000 because I was using an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card that supported 44.1khz playback sample

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-16 Thread JohnSwenson
Most of the built in sound on motherboards use an AC97 codec which is fixed to 48KHz sample rate. Thus if you are playing 44.1 data its going to be resampled by the software on the PC. So no it won't be bit perfect. I've measured the jitter (actually taken the spectrum on the clock) on several m

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-16 Thread muski
Another issue is what the software player and PC sound apps & drivers might be doing to the playback stream along the way. It's been a while since I played with Softsqueeze, but when I tried it a few years ago I was not getting bit-perfect playback (tested by playing a 5.1 DTS file into a surroun

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-16 Thread ceejay
jaysung;214795 Wrote: > I presume that your mainboard and the SB alike have optical digital > outputs. So there should not be any electrical influence ones the > signal has passed the optoelectrical converter... > Not so... the optical digital outputs are directly driven by electrical-to-optica

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-15 Thread jaysung
I presume that your mainboard and the SB alike have optical digital outputs. So there should not be any electrical influence ones the signal has passed the optoelectrical converter... Anyway, I THINK it is all voodoo. A word which I come to like since I got myself into the very expensive hobby of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-15 Thread ceejay
No, its not always the same. Although the sequence of 1s and 0s ought to be the same, this has to be represented by an analog electrical or optical signal which can have timing or other imperfections. These imperfections may or may not trouble the device that is receiving the signal: a signal wi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-15 Thread anko
Thanks Ceejay, So the electrical noise of the computer may disturb the s/pdf signal sent to the DAC. But, is it true that a s/pdf signal itself is always "the same", independant of the source(I'm not technically educated as you might have guessed)? Thanks, Anko -- anko ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-13 Thread ceejay
Well, there is a reason why there *might* be a difference - the electrical noise within a computer case is generally very high, and could easily do nasty things to the level of jitter on the digital output. Whether thats important in your case will depend on the ability of the Arcam's DAC to reje

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-13 Thread anko
Hi, I've got a SB3 and I'm very satisfied. But, I just replaced my whole stereo to the room where my computer is. And I bought a new motherboard (Asus P5B) with onboard audio and a s/pdf output. So far, I connected the SB3 via toslink to an Arcam DAC. Now I can also connect the Arcam directly