Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread glenn andreas
On Apr 1, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Ricky Sharp wrote: On Apr 1, 2008, at 10:13 AM, I. Savant wrote: Of course we don't know what the requirements are. You may have a perfectly valid reason but customizing AppKit might be a perfectly poor choice ... The best thing to do - as I said - is to explain

Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread Ricky Sharp
On Apr 1, 2008, at 10:13 AM, I. Savant wrote: Of course we don't know what the requirements are. You may have a perfectly valid reason but customizing AppKit might be a perfectly poor choice ... The best thing to do - as I said - is to explain what you are trying to accomplish and why Cocoa U

Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread I. Savant
> Honestly I think most people don't appreciate how much stuff you get > "for free" in Cocoa, but you learn pretty fast when you get to > reimplement it yourself! :) True, but there are many legitimate reasons not to use a standard UI. FrontRow is a prime example of this. A kiosk application

Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread Jens Alfke
On 1 Apr '08, at 6:52 AM, colo wrote: Thats silly. eh' i'm not going to argue I have no need to just yet, I still need to learn the detailed basics. But what of using opengl for the gui then? The Blender app utilizes this to the effect. You can create any kind of UI you want — look at all the

Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread John Stiles
If you want to use OpenGL for your GUI, that's always an option, but again you're on your own here. Cocoa provides very little support for this (outside of the generic NSOpenGLView). Honestly I think most people don't appreciate how much stuff you get "for free" in Cocoa, but you learn pretty

Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread colo
Thats silly. eh' i'm not going to argue I have no need to just yet, I still need to learn the detailed basics. But what of using opengl for the gui then? The Blender app utilizes this to the effect. On 4/1/08, Rob Keniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 01/04/2008, at 10:58 PM, colo wrote: > >

Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread Rob Keniger
On 01/04/2008, at 10:58 PM, colo wrote: Is their no common toolkit like css for Cocoa GUI ? No. This is largely because Mac applications are supposed to have a consistent user interface. You can read more about this in the Apple Human Interface Guidelines: http://developer.apple.com/docu

Re: Custom interface

2008-04-01 Thread colo
custom UIs look and act really bad. Just looking different for the sake > of looking different is a sure-fire recipe for dissatisfied customers. > > > > Mr. Gecko wrote: > > How would I make a custom interface as in making the buttons windows > > and process bar

Re: Custom interface

2008-03-31 Thread John Stiles
sure your customer knows what they are talking about. 3/4 of custom UIs look and act really bad. Just looking different for the sake of looking different is a sure-fire recipe for dissatisfied customers. Mr. Gecko wrote: How would I make a custom interface as in making the buttons windows a

Custom interface

2008-03-31 Thread Mr. Gecko
How would I make a custom interface as in making the buttons windows and process bar look different. I need this to give my customers a more clean interface. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests