RE: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project {External} {External}

2023-08-17 Thread 'Hawkins, David W (US 334B)' via [email protected]
Hi Glen,



The ADRV9009 is an improved version of the AD9361/AD9363 used on the PlutoSDR. 
It uses JESD204C high-speed transceivers for the interface, and can be used 
with a number of FPGA development boards.



But I do not know if anyone has a CASPER interface to it.



This is why the RFSoC 4x2 boards may be the best solution to a lot of problems, 
as CASPER already has support for them 😊



For those who do not know, commercial entities can buy the boards for about $5k 
(versus half that for Universities).



Regards,

Dave



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Hi Matthew,



Thanks for your update.   I’m still looking for the low cost entry point

to CASPER. Any alternatives appreciated.



The Pluto does have a number of fantastic features, including two inputs and

two outputs, so that returning (TXing) a version of input signals might be a 
great test.   It has 50db of gain.



A limited version of Gnuradio is supported in the ARM processor.

Often the PlutoSDR devices actually contain dual core processors.



My desire is actually event detection, that was implemented (long, long ago), 
on an iBoB, which detected short term events and flags data capture.



I’d like to do this at 60 MHz bandwidth, but only capture a fraction of a 
second.

Which is possible on the PlutoSDR, but not for much data.



Best regards



Glen



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> On Aug 17, 2023, at 3:37 PM, Matthew Schiller 
> mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>

> While technically perhaps possible The XC7X010 Zynq FPGA used on the 
> ADALM-PLUTO is going to be limiting for any Casper signal processing work as 
> it has a total of 80 multipliers and only 28,000 LUTs, that's really tiny for 
> doing anything more than a simple polyphase decimator and a streaming I/Q 
> output, which is basically what they give you out of the box from Analog 
> Devices.

>

>

>

>

> Matthew Schiller

> ngVLA Digital Backend Lead

> NRAO

>

> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

> 315-316-2032

>

>

>

>

>

> -Original Message-

> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf

> Of Glen I Langston

> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 2:59 PM

> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components

> student project {External} {External}

>

> Hi Colm,

>

> If you want about the very cheapest radio telescope hardware, you could 
> consider the “Pail of Milky Way” radio telescope.

>

> See

> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/WVURAIL/lightwork/blob/m<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/github.com/WVURAIL/lightwork/blob/m>

> aster/memos/LightWorkMemo032-PailOfMilkyWay-r5.pdf__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu

> 7!N6uHI-iIm-d9M5Ld4KA5p-aexPfELTxCrE8PP6C2qpJHYYGKbC-F-iIZlizyL4CPkuhG

> qsdZ6p4AxFT7yqShIEE708sJgTbKD91b$ (All parts cost about $500 US,

> including the Raspberry Pi 400).

>

> The associated python code is there as well.

>

> This is not really a “CASPER” project as this uses Gnuradio code.

>

> Glen,

>

> FYI I believe that the CASPER software could be ported to the Analog Devices 
> Pluto SDR, but this has not yet been accomplished,

> I believe.   This device is supported by Gnuradio.

> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/eva<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/www.analog.com/en/design-center/eva>

> luation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm-pluto.html*

> eb-buy__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N6uHI-iIm-d9M5Ld4KA5p-aexPfELTxCrE8PP6C2

> qpJHYYGKbC-F-iIZlizyL4CPkuhGqsdZ6p4AxFT7yqShIEE708sJgZanLS3i$

>

> It would be gre

Re: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project {External} {External}

2023-08-17 Thread Glen Langston
Hi Matthew,

Thanks for your update.   I’m still looking for the low cost entry point
to CASPER. Any alternatives appreciated.

The Pluto does have a number of fantastic features, including two inputs and
two outputs, so that returning (TXing) a version of input signals might be a 
great test.   It has 50db of gain.

A limited version of Gnuradio is supported in the ARM processor.
Often the PlutoSDR devices actually contain dual core processors.

My desire is actually event detection, that was implemented (long, long ago),
on an iBoB, which detected short term events and flags data capture.

I’d like to do this at 60 MHz bandwidth, but only capture a fraction of a 
second.
Which is possible on the PlutoSDR, but not for much data.

