Re: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-09 Thread Robert Leland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/11/2003 01:52:48 PM: [snip] (Maven has some hidden acknowledgments in it's plug-in docs) says you I saw them back in September at the very bottom of page the PMD plugin docs: http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugin

Re: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-09 Thread dion
Robert Leland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/11/2003 01:52:48 PM: [snip] > (Maven has some hidden acknowledgments in it's plug-in docs) says you Huh, what are these hidden acknowldegments? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/ Pub Key:http://bl

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Did I have the right to do [develop HiveMind on WebCT's time]? > At the time, I was 100% certain I did ... No one is suggesting that you didn't act in good faith, Howard. What is making a mountain out of a molehill is your apparent unwillingness to involve the proper channels in the process. A

Re: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-05 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Robert Leland wrote: > You've acknowledged that when you commit any code to Apache you give up > ownership of that code. That's not quite right. When you commit any code to Apache (under the Contributors License Agreement), you grant the ASF a non-exclusive right to that code

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-04 Thread David Graham
/hivemind/ > http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:25 PM > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List > > Subject: RE: Company Acknowledgements [wa

Re: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-04 Thread Robert Leland
Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: So, what would you propose? Strip HiveMind out of the sandbox CVS? Track down any backup mirrors and erase them? Kidnap its users and brain wash them? You've acknowledged that when you commit any code to Apache you give up ownership of that code. Also what is said

Re: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-04 Thread Harish Krishnaswamy
I am certainly no legal expert, but if the code that resides in CVS complies with ASF requirements, how is it legally exposed? -Harish Bill Lear wrote: On Tuesday, November 4, 2003 at 20:44:23 (-0500) Howard M. Lewis Ship writes: ... So, what would you propose? Strip HiveMind out of the sand

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-04 Thread Bill Lear
On Tuesday, November 4, 2003 at 20:44:23 (-0500) Howard M. Lewis Ship writes: >... >So, what would you propose? Strip HiveMind out of the sandbox CVS? >Track down any backup mirrors and erase them? Kidnap its users and >brain wash them? Indeed --- this is absurd. We are all "legally exposed" eve

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-04 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
ns/sandbox/hivemind/ http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > -Original Message- > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:25 PM > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List > Subject: RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta] &

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Cooper
apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/ > http://javatapestry.blogspot.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:19 PM > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List > > Subject: RE: Company

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-03 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
javatapestry.blogspot.com > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:19 PM > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List > Subject: RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta] > > > > --- [EMAIL PROT

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-03 Thread David Graham
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There was an even earlier post, to Jakarta General, concerning this > question of IP. I maintain, due to the volume of code and concepts that > were copied out of (or adapted out of) Tapestry that WebCT would not win > any kind of legal challenge to the ownership of

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Howard, > There was an even earlier post, to Jakarta General, concerning this question > of IP. I maintain, due to the volume of code and concepts that were copied > out of (or adapted out of) Tapestry that WebCT would not win any kind of > legal challenge to the ownership of the IP ... but it wo

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-03 Thread hlship
There was an even earlier post, to Jakarta General, concerning this question of IP. I maintain, due to the volume of code and concepts that were copied out of (or adapted out of) Tapestry that WebCT would not win any kind of legal challenge to the ownership of the IP ... but it would be murky,

RE: Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-11-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I've been trading drafts of the proposal and I think they are > on the right track. I suspect we'll be going forward soon -- > possibly today. I can't find in the archives where you've made the Jakarta PMC or the ASF Board aware of this specific incident. When IP ownership issues arise on a pro

Company Acknowledgements [was :Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta]

2003-10-27 Thread Robert Leland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once it goes beta, I'll start monitoring the user list as well as the developer list. Unless beta coincides with promotion to top level, in which case there will be a hivemind-user and hivemind-dev lists. WebCT will be getting back to me soon to finalize the wording for

Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta

2003-10-27 Thread hlship
The worst thing I expect to happen is to rename the base package from org.apache.commons.hivemind to org.apache.hivemind. If you can deal with that, I would go ahead. Viva HiveMind! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry > Should we hol

Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta

2003-10-27 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Should we hold of on using it? I will wait a few days. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WebCT will be getting back to me soon to finalize the wording for promotion (I developed HiveMind partially on their time, so they have a say -- they want to ensure they get proper credit). -- Victor Cekvenich, Str

Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta

2003-10-27 Thread hlship
Once it goes beta, I'll start monitoring the user list as well as the developer list. Unless beta coincides with promotion to top level, in which case there will be a hivemind-user and hivemind-dev lists. WebCT will be getting back to me soon to finalize the wording for promotion (I developed H

Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta

2003-10-27 Thread Vic Cekvenich
FYI, I will be converting basicPortal.com to use HiveMind. Soon move it to the commons user list? .V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe we'll be getting to beta soon. Also, a proposal to promote HiveMind up to Jakarta top level will be coming soon. The alpha-3 version, available for download (s

Re: [HiveMind] 1.0 Beta

2003-10-27 Thread hlship
I believe we'll be getting to beta soon. Also, a proposal to promote HiveMind up to Jakarta top level will be coming soon. The alpha-3 version, available for download (see the home page) is very close to what the beta will be. There is some discussion about what features the beta will have that

[HiveMind] 1.0 Beta

2003-10-27 Thread Adam Greene
I would like to participate in the 1.0 Beta as we have a complex system that is built in Tapestry 2.2 and HiveMind looks like it could definitely be of use within the new framework that we want to implement in regards to services and Work flow, etc. Adam GreeneDirector of Software Developmen