Re: External battery charger

2009-01-01 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Bill, William Kenworthy wrote: > Or with a recent uboot - plug into usb and wait for 10-15 minutes. > Remove usb and battery for 30 seconds, plug back in and it should > bootup. You may need to remove/replug the usb to make sure its charging > properly once up. > > USB

Re: External battery charger

2009-01-01 Thread Jan Henkins
n though at £16/€20 odd they are hardly cheap. This is preferable, since the batteries made by FIC has circuitry in them that the Nokia batteries lack. The idea is to get an external charger that can charge specifically the FIC battery, not a Nokia battery. -- Regards,

Re: External battery charger

2009-01-01 Thread Olivier Berger
Jan Henkins writes: > Hello all, > > Hope somebody can help: > > I perpetrated the "cardinal sin" to let my FR battery run completely > empty, so now I cannot boot up to charge the battery. FAQ ? : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Battery Please peop

Re: External battery charger

2008-12-31 Thread William Kenworthy
Or with a recent uboot - plug into usb and wait for 10-15 minutes. Remove usb and battery for 30 seconds, plug back in and it should bootup. You may need to remove/replug the usb to make sure its charging properly once up. USB defaults to 100ma, not enough to boot the FR, but it will

Re: External battery charger

2008-12-31 Thread Ian Stephen
Quoting Jan Henkins : > Hello all, > > Hope somebody can help: > > I perpetrated the "cardinal sin" to let my FR battery run completely > empty, > In the meantime, is there any (non-destructive) way to coax the FR into > life with the flat battery, so that I

Re: External battery charger

2008-12-31 Thread Daryl Styrk
azmodie wrote: > My freerunner has been in my bag all week. i found if you hold the aux > button in. then plug in the external charger. it boots to nor flash. > > azmodie > > p.s. Happy GNU Year > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lis

Re: External battery charger

2008-12-31 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello azmodie, azmodie wrote: > My freerunner has been in my bag all week. i found if you hold the aux > button in. then plug in the external charger. it boots to nor flash. > Genius! Thanks a stack! :-) > p.s. Happy GNU Year > Same to you! -- Regards, Jan Henkins

Re: External battery charger

2008-12-31 Thread azmodie
My freerunner has been in my bag all week. i found if you hold the aux button in. then plug in the external charger. it boots to nor flash. azmodie p.s. Happy GNU Year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmo

External battery charger

2008-12-31 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello all, Hope somebody can help: I perpetrated the "cardinal sin" to let my FR battery run completely empty, so now I cannot boot up to charge the battery. I have purchased a generic external charger (meant for Nokia batteries, same form-factor as the FIC battery), but it does

Re: Battery arrived On Time and on Perfect Condition (Was: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery)

2008-12-26 Thread Steve Mosher
t they have the good-will to send me a > battery, and later they provided me with the tracking-id of the new > package. > > And exactly on week later, Wednesday on Dec 17th i got hold of the new > battery. > I installed it on my FR, and there it was... > the power-button turned

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-25 Thread Steve Mosher
] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:33 PM > To: List for Openmoko community discussion > Subject: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL > > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:11 -0800, "Sargun Dhillon" > wrote: >> Joel, any update on this?

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-25 Thread Steve Mosher
You can find out the version you have via software query. otherwise take the front faceplate off and see the PCB rev printed there. There are roughly 3K V5 in the feild all built early on.. in june/july I believe, so the datecode can also give you a clue. There is no rework for a5-a6. the differe

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-22 Thread john dowd
ne if its full or not, the application will cause the phone to "gurgle" with the appropriate pitch in sound that you would get if the FR's battery was full, half emtpy or empty. This would be way kewl!! Cheers!! 2008/12/20 François TOURDE : > Le 14230ième jour après Epoch, &g

Battery arrived On Time and on Perfect Condition (Was: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery)

