When it's Jewish Congresswoman shot by man with possible ties to
anti-semitic group...it would show a potential connection.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 22:44
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democratic congres
One of the Tuscon, AZ news stations was stating that he listed Palin as a
big influence on his myspace page...not sure if that was ever confirmed or
not as his page was taken down pretty quickly.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January
For those who do not know...Rep Giffords is Jewish...
-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 20:11
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.
"The AP reports that the alleged shooter
Here's the posting...
Matt, I posted this on another friends wall but it's applicable here as
well. I have no evidence that this man today saw or heard Palin or Angle. It
is simply anecdotal, Palin had cross hairs on one of the people shot today.
This bothers me. There was a case involving aborti
Actually no...there was a similar situation with an anti-abortion group
where they posted similar rhetoric and posted info about docs that did
abortions...when someone went out and actually shot a doc, the folks that
rant he website were also prosecuted for inciting violence. So no, he would
not
This guy was tackled by a staffer...so no dount about his guilt...
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 15:12
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.
What is Larry's favorit
I think the point is that a politician was shot, and other politicians
have been advocating shooting folk.
Even if it was a euphemism or some such: "Lock and Load[ your vote]!"
"RELOAD[ your vote]!"
Can the media jump to a fact that advocating violence in politics,
even euphemistically, is not
Oh, just as a follow up, I don't care one way or another about democrats,
republicans, tea ballers, or whatever other groups are out there. If she was
a republican and the same thing came up I'd have the same exact comments.
--
Ethics. The first thing lost when ratings matter more than facts
~~
But my using the adjective "Jewish" makes it a factor in the event or
implies that it was a factor. And the post body of "They are executing
congresswomen now?" Who's the "They"? Well, the they have to be in some way
connected to her being a congresswoman or being 'insert adjective here'.
Call it
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I forgot, on this list...its bad to stereotype unless you are
> stereotyping Republicans. It is also bad to pass judgement on an
> entire group based on the words and actions of a few..unless you are
> doing so against the Republican Party or
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Michael Dinowitz
wrote:
>
> I wonder what the response would have been if I posted "Jewish congresswomen
> shot in the head at point blank range".
Sounds like an accurate description of what happened to me. I fail to
see why using an adjective to describe the vic
I wonder what the response would have been if I posted "Jewish congresswomen
shot in the head at point blank range".
Think it though and realistically imagine your response to such a post. Try
to block out what you've read from this thread and the news since and really
think of your response. How
This guy who pulled the trigger was being labeled a right wing nut job
before the congresswoman even made it to the hospital.
Bringing up the stupid shit tea Partiers were saying, when there is no
proof it influenced this guy in any way serves, no purpose...at all -
except to get the mindless dro
Pointing out that specific people have engaged in political rhetoric
that suggested attacks on this particular congresswoman is neither
stereotyping or jumping to conclusions. It is simply stating facts.
Whether or not this young man was influenced by that rhetoric is
unknown, but the potential t
I forgot, on this list...its bad to stereotype unless you are
stereotyping Republicans. It is also bad to pass judgement on an
entire group based on the words and actions of a few..unless you are
doing so against the Republican Party or the 'Tea Party'.
Just because people jump to conclusions tha
Are you sure you want to keep bending over backwards to try and blame
this on the right wing?
.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> "The AP reports that the alleged shooter could be connected to the
> anti-government group American Renaissance:
>
> An official familiar with the Ari
I hate using the mouse. More shortcut keys please.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> http://www.islandgamers.com/?p=191
>
> After two years of R&D (they say) Microsoft is releasing its own
> version of Apple's Magic Mouse.
~~~
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"The AP reports that the alleged shooter could be connected to the
anti-government group American Renaissance:
An official familiar with the Arizona shooting investigation says
local authorities are looking at a possible connection between Jared
Loughner and an online group known for its anti-gov
Stupid comes to mind for sure.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/09/obama-administration-moves-forward-with-unique-internet-id-for-a/
" it would enhance security and reduce the need for people to memorize
dozens of passwords online."
Entire idea sounds nuts to me. We going to have to recode our
authorisation routines to interac
GOP Senator says that the political rhetoric needs to be toned down.
http://huff.to/gh7J8s
This is what Giffords herself said on March 25th:
""We're on Sarah Palin's targeted list," Giffords said on MSNBC on March 25.
"But the thing is that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs
of
Journalists urged caution after Ft. Hood, now race to blame Palin
after Arizona shootings
Read more at the Washington Examiner:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/journalists-urged-caution-after-ft-hood-now-race-blame-palin-afte
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Sco
Here are some emails that a classmate from college wrote which mention the
shooter:
In early June, Lynda Sorenson, 52, had gone back to community college in
Tucson in hopes of getting back on the job market. One of her classes was a
basic algebra class--and one of her classmates was Jared Loughne
"It shouldn't have. There are very precise methods in place to
dispute erroneous credit report entries."
