Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-07-01 Thread via GitHub


eladkal commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-3023344132

   >  I think it would be good to raise a discussion asking what peopel think 
about it and try to reach consensus.
   
I agree. I am not comfortable with making this change without the UI 
indication / other mechanisem that allows dag authors to see the cluster admin 
setup for backend order


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-07-01 Thread via GitHub


potiuk commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-3022748078

   This looks good to me - but I think it might be worth to raise a devlist 
discussion for it @VladaZakharova -> there were past discussions about changing 
the sequence of resolving configurations, and I know people have strong opinion 
about "fixed" vs. "confifurable" sequence - and there are arguments pro / 
against each of those options. 
   
   I think it would be good to raise a discussion asking what peopel think 
about it and try to reach consensus.


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-06-30 Thread via GitHub


VladaZakharova commented on code in PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#discussion_r2174662212


##
airflow-core/src/airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1265,6 +1265,20 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are:
+
+* ``custom``: Custom secret backend specified in the 
``secrets[backend]`` configuration option.
+* ``environment_variable``: Standard environment variable backend
+  
``airflow.secrets.environment_variables.EnvironmentVariablesBackend``.
+* ``metastore``: Standard metastore backend 
``airflow.secrets.metastore.MetastoreBackend``.
+  version_added: 3.0.0
+  type: string
+  example: ~
+  default: "custom,environment_variable,metastore"

Review Comment:
Hi there!
I see that we are close to release Af3.1, so maybe we can merge this 
change? 
Thanks :)



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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-04-01 Thread via GitHub


eladkal commented on code in PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#discussion_r2023517222


##
airflow-core/src/airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1265,6 +1265,20 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are:
+
+* ``custom``: Custom secret backend specified in the 
``secrets[backend]`` configuration option.
+* ``environment_variable``: Standard environment variable backend
+  
``airflow.secrets.environment_variables.EnvironmentVariablesBackend``.
+* ``metastore``: Standard metastore backend 
``airflow.secrets.metastore.MetastoreBackend``.
+  version_added: 3.0.0
+  type: string
+  example: ~
+  default: "custom,environment_variable,metastore"

Review Comment:
   right now it's not configurable so the Airflow docs is good enough but after 
this PR is accepted the Airflow docs can't help you... You'll need to check the 
deployment to understand the priority order.
   In many deployments dag authors don't have access to the deployment code.
   
   My thoughts on the UI is an improvement (I think crucial but that is just my 
own perspective) I welcome others to share their thoughts. This feature is 
already targeting 3.1+ so regardless if we do the UI part or not we can't merge 
it now. We need to wait for main branch to become 3.1 (probably only after we 
cut RC1 for Airflow 3(



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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-04-01 Thread via GitHub


Crowiant commented on code in PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#discussion_r2022943159


##
airflow-core/src/airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1265,6 +1265,20 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are:
+
+* ``custom``: Custom secret backend specified in the 
``secrets[backend]`` configuration option.
+* ``environment_variable``: Standard environment variable backend
+  
``airflow.secrets.environment_variables.EnvironmentVariablesBackend``.
+* ``metastore``: Standard metastore backend 
``airflow.secrets.metastore.MetastoreBackend``.
+  version_added: 3.0.0
+  type: string
+  example: ~
+  default: "custom,environment_variable,metastore"

Review Comment:
   Hello @eladkal ! I don't see any info regarding the secrets section the UI 
is using right now. So maybe we could skip it for now? What do you think? 
   Regarding the naming.  As stated in the doc it is responsible for _secrets 
backends search ordering_. So maybe `backends_search_order` is more convenient?



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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-03-31 Thread via GitHub


eladkal commented on code in PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#discussion_r2021018760


##
airflow-core/src/airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1265,6 +1265,20 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are:
+
+* ``custom``: Custom secret backend specified in the 
``secrets[backend]`` configuration option.
+* ``environment_variable``: Standard environment variable backend
+  
``airflow.secrets.environment_variables.EnvironmentVariablesBackend``.
+* ``metastore``: Standard metastore backend 
``airflow.secrets.metastore.MetastoreBackend``.
+  version_added: 3.0.0
+  type: string
+  example: ~
+  default: "custom,environment_variable,metastore"

Review Comment:
   i am a bit concerned making it just a "hidden" setting.
   I think we better to come up with a way to expose the chosen order in the 
UI. that way DAG authors can verify and use it for debug for questions like 
(why I see wrong value in variable).
   