2008-12-22 Thread ankostis
Hi, i'm glad to report that the whole matter resolved well. Hours after i had post my complaints on Dec 10 i received an email from Truebox explaining me that they have the good-will to send me a battery, and later they provided me with the tracking-id of the new package. And exactly on

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-20 Thread François TOURDE
ERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU # General Public License for more details. # # TODO # # Change List # # 2008-11-17: First release # First, the default values: BAT_CAPACITY=/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity BAT_PLUGGED=/sys/devices/platform/bq27

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-19 Thread Fox Mulder
Petr Vanek wrote: >> With an FSO based system you could do this easily with help of oevents. >> In the file /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml exists two entries >> for actions to be taken when the battery is nearly empty. You could >> easily edit these entries and do

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-19 Thread Petr Vanek
>With an FSO based system you could do this easily with help of oevents. >In the file /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml exists two entries >for actions to be taken when the battery is nearly empty. You could >easily edit these entries and do LED actions or play some sound files. &

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-18 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 17. Dezember 2008 schrieb Esben Stien: > Steve Mosher writes: > > > If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a > > program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise > > your hand, drop me a mail. > > I've talked to a local electronics repair shop her

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Depending on your distribution, that should be a one-liner in the rules. See how we blink the red power led on critical status and add an AudioActoin there. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/

Re: Answer from Joerg (was: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL)

2008-12-18 Thread Vasco Névoa
I did the big-c buzzing rework myself, with the precious help of a much more smd-experienced colleague. It was very difficult to replace the resistor because of the proximity of the components around the mic. A very sharp soldering iron is critical. I used a 1k resistor (didn't have a 2k2 of

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-18 Thread Al Johnson
wer up from wall power > > > > without > > > >> battery) > > > > It's a bigger C1767 - according to the schematics it's 4.7uF on A5, 47uF > > on A6 > > and 100uF on A7. Werner's writeup of the investigations is here: > > > > http

Answer from Joerg (was: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL)

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Joel Newkirk writes: > Still waiting for an answer from OM. (I posted a question in this thread > Friday regarding Tanatalum instead of Ceramic cap - the difference being > $0.25 vs $2 each in qty 100, and my radio guy thinks Tant is a good choice > for filtering, but waiting for word from Steve o

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Lothar Behrens
n the morning would be an option to check the battery. It even wakes up, or boots, if I have shut down the phone :-) If the clock is not at a really alarm time (to wake me up :-), it could configure the next wakeup to check the battery. Is that a solution if PMU doesn't support us wi

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:00:34 +, Al Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: >> I don't know what the physical >> difference is for the power tweak. (V6 can power up from wall power > without >> battery) > > It's a bigger

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread W.Kenworthy
What distro? - clock doesnt work on 2008.9 through to the current testing. BillK On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:12 +0100, Lothar Behrens wrote: > Hmm, > > > using the clock to wake me up in the morning would be an option to > check the > battery. > > > It even wakes u

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Fox Mulder
With an FSO based system you could do this easily with help of oevents. In the file /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml exists two entries for actions to be taken when the battery is nearly empty. You could easily edit these entries and do LED actions or play some sound files. The relevant

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Mateusz Skowroński : > > Hi, > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_find_out_what_version_of_hardware_I_have.3F Many thanks; I don't know how my googling missed that! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmo

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
ability to 'update' to the V6 >>> hardware fixes. >> >> Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. >> Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside, but couldn't find anything >> clear yet. >> >> Neil > > Tak

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: > I don't know what the physical > difference is for the power tweak. (V6 can power up from wall power without > battery) It's a bigger C1767 - according to the schematics it's 4.7uF on A5, 47uF on A6 and 100uF on A7.

