Tinkerphones Stammtisch Pfalz

Hi all, there is a small group of us who think about having a "Stammisch Pfalz" in August, maybe on 20th. Location is to be defined in the area between Pirmasens, Kaiserslautern, Landau, Grünstadt. Please let us know if you are interested to attend so that we can better estimate participation

1st notice: Letux/GTA04 Kernel- and Userspace-Hacking weekend

Hi all, we (OpenPhoenux community Munich) are organizing a kernel- and user-space hacking weekend to improve the Letux/GTA04 kernel and to make progress on matching QtMoko with newer kernels and latest Debian. This workshop is planned to have two groups: a) Kernel - to work on the known (and new)

OpenPhoenux Stammtisch München

Hi, just in case you are not aware of and subscribed to the special „Stammtisch“-list, here the announcement that the next (german language) „Stammtisch“ in Munich is in its planning phase: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/stammtisch/2015-August/90.html Please register yourself and add

[ANN]: decided to start production for GTA04A5 boards

Hi, we finally decided to start the production of the GTA04A5 [1] boards and use the ~40 plastic cases we have recently received to also build a batch of complete Letux 2804 [2] devices. And we have secured a set of GTM601W modem modules. Details will follow. Thanks for your patience. Stay tune

Re: [Gta04-owner] OpenPhoenux and GTA04 at CCCamp?

Hi, Am 24.07.2015 um 18:53 schrieb Paul Kocialkowski : > Next month, CCCamp will take place near Berlin, Germany. > The event is a great occasion to highlight the GTA04 project and our > OpenPhoenux community at large. Neo900 folks already plan on attending > and will organize a Neo village: > ht

Linux gta04 4.1.0-rc4-gta04+ #1096 SMP Tue May 19 13:58:31 CEST 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux

We are proud to have this kernel available for testing [1]. What is new: * we have fixed a NULL pointer issue in the bq27x00 driver which was introduced by 4.1-rc1 * we are preparing for DT support of the camera module; the OMAP3 ISP (Image Signal Processor) should already be configured correctl

Re: Staus update GTA04A5

Hi, Am 12.05.2015 um 11:18 schrieb NeilBrown : > On Mon, 11 May 2015 09:37:07 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> you may wonder what is going on with this project. Did it turn into a black >> hole? Or >> did someone do a “rm -rf /“ :) >

Staus update GTA04A5

Hi all, you may wonder what is going on with this project. Did it turn into a black hole? Or did someone do a “rm -rf /“ :) No, nothing of that. Therefore, I think we owe you some short status update on this project. There hasn’t been much to report in the last months, but now we have several

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

Hi, Am 21.03.2015 um 13:44 schrieb Matthias Apitz : > El día Saturday, March 21, 2015 a las 12:02:13PM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus > Schaller escribió: > >> >> Am 20.03.2015 um 21:40 schrieb Norayr Chilingarian : >> >>> meanwhile, let's not forge

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

Am 20.03.2015 um 21:40 schrieb Norayr Chilingarian : > meanwhile, let's not forget that Ubuntu Touch can be ported to thus > installed on GTA04/5 board. Yes, you are right! Sometimes we simply don’t see the obvious… Goldelico would support such a port as good as possible. What do you need? BR

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

Am 16.03.2015 um 15:38 schrieb Alfa21-mobile : > > > Well, that is not the goal of the GTA04A5 project. It was focussed right from > the beginning (and therefore still is) to give > those who already have a GTA02 a much more powerful processor and some newer > peripherals. > > Like a replace

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

Hi, I had not planned to make it a statement-reply session, but it has converted into one :) Am 16.03.2015 um 14:47 schrieb Alfa21-mobile : > Hi *, > > I think it’s difficult to gain interest of new users if a new user must buy > an old casing first of being able to use the new hardware > >

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

Hi, Am 16.03.2015 um 13:40 schrieb Neal H. Walfield : > At Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:43:51 +0100, > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> For our community products we have: because 1, there is no 2 and because 2 >> there is no 1. >> >> What makes the difference? Some i

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

Hi Ed, Am 16.03.2015 um 09:58 schrieb Ed Kapitein : >> < >> Interesting. >> >> Makes me curious why you both spend money on that one instead of e.g. the >> GTA04A5? >> >> Any answer is valid - and no need to be polite… >> >> I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such thi

