Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Wednesday, 02 October, 2013 17:31:06 wtempel wrote: > Tim, > I agree with your statement. > Consider this situation: > Macromolecular sample MA produces crystal CA. Data scale well in C2221 and > refinement proceeds smoothly to give stuctural model SA. > Slightly modified macromolecular sample M

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread Dom Bellini
Dear W., If you really want to do a comparison on the Rfree, the only way would be to start off how described by Tim, i.e., rescaling your images to create a P21 mtz and then further reducing them to create a second higher symmetry C2221 mtz. Then you could create a set of Rfree flags for one

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread wtempel
Tim, I agree with your statement. Consider this situation: Macromolecular sample MA produces crystal CA. Data scale well in C2221 and refinement proceeds smoothly to give stuctural model SA. Slightly modified macromolecular sample MA* crystallizes to yield crystal CA*. Data scale well in C2221 with

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear W., if P21 is a proper subgroup of C2221, scaling a P21 data set in C2221 would try to make non-equivalent reflections equal, would it not? I would reintegrate the data in the correct point group and scale in the correct space group. Best, Tim

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread wtempel
Hello Appu and Boaz, my suspicion arises from failure to refine (as in reducing crystallographic R-factor from the 40%s) a related, virtually isomorphous crystal structure in the original C2221 setting. Scaling statistics are very nice even in C2221. If I drop the symmetry to P21, the R-factor drop

[ccp4bb] השב: Re: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Just wondering: what's the justification for this exercise? Aren't the two lattices sampling the molecular transform differently even though there is a transformation relating them? Wouldn't it be more correct to select a different R free set for the p21 cell? Boaz הודעה מקורית -

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread wtempel
Thanks, Randy. Molrep must be failing due to some other flaw in my procedure, as it clearly uses the P21 cell, as evidenced by the output CRYST1 and ViewHKL in qtRView of ccp4i. Can you suggest any alternative procedures that would expand that C-centered data set into the primitive setting? W. ---

Re: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread Appu kumar
How do you suspect that C2221 is 'pseudo' and P21 is 'real'? You can use the reindex programme incorporated in ccp4 suit. Reindex programme can expand symmetry from C2221 to P21.I Hope you will get the result. Thank you Appu On 2 October 2013 21:43, wtempel wrote: > Hello, > I would like to exp

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Re: [ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread Randy J. Read
I suspect the problem is that sftools hasn't been modernised to alter all the cell dimension records used in current MTZ files. I can't remember right now but maybe the DCELL command in cad might fix it. Randy Read Randy J. Read > On 2 Oct 2013, at 17:13, wtempel wrote: > > Hello, > I

[ccp4bb] expanding reflections from C2221 to P21

2013-10-02 Thread wtempel
Hello, I would like to expand a reflection data set in mtz format from C2221 to P21. The purpose is to obtain consistent R-free flags based on a structure already refined in C2221 for a related data set that I suspect is pseudo-C2221 but "real" P21. Primitive cell dimensions are: 37.6 126.1 40.61

Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic- DNA length

2013-10-02 Thread Matthias Zebisch
Dear Wei, doesnt sound too special to me. DNA in itself is a very soluble molecule. The part which hangs out of the core complex drives solubility of the whole thing. As a drawback crystallizability may also go down... All the best, Matthias - Dr. Mat

[ccp4bb] Off Topic- DNA length

2013-10-02 Thread Wei Huang
Dear CCP4er, I have an interesting observation for one of my DNA binding protein--when the length of DNA flanking both DNA binding site increase, the solubility of protein-DNA complex increases. And I can get a nice sigmoid curve from protein solubility versus DNA length. The solubility of prot

[ccp4bb] Four PostDoc positions in Oxford

2013-10-02 Thread Susan Lea
In addition to the posts working on Tat secretion we also have two posts looking at Notch signalling in Oxford. I'm reposting the link for the Tat positions as I failed to post that correctly last week :-) Notch signalling - With Susan Lea & Penny Handford http://tinyurl.com/pcv5xlq Tat protein