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Mateusz Skowroński
2008/12/17 Neil Jerram : > 2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk : >> >> I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and >> whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 >> hardware fixes. > > Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. > Tried

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Joel Newkirk
fixes. > > Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. > Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside, but couldn't find anything > clear yet. > > Neil Take out the battery, SIM and uSD. Where the contacts for the uSD meet the PC board there wi

RE: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Staley, Daniel L
...@newkirk.us] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:33 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:11 -0800, "Sargun Dhillon" wrote: > Joel, any update on this? Still waiting for an answer from

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Lothar Behrens writes: > Is that a solution if PMU doesn't support us with another solution ? Sure, make the phone wake up every 2 hours to check battery level. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hmm, using the clock to wake me up in the morning would be an option to check the battery. It even wakes up, or boots, if I have shut down the phone :-) If the clock is not at a really alarm time (to wake me up :-), it could configure the next wakeup to check the battery. Is that a

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread William Kenworthy
Doesnt it already do that - I know that in the middle of the night I used to get regularly awakened by a "sht" sound from the Fr as the battery ran out - oh wait, you mean before ... :) Its actually a good idea - I use a couple of perl scripts to flash the leds in various colour

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Lothar Behrens
Am 17.12.2008 um 13:16 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Lothar Behrens writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done this is a starting point :-) Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do th

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread leonardo
Timo Juhani Lindfors ha scritto: > Lothar Behrens writes: >> Is there a way to do this ? > > while true; do > if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then > alert > fi > sleep 120 > done > It has passed quite a long time since I upgraded the bootloader, does

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Lothar Behrens writes: > Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done > Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and > do this warning ? I'm guessing yes but I do not know the PMU stuff well. ___

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Lothar Behrens : > Hi, > I am asking me if it is not possible to get an acustic 'empty battery' > warning some time before my phone really get's down. > Is there a way to do this ? Qtopia 4.3.2 on FR does it, so I guess there

Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hi, I am asking me if it is not possible to get an acustic 'empty battery' warning some time before my phone really get's down. Is there a way to do this ? Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? Hope there is a solutio

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk : > > I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and > whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 > hardware fixes. Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside,

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-16 Thread Steve Mosher
e purchased single pack + debug board at beginning of september. On > the green paper strip around the black box is clearly printed : > > "Package includes: USB cable, stylus+laser pen, AC adapter, 1200mAh Li-ion > rechargable battery". i changed the green strip in october a

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-16 Thread Joel Newkirk
ware fixes. I know of the cap on the uSD pins fix for the GPS vs uSD issue (though not the identity of that capacitor), I don't know what change allows a V6 to run without battery or if other differences exist. Dropping a cap on the two pins of the uSD socket is pretty trivial if you'

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-16 Thread Sargun Dhillon
Joel, any update on this? On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Joel Newkirk wrote: > I'm going to talk to the guys at work tomorrow and show them the rework PDF > - we are equipped to make this fix, could probably offer it inexpensively > to those nearby (southeastern North Carolina) or those willing

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-16 Thread Esben Stien
Steve Mosher writes: > If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a > program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise > your hand, drop me a mail. I've talked to a local electronics repair shop here in Bergen, Norway and they said they will do this operatio

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-12 Thread Joel Newkirk
Quick question for Steve/Jeorg: Would a 3528 package capacitor fit? And if so, would Tantalum be suitable instead of Ceramic? My guy here says he'd chose tantalum for filter use like this, and the cost difference is dramatic, though the size is larger than the ceramic shown in the pdf. (price d

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-12 Thread Rus
d the black box is clearly printed : "Package includes: USB cable, stylus+laser pen, AC adapter, 1200mAh Li-ion rechargable battery". So when I visit http://openmoko.com/product-include.html - there was no mention at all that part of the listed package content is a gift ;) Anyway, it

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread Steve Mosher
shipping the 512MB cards as they are difficult to source. check the green label on the box exterior. It should have the proper box contents. Rus wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, ankostis wrote: > > :as a last resort i'm reporting publicly my problems regarding a > :broken-on-arr