Best regards

Glen

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007AAS...211.1109L/abstract

https://safe.nrao.edu/wiki/pub/CICADA/CicadaNotes/cicadaNote004.pdf



> On Aug 17, 2023, at 3:37 PM, Matthew Schiller  wrote:
> 
> While technically perhaps possible The XC7X010 Zynq FPGA used on the 
> ADALM-PLUTO is going to be limiting for any Casper signal processing work as 
> it has a total of 80 multipliers and only 28,000 LUTs, that's really tiny for 
> doing anything more than a simple polyphase decimator and a streaming I/Q 
> output, which is basically what they give you out of the box from Analog 
> Devices.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Matthew Schiller
> ngVLA Digital Backend Lead
> NRAO
>  
> [email protected]
> 315-316-2032
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [email protected]  On Behalf Of Glen 
> I Langston
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 2:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components 
> student project {External} {External}
> 
> Hi Colm,
> 
> If you want about the very cheapest radio telescope hardware, you could 
> consider the “Pail of Milky Way” radio telescope.
> 
> See 
> https://github.com/WVURAIL/lightwork/blob/master/memos/LightWorkMemo032-PailOfMilkyWay-r5.pdf
> (All parts cost about $500 US, including the Raspberry Pi 400).
> 
> The associated python code is there as well.
> 
> This is not really a “CASPER” project as this uses Gnuradio code.
> 
> Glen,
> 
> FYI I believe that the CASPER software could be ported to the Analog Devices 
> Pluto SDR, but this has not yet been accomplished, 
> I believe.   This device is supported by Gnuradio.
> https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm-pluto.html#eb-buy
> 
> It would be great if someone could port the CASPER tools to this device.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 11:20 AM, 'Hawkins, David W (US 334B)' via 
>> [email protected]  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Colm,
>>>> I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python
>> In that case, I would recommend investing in:
>> https://www.realdigital.org/hardware/rfsoc-4x2
>> Students can still learn about RF mixers, power amplifiers, and LNAs, and 
>> they would use the RFSoC board as a high-end signal generator and data 
>> acquisition system.
>> The Red Pitaya is another option, but it has lower bandwidth DACs and ADCs.
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> From: [email protected]  On Behalf 
>> Of Colm Bracken
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:25 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components 
>> student project Dear Casper, I hope you are all well today!
>> I am hoping some of you might have some advice/ideas for easily-intefaceable 
>> RF components.
>> I want to purchase signal generators (~100 MHz), and a range of local 
>> oscillators for a student project.
>> Ideally I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python 
>> (or Matlab if necessary). The aim of the project is to develop a new readout 
>> system employing both homodyne and heterodyne techniques, with RF freq's 
>> between 4 and 8 GHz (baseband from DC to ~ 100 MHZ).
>> Any useful ideas would be very much appreciated. Again, emphasis is on 
>> ease-of interfacing.
>> Kind regards,
>> Colm
>> 
>> -- Dr Colm Bracken
>> Lecturer
>> Maynooth University Experimental Physics
>> 
>> 
>> Maynooth University, Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland.
>> 
>> T: +353 1 708 3641
>> E: [email protected] W: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud 
>> attempt from "urldefense.us" claiming to be www.maynoothuniversity.ie 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project {External} {External}

2023-08-17 Thread Matthew Schiller
While technically perhaps possible The XC7X010 Zynq FPGA used on the 
ADALM-PLUTO is going to be limiting for any Casper signal processing work as it 
has a total of 80 multipliers and only 28,000 LUTs, that's really tiny for 
doing anything more than a simple polyphase decimator and a streaming I/Q 
output, which is basically what they give you out of the box from Analog 
Devices.




Matthew Schiller
ngVLA Digital Backend Lead
NRAO
 
[email protected]
315-316-2032





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From: [email protected]  On Behalf Of Glen I 
Langston
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 2:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student 
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Hi Colm,

If you want about the very cheapest radio telescope hardware, you could 
consider the “Pail of Milky Way” radio telescope.

See 
https://github.com/WVURAIL/lightwork/blob/master/memos/LightWorkMemo032-PailOfMilkyWay-r5.pdf
(All parts cost about $500 US, including the Raspberry Pi 400).

The associated python code is there as well.

This is not really a “CASPER” project as this uses Gnuradio code.

Glen,

FYI I believe that the CASPER software could be ported to the Analog Devices 
Pluto SDR, but this has not yet been accomplished, 
I believe.   This device is supported by Gnuradio.
https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm-pluto.html#eb-buy

It would be great if someone could port the CASPER tools to this device.


> On Aug 16, 2023, at 11:20 AM, 'Hawkins, David W (US 334B)' via 
> [email protected]  wrote:
> 
> Hi Colm,
>>> I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python
> In that case, I would recommend investing in:
> https://www.realdigital.org/hardware/rfsoc-4x2
> Students can still learn about RF mixers, power amplifiers, and LNAs, and 
> they would use the RFSoC board as a high-end signal generator and data 
> acquisition system.
> The Red Pitaya is another option, but it has lower bandwidth DACs and ADCs.
> Regards,
> Dave
> From: [email protected]  On Behalf 
> Of Colm Bracken
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components 
> student project Dear Casper, I hope you are all well today!
> I am hoping some of you might have some advice/ideas for easily-intefaceable 
> RF components.
> I want to purchase signal generators (~100 MHz), and a range of local 
> oscillators for a student project.
> Ideally I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python 
> (or Matlab if necessary). The aim of the project is to develop a new readout 
> system employing both homodyne and heterodyne techniques, with RF freq's 
> between 4 and 8 GHz (baseband from DC to ~ 100 MHZ).
> Any useful ideas would be very much appreciated. Again, emphasis is on 
> ease-of interfacing.
> Kind regards,
> Colm
> 
> -- Dr Colm Bracken
> Lecturer
> Maynooth University Experimental Physics
> 
> 
> Maynooth University, Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland.
> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project {External}

2023-08-17 Thread Glen I Langston
Hi Colm,

If you want about the very cheapest radio telescope hardware,
you could consider the “Pail of Milky Way” radio telescope.

