Re: [ccp4bb] partial hydrogen refinement.

2010-11-22 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Kenneth, ...1.2A resolution... refinement of individual parameters for a hydrogen atom... Hm.. Are you refining against neutron diffraction data? Anyways, to answer your question: technically yes, you can refine individual parameters of any selected atom(s) against X-ray or neutron data (or bo

Re: [ccp4bb] partial hydrogen refinement.

2010-11-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
Not sure if all the sirs will concur (and it might be a good idea to ask madams also), but the answer is probably no. As far as protonation state goes (guess that is what you are after, not oxidation), a better strategy may be to look into the bond lengths between the appropriate heavy atoms that

[ccp4bb] partial hydrogen refinement.

2010-11-22 Thread Kenneth Satyshur
Sirs: We are attempting to refine hydrogens on a ligand (which is 100 % occupied) and has ~ 40 heavy atoms (CNO). The data is 1.2 A, 325 AA, 83335 data points in C2. We have refined aniso and with H riding along (Rf= 17, R = 15) in CCP4. Can we individually refine the protons on the ligand? Let t

[ccp4bb] scala : error of Mean((I)/sd(I))

2010-11-22 Thread Bryan Lepore
[ scala 3.3.16 ] in scala's "final table", there's "Mean((I)/sd(I))". i could be wrong, but the error of this measurement seems to me to exist, considering the uncertainty of sigma = 1 / sqrt( 2 (N-1) ) ... but its not clear where the logfile has the values of I or sigma and N that correspond to

[ccp4bb] Reminder: Intensive 2-day School in Biological and Chemical Crystallography

2010-11-22 Thread John R Helliwell
Reminder: deadline to register approaching Dear Colleagues, Announcing an intensive 2-day School in Biological and Chemical Crystallography, to be held at the University of Manchester on the 11th and 12th January 2011. The Course is sponsored by Bruker (a PhD student Bursary) and the Course is

Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread Phoebe Rice
I'm all in favor of (rational) length limits for the text - almost everybody's prose is easier to read when they've been forced to cut 10-20%. However, some journals include references in the character limit, and that just encourages unscholarly behavoir. Phoebe

[ccp4bb] 'Crystals, X-rays and Proteins' back in print...

2010-11-22 Thread Cooper, Jon B (Medsch Royal Free/Medicine)
For info, Dennis Sherwood's book 'Crystals, X-rays and Proteins' is now firmly back in print (well, as Sherwood and Cooper, this time)... and it has quite a few citations of Acta Cryst papers, with titles ;-) A couple of tiny errata can be found at the following link... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~rm

[ccp4bb] question about Legacy's Insight software

2010-11-22 Thread Padmaja Mehta-DSouza, PhD
A non-ccp4 related question. Does anyone know if the 2D and 3D stereo-imaging on Insight II will work on a Linux client computer and an LCD monitor? We still use old SGI computers but need to upgrade to Linux. We still have an Insight license and we use the program quite frequently. Any feedback

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread Jacob Keller
Maybe article submissions could just contain the pubmed ID for references, then everything would be pretty simple, no? The journal could format it as it sees fit, and there would only be errors if there were errors in pubmed. I guess books are trickier, but most references are articles anyway. JPK

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread Clemens Steegborn
Hi Bert, rReferences in Science do NOT contain article titles, like in quite a number of other journals (e.g. JBC, just to mention one of them) . and I agree that it's a pain to find out whether a reference is really of interest to you - but I also agree that it's so much more convenient for the

Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread Van Den Berg, Bert
OK I get it, its about the supplements...apologies. Bert On 11/22/10 9:35 AM, "John R Helliwell" wrote: Dear Jacob, Additional content, like article titles, whether print or online, need to be checked properly for accuracy. Article titles (if supplied by authors) can often need heavy checking,

Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread Van Den Berg, Bert
?? I don't know if I understand the question, but don't most journals have references that do include the article titles? Science, Nature, Cell, NSMB, PNAS, JMB, Structure all have references titlesas they should. Bert On 11/22/10 9:35 AM, "John R Helliwell" wrote: Dear Jacob, Additional

Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Jacob, Additional content, like article titles, whether print or online, need to be checked properly for accuracy. Article titles (if supplied by authors) can often need heavy checking, and online systems to check bibliographic information are not always reliable or comprehensive. This I think

Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Francois, To my knowledge there are very few Journals that have article references with titles. In crystallography I know of Crystallgraphy Reviews. Best Wishes, John On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Francois Berenger wrote: > Hello, > > For me the citation format is also a major problem. >

Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-22 Thread Jacob Keller
It seems to me that this problem is really a hold-over from compromise with the exigencies of hard-copy publishing, i.e. a way to save physical space. Further, there seem to be many aspects of e-publication that have not adapted to the strengths/weaknesses of the new medium, which could and should

Re: [ccp4bb] origin_shift in polar space group

2010-11-22 Thread Kevin Cowtan
It makes an intelligent guess based on chain ID and proximity what is a contiguous unit in the file, and moves on that basis. Separate chains are always moved separately. Monomers within a chain which do not have close contiguity to their neighbours - eg waters, broken chains - are also moved s

Re: [ccp4bb] origin_shift in polar space group

2010-11-22 Thread Ian Tickle
Thanks, I should try it before I criticise ... Regards -- Ian On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > It is a program Kevin Cowtan wrote - here is the info you get when you try > to run it.. > E > > > [c...@roo mariaH]$ csymmatch > > > > > >  #

Re: [ccp4bb] per-residue RMSD calculation for homologous structure

2010-11-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
SSM - see superpose task under Coordinate utilities. This matches secondary structure and gives RMSD for CAs - inceredibly useful program.. Eleanor On 11/19/2010 10:55 PM, Srivastava, Dhiraj (MU-Student) wrote: Hi All does anyone know any software that can calculate and print out RMSD

Re: [ccp4bb] origin_shift in polar space group

2010-11-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It is a program Kevin Cowtan wrote - here is the info you get when you try to run it.. E [c...@roo mariaH]$ csymmatch ### ###

Re: [ccp4bb] relationship between B factors and Koff

2010-11-22 Thread George M. Sheldrick
I agree that refining a single occupancy parameter for the ligand is a good approach. Because of the correlation with the B-values, it is essential to refine occupancy and isotropic or anisotropic B-values together, not in separate steps. SHELX has been able to do this correctly for the last 40

Re: [ccp4bb] relationship between B factors and Koff

2010-11-22 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Although Bfactors and occupancies are correlated, occupancy refinement is quite feasible for the following reasons: 1) Modern maximum likelyhood programs like Buster do a decent job in separating occupancies and Bfactors. It shows up as shells of negative difference density e.g. around partiall