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

Hi, Am 16.03.2015 um 09:00 schrieb Matthias Apitz : > El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 08:46:09AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: > >>> What I'm asking me, and want to ask here: How thy 'paint' the picture >>> from the apps written in HTML5 or QML to the display? Is this as well at >>> the end o

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04A5 - status + FAQ

Am 13.02.2015 um 17:32 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak : > Hi, > > Thanks for this great follow-up! I have one question: > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: >> And yes, this funding campaign runs very slowly. Since it is a very spec

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04A5 - status + FAQ

Am 13.02.2015 um 07:54 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller : > Hi, > a short status update for this project: > > 1. we have reached 42 preorders [1] - please continue to think about ordering > one as well… > 2. we plan to integrate a new barometer sensor BME280 with integrated

GTA04A5 - status

Hi, a short status update for this project: 1. we have reached 42 preorders [1] - please continue to think about ordering one as well… 2. we plan to integrate a new barometer sensor BME280 with integrated humidity sensor so the GTA04A5 can be used as weather station - or for checking your ro

ANN 2: new gta04-makesd for preparing bootable SD cards

Hi, as written in the 3.19.0-kernel announcement, we now support more and more different hardware devices by the kernel. To simplify creating bootable SD cards for such a plethora of devices, there is also a new makesd script. No longer one for each device, doing dirty tricks, but a generic one th

ANN 1: gta04-kernel 3.19.0

Hi, we have upgraded the gta04-kernel to 3.19.0 which by itself does not change much or fix significant issues, but we have achieved something we think is awesome: The kernel now also runs on the OMAP3530 based OpenPandora! We did just develop and debug a new device tree. Not everything is workin

Re: Where Can I Get A GTA04 Camera?

Hi Alexander, Am 31.12.2014 um 01:09 schrieb Alexander .S.T. Ross : > is the optional camera fully supported now? according to the manual it > isn’t. so what is it now? The status is that it is supported by the 3.12.7 kernel, but not optimized (the position of the image is shifted). The newer

Re: Free gta02

Am 02.12.2014 um 20:19 schrieb Philip Rhoades : > People, > > I have not been using this for a while - happy to give it to a more useful > home if someone is prepared to pay for postage. Maybe also something to consider is to give it a new life through a new motherboard: http://download.gold

Community Event: OHSW in Munich

Hi, with just 4 weeks left to our yearly OHSW even in Munich, planning is getting on speed. Lukas has updated and translated the web page to english since we welcome participants from all over the world. For details, please go here: http://www.ohsw.de And, it is still time to propose presentati

[Community] 6th OpenPhoenux Workshop

Invitation for Participation Call for Presentations and Sessions 6th public OpenPhoenux Hard and Software Workshop 29.11.-30.11.2014, 9:30-18:00 TUM Campus Garching, „Mathematik & Informatik“ More details here: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/community/attachments/20141002/3d5b3bfa/attachme

Re: [Gta04-owner] Special offer Letux 3704

Reminder! Please think about more interesting project ideas for this device! And the offer is serious - your price is ours (even if 1 € - if the idea is excellent). BR, Nikolaus Am 31.07.2014 um 11:06 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller : > Hi, > as you probably know, the Letux 2804

Re: Indiephone.eu

Am 28.06.2014 um 11:17 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Hi, > there appears to be a new initiative which is taking all our values > (openness, freedom, community development, ) and casting it into a new name: > > http://indiephone.eu/faq/ > > "The most com

Indiephone.eu

Hi, there appears to be a new initiative which is taking all our values (openness, freedom, community development, ) and casting it into a new name: http://indiephone.eu/faq/ "The most common answer to that is that no other product is currently attempting to solve the problem as Indie P

Re: ping

We have some offers: * GTA04A5 fund raising * GTA02, used (with voucher for GTA04A5) * Letux 3704 * replacement display * ZAGG invisible shield for Openmoko * Letux 400 minibook For details see http://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php Nikolaus Am 17.06.2014 um 08:26 schrieb Christoph Pulster : > An

Re: GTA02 broken screen / What Nice Projekts to Do Without a Screen or Would Other Screens Work

Am 12.05.2014 um 20:18 schrieb Ed Kapitein: > On 05/10/2014 05:23 PM, Francesco De Vita wrote: >>> If you think this is something you would like to try, please let me >>> know, so i can provide you with the kernel and the rootfs image for you >>> to flash. >>> You need to write some scripts to fi