   Also, correct me if I am wrong the order affect only read, not write. maybe 
the setting should be `backends_read_order?`



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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-02-15 Thread via GitHub


potiuk commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-2661094214

   Yeah. I think that might be 3.1 


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-02-13 Thread via GitHub


eladkal commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-2656887152

   We are on feature freeze for Airflow 3.
   https://lists.apache.org/thread/r26htzl0w3th7pw0l1y31g6s14qbtwwt


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-02-13 Thread via GitHub


VladaZakharova commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-2656190070

   Hi @potiuk @eladkal ! Are there some other changes we need to make here? Or 
we can merge this one?


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-02-06 Thread via GitHub


VladaZakharova commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-2639426046

   hi there! 
   @potiuk 
   Can we merge this one please?


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-01-25 Thread via GitHub


potiuk commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-2614079232

   @eladkal ?


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-01-25 Thread via GitHub


potiuk commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-2614079156

   I was initially against making it configurable, but seeing the simplicity 
and flexibility, I am in.


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-01-23 Thread via GitHub


moiseenkov commented on PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#issuecomment-2609151622

   @eladkal , please take a look at the updates.


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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-01-22 Thread via GitHub


moiseenkov commented on code in PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#discussion_r1925348243


##
airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1296,6 +1296,15 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are: `custom`, `environment_variable`, 
`metastore`.
+  version_added: 2.10.5
+  type: string
+  example: ~
+  default: "custom,environment_variable,metastore"

Review Comment:
   Thanks for noticing that - I updated the documentation and the new option 
description.
   
   Speaking of breaking changes, I'm pretty sure that the default behavior is 
identical the current one, because the existing implementation used to check 
any custom backend first, and then load `EnvironmentVariablesBackend` and 
`MetastoreBackend`.
   
   ```python
   DEFAULT_SECRETS_SEARCH_PATH = [
   "airflow.secrets.environment_variables.EnvironmentVariablesBackend",
   "airflow.secrets.metastore.MetastoreBackend",
   ]
   
   ...
   
   def initialize_secrets_backends() -> list[BaseSecretsBackend]:
   ...
   
   backend_list = []
   
   custom_secret_backend = get_custom_secret_backend()
   
   if custom_secret_backend is not None:
   backend_list.append(custom_secret_backend)
   
   for class_name in DEFAULT_SECRETS_SEARCH_PATH:
   secrets_backend_cls = import_string(class_name)
   backend_list.append(secrets_backend_cls())
   
   return backend_list
   ```



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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-01-22 Thread via GitHub


moiseenkov commented on code in PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#discussion_r1925339026


##
airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1296,6 +1296,15 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are: `custom`, `environment_variable`, 
`metastore`.
+  version_added: 2.10.5

Review Comment:
   Thanks for pointing that out. Changed to the version 3.0.0.



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Re: [PR] Add config option [secrets]backends_order [airflow]

2025-01-22 Thread via GitHub


eladkal commented on code in PR #45931:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/45931#discussion_r1925299794


##
airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1296,6 +1296,15 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are: `custom`, `environment_variable`, 
`metastore`.
+  version_added: 2.10.5
+  type: string
+  example: ~
+  default: "custom,environment_variable,metastore"

Review Comment:
   isn't this breaking change? What is custom? Is it for rolling secret backend?
   The current order is not the same as you listed:
   
   > If you enable an alternative secrets backend, it will be searched first, 
followed by environment variables, then metastore. This search ordering is not 
configurable.
   
   Also you need to make doc changes to explain about this new functionality
   
   
https://airflow.apache.org/docs/apache-airflow/stable/security/secrets/secrets-backend/index.html#search-path



##
airflow/config_templates/config.yml:
##
@@ -1296,6 +1296,15 @@ secrets:
   sensitive: true
   example: ~
   default: ""
+backends_order:
+  description: |
+Comma-separated list of secret backends. These backends will be used 
in the order they are specified.
+Please note that the `environment_variable` and `metastore` are 
required values and cannot be removed
+from the list. Supported values are: `custom`, `environment_variable`, 
`metastore`.
+  version_added: 2.10.5

Review Comment:
   This can not be in 2.10.5 nor in 2.11 it's a new feature. Will have to wait 
for Airflow 3.



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