Re: [ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread Steiner, Roberto
Hi David I was using a very similar Belle Technology setup during my PhD. One thing we did was to modify the receiving dewar in the microscope chamber by screwing in small metal clips to the inside wall such that standard Hampton magic wands could be clipped immediately after plunging. That allo

Re: [ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread David Gallagher
Thanks for all the input. I'll try to respond to some of the points made. Kelly - the dewar is quite narrow in diameter so there's little space to maneuver, the puck fits snugly. Unfortunately we are limited by the size of the port so we can't use a larger one. Additionally the dewar sits b

Re: [ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread Patrick Loll
Think about "hyperquenching" (a high-falluting name meaning to use a stream of gas to blow off the cold layer that accumulates above the surface of the liquid nitrogen). We just blow some nitrogen at the surface of the dewar, very low tech...but it works. Importantly, you can use a more leisurel

Re: [ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread Peter Moody
We have a similar setup at Leicester, but its new enough not to have got that far yet! I'd be interested in any replies you get. best wishes, Peter On 24 April 2012 15:20, David Gallagher wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been using a Belle technologies anaerobic glovebox with in built > microscope

Re: [ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread Nian Huang
Hi, Sometimes the forming of ice is due to the high humidity in the air. I recommend to put a dehumidifier in the room or silicone gel in your camber. Nian On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Kelly Daughtry wrote: > Is there room in the LN2 to plunge directly in, then maneuver into > puck? That's w

Re: [ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread Bryan Lepore
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM, David Gallagher > wrote: >> I've been using a Belle technologies anaerobic glovebox with in built >> microscope and liquid nitrogen dewar port [...] >>  plunging loops straight into vials preloaded into an ESRF puck why, why, why, and why? >> [...] This requir

Re: [ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread Kelly Daughtry
Is there room in the LN2 to plunge directly in, then maneuver into puck? That's what I did, with a different setup, but still anaerobic and moving into pucks. I did not run into ice problems. If there is not room within the LN2 bowl, can you use a larger one? I've found any hesitation when headin

[ccp4bb] Anaerobic glovebox crystal cryo-cooling

2012-04-24 Thread David Gallagher
Hi all, I've been using a Belle technologies anaerobic glovebox with in built microscope and liquid nitrogen dewar port in an attempt to harvest and cryo-cool crystals in an oxygen free environment. I've been having some problems with icing and think this is most likely due to slow speed tha