See 
https://github.com/WVURAIL/lightwork/blob/master/memos/LightWorkMemo032-PailOfMilkyWay-r5.pdf
  
(All parts cost about $500 US, including the Raspberry Pi 400).

The associated python code is there as well.

This is not really a “CASPER” project as this uses Gnuradio code.

Glen,

FYI I believe that the CASPER software could be ported to the
Analog Devices Pluto SDR, but this has not yet been accomplished, 
I believe.   This device is supported by Gnuradio.
https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm-pluto.html#eb-buy

It would be great if someone could port the CASPER tools to this device.


> On Aug 16, 2023, at 11:20 AM, 'Hawkins, David W (US 334B)' via 
> [email protected]  wrote:
> 
> Hi Colm,
>>> I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python
> In that case, I would recommend investing in:
> https://www.realdigital.org/hardware/rfsoc-4x2
> Students can still learn about RF mixers, power amplifiers, and LNAs, and 
> they would use the RFSoC board as a high-end signal generator and data 
> acquisition system.
> The Red Pitaya is another option, but it has lower bandwidth DACs and ADCs.
> Regards,
> Dave
> From: [email protected]  On Behalf Of Colm 
> Bracken
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student 
> project
> Dear Casper,
> I hope you are all well today!
> I am hoping some of you might have some advice/ideas for easily-intefaceable 
> RF components.
> I want to purchase signal generators (~100 MHz), and a range of local 
> oscillators for a student project.
> Ideally I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python 
> (or Matlab if necessary). The aim of the project is to develop a new readout 
> system employing both homodyne and heterodyne techniques, with RF freq's 
> between 4 and 8 GHz (baseband from DC to ~ 100 MHZ).
> Any useful ideas would be very much appreciated. Again, emphasis is on 
> ease-of interfacing.
> Kind regards,
> Colm
> 
> -- Dr Colm Bracken
> Lecturer
> Maynooth University Experimental Physics
> 
> 
> Maynooth University, Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland.
> 
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RE: [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project

2023-08-16 Thread salmon.na via [email protected]
Dear Colm,

Aspen Electronics Ltd in the UK supply many of these components at competitive 
prices.

Cheers,

Neil

 

From: [email protected]  On Behalf Of Colm 
Bracken
Sent: 16 August 2023 11:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project

 

Dear Casper,

 

I hope you are all well today!

 

I am hoping some of you might have some advice/ideas for easily-intefaceable RF 
components.

I want to purchase signal generators (~100 MHz), and a range of local 
oscillators for a student project.

Ideally I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python (or 
Matlab if necessary). The aim of the project is to develop a new readout system 
employing both homodyne and heterodyne techniques, with RF freq's between 4 and 
8 GHz (baseband from DC to ~ 100 MHZ).

 

Any useful ideas would be very much appreciated. Again, emphasis is on ease-of 
interfacing.

 

Kind regards,

Colm



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RE: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project

2023-08-16 Thread 'Hawkins, David W (US 334B)' via [email protected]
Hi Colm,

>> I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python

In that case, I would recommend investing in:

https://www.realdigital.org/hardware/rfsoc-4x2

Students can still learn about RF mixers, power amplifiers, and LNAs, and they 
would use the RFSoC board as a high-end signal generator and data acquisition 
system.

The Red Pitaya is another option, but it has lower bandwidth DACs and ADCs.

Regards,
Dave

From: [email protected]  On Behalf Of Colm 
Bracken
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student 
project

Dear Casper,

I hope you are all well today!

I am hoping some of you might have some advice/ideas for easily-intefaceable RF 
components.
I want to purchase signal generators (~100 MHz), and a range of local 
oscillators for a student project.
Ideally I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python (or 
Matlab if necessary). The aim of the project is to develop a new readout system 
employing both homodyne and heterodyne techniques, with RF freq's between 4 and 
8 GHz (baseband from DC to ~ 100 MHZ).

Any useful ideas would be very much appreciated. Again, emphasis is on ease-of 
interfacing.

Kind regards,
Colm

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[casper] Advice for radio astronomy components student project

2023-08-16 Thread Colm Bracken
Dear Casper,

I hope you are all well today!

I am hoping some of you might have some advice/ideas for
easily-intefaceable RF components.
I want to purchase signal generators (~100 MHz), and a range of local
oscillators for a student project.
Ideally I am looking for components that easy to interface with via python
(or Matlab if necessary). The aim of the project is to develop a new
readout system employing both homodyne and heterodyne techniques, with RF
freq's between 4 and 8 GHz (baseband from DC to ~ 100 MHZ).

Any useful ideas would be very much appreciated. Again, emphasis is on
ease-of interfacing.

Kind regards,
Colm

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