Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread mswlogo
Phil Leigh;377937 Wrote: > I've noticed a recent trend of repeated claims for FLAC vs WAV > streaming. I think it really is about time we nailed this once and for > all. Streaming WAV is not an option for me since the high-res > transcoding breaks (at least I think it does - not sure with the rec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread jmourik
Vincent;378117 Wrote: > ...this might indicate that the two differs in the amount of input > jitter they generate. This then would also be applicable to different cables? For example, at MusicDirect they are selling this digital cable with their ipod dock packages: http://www.musicdirect.com/prod

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread Vincent
itz;377810 Wrote: > At the risk of being declared the fool on the hill, I have some > questions/statements. > > To my ears in my rigg (with external dac): > > 1. Squeezecenter on Nas (Synology 107+128) sounds a lot better than on > puter with XP. > > 2. Flac's streamed as wav sounds better the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread Vincent
dlhamby;377847 Wrote: > Sample jitter is interesting. From my introduction to digital signal > processing in college, jitter (non-uniform sampling in geek speak) > introduces noise in the reconstructed audio. A classmate did his > masters thesis on the subject deriving the effects of nonuniform >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread Deaf Cat
Phil Leigh;377937 Wrote: > I've noticed a recent trend of repeated claims for FLAC vs WAV > streaming. I think it really is about time we nailed this once and for > all. Streaming WAV is not an option for me since the high-res > transcoding breaks (at least I think it does - not sure with the rec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread Phil Leigh
I've noticed a recent trend of repeated claims for FLAC vs WAV streaming. I think it really is about time we nailed this once and for all. Streaming WAV is not an option for me since the high-res transcoding breaks (at least I think it does - not sure with the recent changes in this space). If it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread opaqueice
itz;377908 Wrote: > > On the otherhand I can assure you that I really can hear the difference > in the posted statements. May it be my brain that play tricks on me or > not. Hi itz, it's -very- easy to find out. Have a friend flip a coin - heads is flac as wav, tails is native streaming for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2009-01-01 Thread itz
Sorry guys, stupid thing to post this thread as I should have understood how it would come through. Can only blame it on a slight drunkeness yesterday. On the otherhand I can assure you that I really can hear the difference in the posted statements. May it be my brain that play tricks on me or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2008-12-31 Thread adamslim
darrenyeats;377848 Wrote: > Hi Stefan, > Firstly you're brand new to this forum and secondly you've got a > shopping list of statements to kick off a big argument. Whether you > realise it or not, people are going to think that combination means > you're a troll. > Darren It's proper 'Happy New

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2008-12-31 Thread Themis
Yeah ! Happy new year to you, too, Stephan. ;) (giving troll lessons for free) -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?use

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2008-12-31 Thread darrenyeats
itz;377810 Wrote: > At the risk of being declared the fool on the hill, I have some > questions/statements. > > To my ears in my rigg (with external dac): > > 1. Squeezecenter on Nas (Synology 107+128) sounds a lot better than on > puter with XP. > > 2. Flac's streamed as wav sounds better the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.

2008-12-31 Thread dlhamby
What did you do for controls, Stefan? Unless you controlled for level and experienced all of this double blind, it is likely that you are experiencing placebo effect on some of these, particularly those changes where the squeezebox or transporter is doing the final retiming and conversion. Bits