Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-28 Thread Richard Sitze
news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/27/2004 06:40:16 PM: > I think often JCL will be used as you describe, but not always. "Not always" is of less concern. Matt, the PRIMARY focus of JCL is as Ceki described. There are no if/ands/buts about it. If you choose to use it in any other fashion,

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Matt Sgarlata
I think often JCL will be used as you describe, but not always. For example, let's say I am developing a component that monitors database activity and monitors usage statistics (this is a hypothetical example). The main purpose of this component is to log messages to be processed later by a hum

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Matt, JCL exists mainly for the purpose of libraries wishing to *integrate* with the logging API chosen by the user by deferring the selection of the logging impl to runtime. The author of library "net.sf.morph" probably does *not* wish to impose any logging related property on the end-user. Conseq

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Richard Sitze
Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/27/2004 01:07:28 PM: > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:41:56 -0600, Richard Sitze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/27/2004 05:49:45 AM: > > > > > At 03:05 AM 12/27/2004, Charles Daniels wrote: > > > > > > >If I underst

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Matt Sgarlata
Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 03:05 AM 12/27/2004, Charles Daniels wrote: If I understand the JCL discovery mechanism correctly, it actually should work just fine in the scenario you describe above. For it to work, you would not set the org.apache.commons.logging.LogFactory system property, because, as you

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:41:56 -0600, Richard Sitze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/27/2004 05:49:45 AM: > > > At 03:05 AM 12/27/2004, Charles Daniels wrote: > > > > >If I understand the JCL discovery mechanism correctly, it actually > > >should work just fine

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Richard Sitze
gt; Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:24 AM > >> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org > >> Subject: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] > >> Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0? > >> > >> > >> Simon et al. > >> > >> Log4j

RE: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Richard Sitze
Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/27/2004 05:49:45 AM: > At 03:05 AM 12/27/2004, Charles Daniels wrote: > > >If I understand the JCL discovery mechanism correctly, it actually > >should work just fine in the scenario you describe above. For it to > >work, you would not set the org.apach

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:49:45 +0100, Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:05 AM 12/27/2004, Charles Daniels wrote: > > >If I understand the JCL discovery mechanism correctly, it actually > >should work just fine in the scenario you describe above. For it to > >work, you would not set the

RE: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 03:05 AM 12/27/2004, Charles Daniels wrote: If I understand the JCL discovery mechanism correctly, it actually should work just fine in the scenario you describe above. For it to work, you would not set the org.apache.commons.logging.LogFactory system property, because, as you pointed out, syst

Re: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-27 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
"Charles Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> -Original Message- >> From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:24 AM >> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org >> Subject: commons-logging auto-detectio

RE: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-26 Thread Charles Daniels
> -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:24 AM > To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org > Subject: commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] > Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0? > > >

commons-logging auto-detection WAS: [logging] Enterprise Common Logging... dare we say 2.0?

2004-12-26 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Simon et al. Log4j is slowly migrating to a model where there will be only a single log4j.jar installed per Application Server. This single copy will be installed under the ./common/lib or ./lib/ directories. See [1, 2, 3] for further details. Consider the case of single log4j.jar placed in ./commo