Re: sensors on GTA04

Am 02.04.2014 um 03:17 schrieb L. B.: > Hi, > > I'd like to play with the compass but the info from the documentation page > does not correspond with what I got on my phone (using qtmoko v58). The page > I use is that one: > http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/page/Sensors/ > > In th

Re: Openmoko GTA06

Am 02.04.2014 um 05:00 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: > Oh, and if someone were to build your April Fool's device for real, it > should NOT be called GTA-anything, because it is not GSM-TI-AGPS. I The only reference to this secret naming convention is: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/communi

Re: Openmoko GTA06

Am 01.04.2014 um 11:53 schrieb Neil Jerram: > On 2014-04-01 10:26, shamsul hassan wrote: >> April Fool :) >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I have received a rumor that somebody is working on a truly fre

Openmoko GTA06

Hi all, I have received a rumor that somebody is working on a truly free and open phone with the following specs: * Quad-Core Intel Z3770D (1.5 - 2.5 GHz) * 4GB RAM * 128 GB eMMC * LTE with free and open baseband * 5 inch full HD display * <100g * 4000 mAh battery * runs any x86 OS (i.e. Linux,

Re: GSM frequency bands in the USA

Am 21.02.2014 um 18:51 schrieb Andrew Schenck: > I can corroborate that report. Bought my FR from Belgium, so I presume its > the 900/1800/1900 version, but I haven't found any way to verify that. 1. remove battery cover 2. take out battery 3. look at serial number sticker under battery 4. h

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

Am 21.02.2014 um 10:36 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: >> I invite every = >> remaining Openmoko GTA01/02 owner to cannibalize their device for a = >> GTA04A5 motherboard. > > There is a special place in Hell reserved for murderers of good free > hardware like you. ROFL - you are believing in Hell

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > How has that been determined? Please find the answer and tell us

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

Am 21.02.2014 um 10:03 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline > > Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste > time on the kernel

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

Am 21.02.2014 um 08:26 schrieb Radek Polak: > On Thursday, February 20, 2014 08:38:35 PM Michael Spacefalcon wrote: > > > I am also convinced that the *real* reason why "Openmoko = failure" in > > the general public's perception is precisely because of that NDA and > > no one having broken it d

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

> Of course it will never happen legally, but so what? We can build it > illegally instead. You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: IMEI changing kit for GTA02

Am 19.02.2014 um 12:21 schrieb Christoph Pulster: > Hi, > > its nice to see, outlaw Michael's activities cause some life in this > list. > > @Nikolaus: damn to UK laws, Michael is providing a tool to change IMEI, > no more no less. Besides legal issues, I miss the thanks to Michaels > eff

Re: IMEI changing kit for GTA02

Am 19.02.2014 um 09:09 schrieb Christoph Pulster: > Michael, this is great work ! AFAIK this is the first toolkit allowing > easy change of IMEI, impressive. > The applaus is very limited here, it seems most people left are hardcore > Linux/FOSS geeks which do not understand the concept of y

Re: [Community] [Limesco-leden] OpenPhoenux@FOSDEM2014

Hi, Am 06.02.2014 um 11:00 schrieb Parchet Michaël: > Hello, > > Is there some video or photo of this weekend ? You will find them here: https://fosdem.org/2014/news/2014-02-03-videos/ But as the maintainers say: "The videos are not online yet, despite what you might think." __

Re: [Community] FOSDEM 2014 - meetup?

Am 01.02.2014 um 21:45 schrieb Boudewijn: > Hi list, > > Who is in Brussels for FOSDEM? > > I'll be there tomorrow, at least part of the day at the OpenPandora stand. It > would be great to meet some people again. Anyone else around? > I am not in Brussels this year, but please say hello t

Re: Kernel 3.x and Freerunner

Am 30.01.2014 um 11:54 schrieb Mike Crash: > Hello, > > last two years I was busy with other private stuff, now I have returned > to my old projects and also my Neo. I have completely rewritten my > software and I want to compile it for Neo. But new software is not > compatible with old kernel (

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

Am 17.01.2014 um 19:13 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> Not everybody is weighting the factor of "freeable down to the modem" equally >> when calculating the relative position of two devices to decide between >> "upgrade

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

o decide between "upgrade" and "downgrade". You have a different weighting than me. Both are equally "right minded". Am 16.01.2014 um 21:31 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> Why do you assume that your (IMHO unlawfu