Oh, I agree. It shouldn't have. We followed the steps over and over.
Finally threatened legal action.
I am sure that the problem was with BOA. I believe the credit companies
would remove
"if there was a muslim in detroit who put up a map with crosshairs
over congressmen."
Did you mean suppose instead of "if".
"If that Muslim in Detroit then went on television and held public rallies
advocating his supporters to Get locked and Loaded, to get on target to
remove these congressmen
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
...
> I am not saying that the 'rhetoric' had nothing to do with it, but how
> about we wait for the investigation to actually uncover some evidence
> before we start pointing fingers.
>
> Sill me, I forgot, its 'innocent until proven guilty, unle
That is how it is supposed to work, but in fact, it does not always
happen that way, especially if the item in question is a tax lien, or
a credit card from a large bank like BOA.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Actually, the law states that if you appeal something on your
Actually, the law states that if you appeal something on your report,
or report it as inaccurate, the credit bureau has 30 days to verify it
is correct or it has to remove it from your credit report. I have
gotten several things removed from my credit report over the years
because the credit repor
What is Larry's favorite saying with stuff like thiswait, I
remember...correlation != causation.
I am not saying that the 'rhetoric' had nothing to do with it, but how
about we wait for the investigation to actually uncover some evidence
before we start pointing fingers.
Sill me, I forgot, i
It shouldn't have. There are very precise methods in place to dispute
erroneous credit report entries.
A properly worded letter to both the creditor and the credit reporting
agency, sent certified, gives each recipient 30 days to investigate said
entry. If the creditor is one day late, they are l
The shooting did not immediately raise the issue, the media and other
Democrats did.
So, now I guess anytime a Democrat dies, we can assume a Republican
had something to do with it?
I can only imagine what your response would be if SAm had posted
something similar.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:31 A
I cannot believe that regardless of what the motivations were, after
something like this has happened one can look at that rhetoric, hear it and
read it, and say that it is still ok.
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Jerry,
if there was a muslim in detroit who put up a map with crosshairs over
congressmen.
If that Muslim in Detroit then went on television and held public
rallies advocating his supporters to Get locked and Loaded,
to get on target to remove these congressmen,
and when they fire they should Re
"Her party was important because the shooting immediately raised the issue
of the rhetoric coming out of the GOP, and they have zeroed in on Sarah
Palin's website and Target Map."
I think what is more important is the immediate rhetoric blaming the tea
party movement without any proof. Before th
Well then you and Milo are both guilty of using your politics to cloud
your vision.
Look at the facts and rethink your statements.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Combine that with Aharon angles "Second Amendment Remedies" and Michelle
> Bachman's "armed and dangerous"
Pima county Sheriff's comments on this...he seems to concur that the
Political Rhetoric coming from the right behing the root cause behind this
incident...
http://buzzword101.com/2011/01/09/clarence-dupnik-pima-county-az-sheriff-bla
mes-az-political-culture-for-shooting/
One station is reporting
This was a rally held by Rep. Gifford's opponent Jesse Kelly...
http://www.allyourtv.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2387%3
Agiffords-opponent-held
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 07:03
To: cf-community
Combine that with Aharon angles "Second Amendment Remedies" and Michelle
Bachman's "armed and dangerous"...I would say that they are responsible for
advocating this action.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 07:03
To: cf-com
If Palin would have just we are putting you in our crosshairs...that
wouldn't be so bad...it's just that she followed that up by telling people
to get locked and loaded that makes it dangerous. Being in someone's
crosshairs can mean quite a few things that are not suggesting
violence...any more t
What is original and what was added? Without seeing a clean copy, this
looks a bit suspicious.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 07:03
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank
For me, that goes back to the credit reporting agencies need to be
responsible for ensuring accuracy...especially after being notified of an
issue. As soon as something is disputed, it should be removed and put in a
pending status until it can be determined if it is valid or not.
Eric
-Orig
"Did it say if he hated women or not? Maybe that's why she was a target."
The Daily KOS put a bullseye on Gifford (their words). They wanted to knock
her out of the primaries. Image of the page her:
http://i52.tinypic.com/b499it.jpg. The original has been taken down.
There was a thread on th
Items do tend to stay on credit reports a long time and it is like pulling
teeth to get erroneous items removed.
On one credit report, my wife and I had our score lowered because of a
charge at a dental office. We live in the triad of NC. The charge was at
an office in Vermont on a credit card
Her party was important because the shooting immediately raised the issue of
the rhetoric coming out of the GOP, and they have zeroed in on Sarah Palin's
website and Target Map.
Incredibly she has survived! :)
But they say that she's still critical. Have to hope that she pulls through
and recove
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