On Jul 22, 3:35 am, Nick wrote:
> On 22/07/11 05:30, daly wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 23:03 -0400, Jeff Dik wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, daly wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:14 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
> >>
On 22/07/11 05:30, daly wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 23:03 -0400, Jeff Dik wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, daly wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:14 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 23:03 -0400, Jeff Dik wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, daly wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:14 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
> >> What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced
> >>
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, daly wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:14 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
>> What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced
>> oh-camel, I
>> know very well, but I've never heard o
I worked a lot in several assembler implementations in the 80/90s and creating
self-rewriting code was still common.
I remember creating a program crawling in memory on an IBM 370 compatible
computer
by copying itself before jumping in its new instance, I wrote this one as an
amusement :)
I ne
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM, daly wrote:
>
> A justification of homoiconicisty is that programs == data.
>
> A clever soul named Von Neumann made the observation that machines
> were controlled by external commands (i.e. programs) to operate on
> things (i.e. data). His insight was to unify
Leave it to XKCD to figure out the last word on this :-)
http://www.xkcd.com
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 10:22 -0400, daly wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 22:16 -0700, Sean Corfield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Adam Richardson
> > wrote:
> > > the value placed on the last language being
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 22:16 -0700, Sean Corfield wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Adam Richardson wrote:
> > the value placed on the last language being
> > homoiconic (without much justification)
>
> Yeah, that was definitely a weak point of his talk. I thought there
> was a lot of inte
Maybe the PLOT language is intressting to people here. It has syntax
and a very powerful macro system.
http://users.rcn.com/david-moon/PLOT/
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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, daly wrote:
> I believe that Robert missed the fundamental point though. It is
> NOT just the space of ideas that makes lisp "the right language".
> Another key reason is "impedance matching". (An impedance mismatch
> is when you hook a soda straw to a firehose).
>
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Adam Richardson wrote:
> the value placed on the last language being
> homoiconic (without much justification)
Yeah, that was definitely a weak point of his talk. I thought there
was a lot of interesting stuff in there tho' and it was entertaining
(which was mostl
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 22:27 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, daly
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:14 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt
> wrote:
> > What's this awk-a-
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, daly wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:14 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
> > What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced
> > oh-camel, I ...
> >
> >
> > I will confess that as I list
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:14 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
> What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced
> oh-camel, I
> know very well, but I've never heard of this awk-a-mel. :-)
>
> Seriousl
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
> What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced oh-camel, I
> know very well, but I've never heard of this awk-a-mel. :-)
>
> Seriously, his pronunciation of "ocaml" highlights, I think, the core
> problem of his talk. There has been s
It is an object extension to the AWK programming language :-)
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 19:31 -0400, Adam Richardson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
> What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced
> oh-camel, I
> know very well, but I've ne
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Brian Hurt wrote:
> What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced oh-camel, I
> know very well, but I've never heard of this awk-a-mel. :-)
>
> Seriously, his pronunciation of "ocaml" highlights, I think, the core
> problem of his talk. There has been s
On Jul 19, 3:23 pm, Brian Hurt wrote:
> What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced oh-camel, I
> know very well, but I've never heard of this awk-a-mel. :-)
>
> Seriously, his pronunciation of "ocaml" highlights, I think, the core
> problem of his talk. There has been significant dev
What's this awk-a-mel he speaks of? Ocaml, pronounced oh-camel, I
know very well, but I've never heard of this awk-a-mel. :-)
Seriously, his pronunciation of "ocaml" highlights, I think, the core
problem of his talk. There has been significant development in
languages, just not in the popular l
On Jul 19, 1:23 pm, Sean Corfield wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
> > What video? The only video I see linked from there is over an hour
> > long. Obviously you can't mean that one, since no one around here has
> > that kind of spare time at this hour on a Tuesday. :)
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
> What video? The only video I see linked from there is over an hour
> long. Obviously you can't mean that one, since no one around here has
> that kind of spare time at this hour on a Tuesday. :)
Yes, an hour. It's an excellent talk. There's a h
this made me lol :D
a big will smith fan??? not that i know you at all other than reading
your posts here, but i really didnt see that coming...
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
> An hour of Will Smith blasting aliens "flies by". An hour of a talking
> head is better presented a
Quite - you don't get the "ants in your pants" vibe from plain text :)
On 19 July 2011 15:18, Ben Smith-Mannschott wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 16:11, Ken Wesson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Colin Yates
> wrote:
> >> I find his videos very easy to watch - I think it was aro
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 16:11, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Colin Yates wrote:
>> I find his videos very easy to watch - I think it was around a hour, but the
>> time flies by.
>
> An hour of Will Smith blasting aliens "flies by". An hour of a talking
> head is better pre
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Colin Yates wrote:
> I find his videos very easy to watch - I think it was around a hour, but the
> time flies by.
An hour of Will Smith blasting aliens "flies by". An hour of a talking
head is better presented as text. An hour of talking head + slides is
better
I find his videos very easy to watch - I think it was around a hour, but the
time flies by.
On 19 July 2011 14:16, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Adam Richardson
> wrote:
> > Watch the video and you'll see the comment Tim is referencing.
>
> Are you aware of the length of
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Adam Richardson wrote:
> Watch the video and you'll see the comment Tim is referencing.
Are you aware of the length of that video?
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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:36 PM, TimDaly wrote:
> > Robert Martin argues that Clojure could be the seed of the last
> > programming language.
> >
> > http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/bobs-last-langua
Maybe. Or maybe Martin's talk should be entitled
"The Last Programming Language To Get Any Mind-Share".
On Jul 19, 3:42 am, Steven Tomcavage wrote:
> I double we'll ever see The Last Programming Language, because we're
> all hackers and we all have a notion that t
tl;dw & spoiler alert:
The trailing conclusion of the video is that Clojure
could be the seed of the last programming language.
The video reprises Gabriel's paper of the same title.
Bob Martin reminds me of James Martin from the 70s,
for those of us old enough to remember him. I wonde
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:54 AM, daly wrote:
> Watch the video.
What video? The only video I see linked from there is over an hour
long. Obviously you can't mean that one, since no one around here has
that kind of spare time at this hour on a Tuesday. :)
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Watch the video.
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 04:52 -0400, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:36 PM, TimDaly wrote:
> > Robert Martin argues that Clojure could be the seed of the last
> > programming language.
> >
> > http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testin
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:36 PM, TimDaly wrote:
> Robert Martin argues that Clojure could be the seed of the last
> programming language.
>
> http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/bobs-last-language
I don't see how that claim can be drawn from the textual content
I double we'll ever see The Last Programming Language, because we're
all hackers and we all have a notion that things could be done better
if we just tweaked this or that a bit, and voila, you have a new
programming language.
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:36 PM, TimDaly wrote:
> Robert
Robert Martin argues that Clojure could be the seed of the last
programming language.
http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/bobs-last-language
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