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

Am 16.01.2014 um 17:55 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> So please think again if you want to upgrade your GTA02 with a GTA04A5 board. > > Upgrade? Surely you must have meant downgrade - why would anyone in > his or her right mind

[Community] GTA04A5 / Letux 2804

Hi, it is time to take a look onto the GTA04A5 campaign. We have currently collected pledges for 19 units. This is good, but not enough to start a new production run to reach a fairly reasonable final price for those preorders. The calculation is simple. The setup cost of a new production run f

Re: QtMoko v58 with 2.6.39 kernel and improved power management

Hi Radek, Am 12.12.2013 um 10:09 schrieb Radek Polak: > Hi, > QtMoko v58 for Freerunner is now out! You can download here [1] and visit our > homepage [2] for more info. +++ > Btw - anyone has working GPS on Freerunner? I cant get fix and it seems it's > not SW problem. It would be nice to ha

Re: the second operating system

Hi, Am 09.12.2013 um 19:32 schrieb Norayr Chilingarian: > > There is an osnews article named "The second operating system hiding in > every mobile phone", and I guess some people in this list may be > interested. Not that we didn't know about it, just wanted to share an > article with you. > >

Re: Fundraising for GTA04A5 has started!

Am 22.11.2013 um 17:21 schrieb Lukas Märdian: > Am 22.11.2013 23:23, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: >> >> Am 22.11.2013 um 15:46 schrieb Pascal Gosselin: >> >>> >>> What about GPS specifications ? My company would have interest in multiple >>

Re: Fundraising for GTA04A5 has started!

Am 22.11.2013 um 15:46 schrieb Pascal Gosselin: > > What about GPS specifications ? My company would have interest in multiple > units if the GPS chip was capable of 5Hz or greater updates. Recent GPS > chipsets all seem to have GPS/GLONASS capability, which is very nice to have. I think we

Re: Fundraising for GTA04A5 has started!

Hi, Am 22.11.2013 um 12:17 schrieb Dominic Walden: > What are the likely power consumption improvements in the A5? There are some power consumption related things planned: 1. separate the GPIOs to control power of RS232 and IrDA so that both can be switched off in suspend state - this should sa

Fundraising for GTA04A5 has started!

Hi all, after solving some issues, we finally have started the fundraising campaign for producing more GTA04 boards (revision GTA04A5 having improvements). So the story continues! And we have good news for those who don't own or want to cannibalise their GTA01/02: we have stock of a bunch of used

Re: GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

Hi, Am 13.11.2013 um 22:46 schrieb thomasg: > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: >> >> Am 08.11.2013 um 23:08 schrieb Michael Parchet: >> >> Hello, >> >> Sorry I found only GTA04A4 but not GTA04A5 with LTE for pre or

Re: GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

time to do it. You know world economy has changed, attitudes for openness, freerom have changed and people are no longer following that much the top 2 brands. I.e. please wait for a new announcement. BR, Nikolaus > > Thanks for your answer > > Best regards > > mparche

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

Am 07.11.2013 um 00:02 schrieb NeilBrown: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:20:01 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" > wrote: > > Seeing you are considering trying again for the GTA04a5, I thought I might > re-visit these issues: > > >> >> Am 22.01.2013 um

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

Am 07.11.2013 um 13:03 schrieb Benjamin Deering: > On 11/06/2013 06:02 PM, NeilBrown wrote: >> >> . >> >> Maybe in the spirit of openness a vote might be instructive. >> Does anyone actually want stereo aux input through the 2.5mm jack? >> Does anyone actually want to listen to the FM radi

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

Am 16.10.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: > Balint Szente writes: >> Isn't the situation the same with osmocombb as well? >> >> Based on what is written here: >> >> can osmocombb considered free softw

Re: Kickstarter: Open Source Graphics Processor (GPU)

Am 12.10.2013 um 19:23 schrieb Ian Stirling: > > On 10/12/2013 05:43 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> The main fear I have is that there is not enough funding because nobody can >> really use it in daily work without investing another lots of money (to >>

Re: Kickstarter: Open Source Graphics Processor (GPU)

Am 09.10.2013 um 22:29 schrieb Raphael Wimmer: > Sounds interesting (in the long term): > > "Complete Verilog implementation of a 2D/ 3D graphics processor capable of > OpenGL and D3D w/ full test suite" > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/725991125/open-source-graphics-processor-gpu Oh, yes

