Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea

2002-12-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 10:49 PM, Costin Manolache wrote: I'm not sure I understand what is proposed :-) it's the same old proposal. discussed at length a long time ago. have only one canonical set of basic reflection code that's easy to maintain and bug fix. However I'm strongly -

Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea

2002-12-05 Thread Costin Manolache
I'm not sure I understand what is proposed :-) However I'm strongly -1 on removing ( or deprecating ) public code in beanutils, or on adding more dependencies. It works fine and if another package wants to do reflection - that's perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean everyone else is required to s

Re: moving reflection classes out of beanutils (was: Re: [beanutils]ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea)

2002-12-05 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote: > i only threatened to -1 after trying quite a few times to get rodney to > discuss his commit. I'm not interested in starting some sort of flame war on this minor point, but for the record, I saw exactly two emails on this--one directly to my apac

Re: [beanutils] moving reflection classes out of beanutils (was: Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea)

2002-12-05 Thread Morgan Delagrange
--- robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 07:20 PM, Morgan > Delagrange wrote: > > > So it seems like the point is not > "ConstructorUtils in > > beanutils: a bad idea", but rather "Reflection > classes > > in beanutils: a bad idea". It's inappropr

Re: moving reflection classes out of beanutils (was: Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea)

2002-12-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 07:20 PM, Morgan Delagrange wrote: So it seems like the point is not "ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea", but rather "Reflection classes in beanutils: a bad idea". It's inappropriate to -1 adding ConstructorUtils to beanutils on the basis of scope, sinc

moving reflection classes out of beanutils (was: Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea)

2002-12-05 Thread Morgan Delagrange
So it seems like the point is not "ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea", but rather "Reflection classes in beanutils: a bad idea". It's inappropriate to -1 adding ConstructorUtils to beanutils on the basis of scope, since that is where such classes currently belong. If you want to move ref

Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea

2002-12-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 03:25 PM, Rodney Waldhoff wrote: Looking through the archives, I now see the thread named "[beanutils][lang][PROPOSAL] deprecated beanutils version of MethodUtils" [1] which apparently should have been flagged "[VOTE]", if that was intended to be a binding vote

Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea

2002-12-05 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
I did recall seeing some threads around lang/beanutils/reflection/clazz, indeed before I wrote ConstructorUtils I checked those places for the functionality I was looking for. Lang's ConstructorUtil class wasn't quite it, and the last commit message reads "[...] (not all working)", which wasn't exa

Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea

2002-12-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
> > Subject: Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea > > On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > > > i really think that lang is the right place for this [ConstructorUtils]. > > are there any good reasons why it needs to be in beanutils? >

Re: [beanutils] ConstructorUtils in beanutils: a bad idea

2002-12-04 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > i really think that lang is the right place for this [ConstructorUtils]. > are there any good reasons why it needs to be in beanutils? > I disagree that ConstructorUtils belongs in lang, or more accurately, I believe it is a better fit for bean