Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-07 Thread Gazjam
stone;544321 Wrote: > Have to admit i was making assumtions, but IMHO, the major source of > audible differences originating from digtal domain is our old enemy > jitter. > > Also youre indicating that there is a difference between SB2 and SB3. > Isn't the SB3 just SB2 in new housing? > > Any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-07 Thread stone
Gazjam;543288 Wrote: > Did I say that? > Uhm..no, Im not being that technical or that specific. :) > > What Im saying is that there is a good jump in sound quality to my ears > in my system (and lots of other User opinions seem to agree)using the > Touch than there was with the SB3. > My Dac/sy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-04 Thread NewBuyer
I think that when used as digital transports, any audible differences between the Touch and SB3 must certainly reflect the jitter-sensitivity & noise-susceptibility etc of the DAC(?) For instance, I recently had a chance to play with a Touch alongside an SB3 and a separate transport - all into a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-04 Thread Themis
stone;543249 Wrote: > the Beresford Caiman is not particularily good at eliminating jitter? The Caiman has no reclocking, afaik. But the differences between transports is not just jitter. There is also noise and there may be other distortions. -- Themis SBT - North Star dac 192 - Croft 25Pre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-04 Thread Phil Leigh
stone;543249 Wrote: > So what you're saying is that the SB3 is a quite jittery digital > transport and that the Beresford Caiman is not particularily good at > eliminating jitter? > > I'm asking because i have recently bought a Caiman and is planning to > mate it with my SB2. > > I would be be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-04 Thread Gazjam
stone;543249 Wrote: > So what you're saying is that the SB3 is a quite jittery digital > transport and that the Beresford Caiman is not particularily good at > eliminating jitter? > > I'm asking because i have recently bought a Caiman and is planning to > mate it with my SB2. > > I would be be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-04 Thread stone
Gazjam;541422 Wrote: > Hi, > > > One thing ive noticed about the Beresford is that it can show up > differences in whatever is fed into it quite easily.. > For instance my Touch is obviously a much better digital transport than > my SB3..sounds very much better. > > Gaz. So what you're saying

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-05-01 Thread Gazjam
dogsnadgers;542009 Wrote: > Hi Gazjam > Thanks for that - very interesting and helpful. The only thing that > puts me off the Touch is losing the Duet's remote, I guess I could > control the Touch with the Duet remote but that then becomes an > expensive player! > Dave I only bought the Touch p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-30 Thread dogsnadgers
Just the one! -- dogsnadgers dogsnadgers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78036

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-30 Thread Robin Bowes
On 30/04/10 18:14, magiccarpetride wrote: > > slate;541440 Wrote: >> Cables are a seperate purchase > > Stupid question (I'm not versed in technicalities): do I need one > digital coax, or two (left and right), for connecting from Squeezebox > Duet into Caiman? One. R. ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-30 Thread magiccarpetride
slate;541440 Wrote: > Cables are a seperate purchase Stupid question (I'm not versed in technicalities): do I need one digital coax, or two (left and right), for connecting from Squeezebox Duet into Caiman? -- magiccarpetride ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-30 Thread dogsnadgers
Hi Gazjam Thanks for that - very interesting and helpful. The only thing that puts me off the Touch is losing the Duet's remote, I guess I could control the Touch with the Duet remote but that then becomes an expensive player! Dave -- dogsnadgers ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-30 Thread Gazjam
dogsnadgers;541876 Wrote: > Hi > I have been meaning to do this for a while, when first installed I > couldn't live with the Duet against the CD5i, the sound was dull and > lifeless in comparison, the DAC solved that (bought used, so already > run in). Approx nine months on the Duet is well run

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-30 Thread dogsnadgers
Hi I have been meaning to do this for a while, when first installed I couldn't live with the Duet against the CD5i, the sound was dull and lifeless in comparison, the DAC solved that (bought used, so already run in). Approx nine months on the Duet is well run in and the difference is not so great

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-29 Thread spile
dogsnadgers;541566 Wrote: > I too use the Duet with a T-7510 and I am very pleased with the sound, I > sold my Naim CD5i as I couldn't tell the difference, unplugging the DAC > from a cheap power strip and plugging it straight into un-switched wall > sockets improved the sound dramatically so no

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread dogsnadgers
I too use the Duet with a T-7510 and I am very pleased with the sound, I sold my Naim CD5i as I couldn't tell the difference, unplugging the DAC from a cheap power strip and plugging it straight into un-switched wall sockets improved the sound dramatically so no regrets selling the CD player. I us

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread dogsnadgers
I too use the Duet with a T-7510 and I am very pleased with the sound, I sold my Naim CD5i as I couldn't tell the difference, unplugging the DAC from a cheap power strip and plugging it straight into un-switched wall sockets improved the sound dramatically so no regrets selling the CD player. I us

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread Themis
Phil Leigh;541473 Wrote: > er yeah...of course... > :) -- Themis SBT - North Star dac 192 - Croft 25Pre and Series 7 power - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?useri

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread Phil Leigh
Squeezed_Rotel;541400 Wrote: > Phil, I advised him to come here for help. I actually hoped you would be > the one to respond. But not this way. > Now that we have exchanged apologies and hopefully eliminated all the > confusion, can we help this new member? er yeah...of course... 1.5m/4.5ft (NO

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread slate
Cables are a seperate purchase Burnin time: you can start playing a stream from a radiostation and then turn of your amplifier -- slate Main: Duet -> Beresford Caiman -> Carver A-500x -> B&W 704 Office: Duet -> Technics SU-V50 -> Stax SR84 Pro Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread magiccarpetride
Gazjam;541422 Wrote: > Hi, > using a "modded" Caiman here (See AOS Forum for details..) with my new > Touch, used it previoulsy with my SB Classic.. > > I use a coax rather than an Optical link as I found co-ax to be better > sounding. > > One thing ive noticed about the Beresford is that it ca

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread Gazjam
Hi, using a "modded" Caiman here (See AOS Forum for details..) with my new Touch, used it previoulsy with my SB Classic.. I use a coax rather than an Optical link as I found co-ax to be better sounding. One thing ive noticed about the Beresford is that it can show up differences in whatever is f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread Themis
magiccarpetride;541330 Wrote: > I've just ordered Beresford Caiman DAC for my Squeezebox Duet, and was > wondering if someone on this forum is using this configuration. I'd > like to know what's the most optimal way to connect the Duet with the > Caiman -- I am very keen on the sound quality, don

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread Squeezed_Rotel
Phil Leigh;541397 Wrote: > So I see... No need to apologise! Phil, I advised him to come here for help. I actually hoped you would be the one to respond. But not this way. Now that we have exchanged appologies and hopefully eliminated all the confusion, can we help this new member? -- Squeeze

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;541343 Wrote: > My apologies. I was advised at the Squeezebox Duet forum to repost my > original question to this forum, as I am inquiring about the audiophile > level DAC. So I see... No need to apologise! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a C

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread magiccarpetride
Phil Leigh;541337 Wrote: > Please can you not cross-post across the forums - it causes confusion. > Thanks My apologies. I was advised at the Squeezebox Duet forum to repost my original question to this forum, as I am inquiring about the audiophile level DAC. -- magiccarpetride --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Duet and Beresford Caiman DAC

2010-04-28 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;541330 Wrote: > I've just ordered Beresford Caiman DAC for my Squeezebox Duet, and was > wondering if someone on this forum is using this configuration. I'd > like to know what's the most optimal way to connect the Duet with the > Caiman -- I am very keen on the sound quality, don