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 06.10.2013 um 08:42 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Hi Bob, > > Am 05.10.2013 um 12:12 schrieb Bob Ham: > >> On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 07:50 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> >>> Neither the Openmoko, OpenPandora, Ubuntu Edge, GTA04 are >>>

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Hi Bob, Am 05.10.2013 um 12:12 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 07:50 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> Neither the Openmoko, OpenPandora, Ubuntu Edge, GTA04 are >> "open hardware" - and never were intended to be. > > That isn't what

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

. > > I disagree. I've quoted a number of different bodies on their idea of > what constitutes open hardware and they all concur. And I claim the right to have another idea. We are not in "1984". > > Meanwhile: > > On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 07:50 +0200, Dr. H. Ni

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 20:10 schrieb Martin Jansa: > On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:37:59PM +, Bob Ham wrote: >> On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 17:17 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>> Am 05.10.2013 um 12:12 schrieb Bob Ham: >>> >>>> On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 07:5

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 19:37 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 17:17 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 05.10.2013 um 12:12 schrieb Bob Ham: >> >>> On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 07:50 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>> >>>> Neither the

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 17:42 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > > Am 05.10.2013 um 14:14 schrieb Bob Ham: > >> On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 14:07 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> >>> I can agree that the usage of "free >>> hardware" term may be a bi

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 14:14 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 14:07 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > >> I can agree that the usage of "free >> hardware" term may be a bit confusing. > > Describing the GTA04 as "Open Hardware" on openphoenux.org is, I > believe, not just confusing but di

Re: The "open hardware" phone project that's had the most interest

Am 05.10.2013 um 17:19 schrieb joerg Reisenweber: > In the last 50 years I've seen only _one_ truly modular concept for > electronic > circuits that would basically meet the flexibility requirements you are > asking > for: > http://makezine.com/2011/12/08/the-braun-lectron-system-retro-circu

Re: The "open hardware" phone project that's had the most interest

Am 05.10.2013 um 17:14 schrieb Pascal Gosselin: > On 2013-10-05 11:06 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Pascal Gosselin >> wrote: >>> If technically feasible >> That's the problem. >> > What immediately jumps to my mind is the small number of pins for the >

Re: The "open hardware" phone project that's had the most interest

Am 05.10.2013 um 17:06 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Pascal Gosselin wrote: >> If technically feasible > > That's the problem. ++ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.ope

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 14:14 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 14:07 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > >> I can agree that the usage of "free >> hardware" term may be a bit confusing. > > Describing the GTA04 as "Open Hardware" on openphoenux.org is, I > believe, not just confusing but di

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 12:12 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 07:50 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> Neither the Openmoko, OpenPandora, Ubuntu Edge, GTA04 are >> "open hardware" - and never were intended to be. > > That isn't what your Open

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 08:28 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> You are mixing Free dom with Free Beer. > > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html > >> But: some people are able to jump out of the window. S

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 05.10.2013 um 05:09 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> I already told you that the hardware source files are open and public. > > I agree with Bob Ham on this. The source files are not public and even > the PDFs a

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 04.10.2013 um 21:26 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 20:16 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 04.10.2013 um 19:48 schrieb Bob Ham: > >>> I don't think FSF has a definition of "Free Hardware". Possibly we're >>> ascribing

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 04.10.2013 um 19:48 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 21:32 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 03.10.2013 um 20:09 schrieb Bob Ham: > >>> I would note that the GTA04 is not a Free Hardware project. >> >> Yes that is correct. It is no

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 03.10.2013 um 20:09 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 23:15 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> It would have its own cost (in money and in size), but in the long run, >> I hope the benefits of relying on standardized interfaces would make up >> for it. >> >> From what I can tell, Free

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Hi, Am 03.10.2013 um 05:15 schrieb Stefan Monnier: >> Production problems show almost immediately, even if there is only one >> person. And they show after making let's say 20 units. > > As you know, that has not been the experience with the GTA02, where > audio quality output (works fine for l

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

et > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > >> Le 26 sept. 2013 à 11:18, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" a >> écrit : >> >> >>> Am 26.09.2013 um 11:06 schrieb Parchet Michaël: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Is there a device on pro

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

> Best regards > > mparchet > >> Le 25 sept. 2013 à 21:32, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" a >> écrit : >> >> >> Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier: >> >>>> I don't see reliability as a problem because it d

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier: >> I don't see reliability as a problem because it depends on what type >> of reliability you are thinking of: component, software, hardware, >> production, or availability. > > Small production runs means very few people have a chance of > discover

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Hi Stefan, Am 25.09.2013 um 05:01 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > The main problem I see with such Free and/or Open phone is the "small > production" syndrome. Small productions mean high prices and low > reliability, whereas we need reasonable prices and reliability. Yes, small production is the key

Re: Labour conditions and mineral sources

Hi kardan, Am 24.09.2013 um 04:52 schrieb kardan: > Hi, > > I would like to add production stories to the website. Also more info > about the companies that produces the prototypes so far would be nice. > There is nothing available about hardware[1] or involved companies what > I could put to th

Fwd: [Community] 5th OpenPhoenux Hard&Software Workshop in Munich, Germany

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Von: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" > Datum: 11. September 2013 10:22:23 MESZ > An: OpenPhoenux Community > Betreff: [Community] 5th OpenPhoenux Hard&Software Workshop in Munich, Germany > Antwort an: OpenPhoenux Community &

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

Am 26.08.2013 um 14:35 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: > Hello! > > Short introduction, as I was rather inactive in this community > recently: I'm dos, long time Openmoko supporter, owner of GTA02 and > (now broken) Nokia N900. Few years ago I was quite an active developer > of FSO (opimd) and S

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

Am 26.08.2013 um 16:24 schrieb Tomas Nackaerts: > Hi all! > > I actually think this is a great idea! I always liked the N900 formfactor. > But > is it technically possible? I remember somebody mention that the option modem > is quite big? Yes, but it is the flattest one we could get. And fro

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 22:08 schrieb Paul Wise: > For the GTA04 adapter board you are already distributing the files > that Bob Ham is asking for (AFAICT - not an EE). > > http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/ > > The adapter board license (CC-BY-SA) is more friendly than the GTA04

Re: Going outside - GTA04 website

Am 24.08.2013 um 18:11 schrieb Lukas Märdian: > Am 24.08.2013 17:36, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: >> I've also created quick draft by myself: http://dosowisko.net/gta04/ Wow, that looks good! Almost like a kickstarter project page :) BR, Nikolaus ___

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 20:49 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-24 18:41, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham: > >>> I would appreciate it if you would answer my questions about helping >>> others create derivatives of the GTA04. &

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 20:42 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-24 18:32, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham: >>> >>> There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a >>> format suitable for making modific

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:26 +, Bob Ham wrote: > >> Even disregarding this reasoning, let's assume that it *is* just about >> convenience. Why is that bad? Why would you not want to help people >> take the GTA04 design and create a derivative? Why

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham: > > There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a > format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's a > barrier to freedom. It can be abused. I don't understand that. The reason of open source is that you ca

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

Am 24.08.2013 um 13:36 schrieb joerg Reisenweber: > On Sat 24 August 2013 13:00:45 Bob Ham wrote: >> On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>>> Why are you still a member of this community >> >> I want freedom. I want a phone that r

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone

Hi Radek, Am 24.08.2013 um 14:22 schrieb Radek Polak: > On Friday, August 23, 2013 10:21:33 PM arne anka wrote: > >> the missing money is just the indicator for this project's failure to >> create sufficient public interest or even awareness. >> while the GTA01/2 was a nice idea, it was already

Re: production & displays

Am 24.08.2013 um 12:57 schrieb kardan: > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:36:42 +0200 > "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > >> If 200 people agree to put 599 EUR on the table we could start >> production tomorrow (well, we need 6-8 weeks to get the components) >> an

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

Am 24.08.2013 um 01:51 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > > > On the Road --- hns > > Am 23.08.2013 um 22:45 schrieb Bob Ham : > >> On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>> Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham: >>>

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Hi Bob, Am 24.08.2013 um 02:10 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:20 +0200, joerg Reisenweber wrote: > >> Can't you finally come up with some *suggestions* or - even >> better - real actions that would help? > > At present the community is beholden to a particular company which > prod

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

On the Road --- hns Am 23.08.2013 um 22:45 schrieb Bob Ham : > On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham: >> >>> On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>>> Am 23.08.2013 um 1

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

Am 23.08.2013 um 17:05 schrieb kardan: > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:45:20 + > Bob Ham wrote: > >> On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>> Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham: >>> >>>> On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote: &g

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