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-11 Thread Joel Newkirk
I'm going to talk to the guys at work tomorrow and show them the rework PDF - we are equipped to make this fix, could probably offer it inexpensively to those nearby (southeastern North Carolina) or those willing to ship. (among other things - like security systems and internet services - we repair

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-11 Thread Steve Mosher
If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise your hand, drop me a mail. st...@openmoko.com Sargun Dhillon wrote: > Very cool. > > Now, all the hardware hackers out there who want to make a buck to fix > our Fr

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread Neil Jerram
Not to deny or minimize anything that others have said in this thread, but just to provide a balancing data point... I personally had excellent service from TrueBox. No problems, and always courteous emails. I hope they will quickly make amends in ankostis' case, and I also hope that they will s

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread Rus
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, ankostis wrote: :as a last resort i'm reporting publicly my problems regarding a :broken-on-arrival battery from Truebox.com after i had ordered from :them OpenMoko's FR, on August 2008. You are lucky - my case is somewhat funnier - I've purchased the Neo

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread ankostis
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:55 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ankostis' words "i had personally instructed you" suggest to me that >> he may be a demanding & unwelcome customer - if I were writing I would >> "advise you" to choose a service with tracking capabilities > > well, it might b

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread Marcel
Am Thursday 11 December 2008 14:55:09 schrieb arne anka: > > ankostis' words "i had personally instructed you" suggest to me that > > he may be a demanding & unwelcome customer - if I were writing I would > > "advise you" to choose a service with tracking capabilities > > well, it might be due to t

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread arne anka
> ankostis' words "i had personally instructed you" suggest to me that > he may be a demanding & unwelcome customer - if I were writing I would > "advise you" to choose a service with tracking capabilities well, it might be due to the fact that he is no native speaker -- i do not know modern gre

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread rakshat hooja
ed to pay > Fed Ex or someone £80 or more to get a battery to Greece within 24 or > 48 hours. > > Stroller. > > Or if you feel shipping batteries to Greece is unreliable/ not possible offer the customer a 10-15% discount on their next purchase from your store. Maybe something like that

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-11 Thread Stroller
ectations. I know, because I've had to swallow the expense myself of hardware lost by the post office. He's a customer and he's entitled to "bad mouth" you, as long as he states the facts. I just don't get it: 1) you send out a phone with a duff battery. Not your

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Mosher
Probably best to send the requests directly to Joerg. Vasco Névoa wrote: > I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... > especially the last one, which is very blurred! > > Citando Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Sorry, >> >>I pulled the old copy. See belo

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-10 Thread Marcel
cost. I'd consider the amount paid for the battery (if it's not too much...) as kind of apprentice's premium (dict.leo.org translation for german "Lehrgeld"...) and find another store that is more reliable. -- Marcel Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 16:20:25 schrieb ankost

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-10 Thread ankostis
(At least now i got a reply!) Your reply raises 3 immediate issues: 1) If you were indeed willing to do business with me *before*, why then did you ignore my last 2+1 mails (see next issue), on Oct 31, Dec the 1st and Dec the 5th? 2) Since you claimed to have sent me already 1 battery and got

Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-10 Thread ankostis
Hi, as a last resort i'm reporting publicly my problems regarding a broken-on-arrival battery from Truebox.com after i had ordered from them OpenMoko's FR, on August 2008. I reported my problematic battery as soon as i got my hands on it, on late August-September on the following MLs

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-10 Thread Vasco Névoa
I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... especially the last one, which is very blurred! Citando Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry, > >I pulled the old copy. See below > > SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here: > > http://people.openmok

RE: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-10 Thread KaZeR
> -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de > Neil Jerram > Envoyé : mercredi 10 décembre 2008 11:56 > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List for Openmoko community discussion > Objet : Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! &g

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Mosher
Sorry, I pulled the old copy. See below SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf Please have a look and report on any mistakes or things that need improvement. Thanks jOERG Neil Jerram wrote: > 2

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-10 Thread Przemysław Maciąg
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/10 Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The DRAFT fix for the buzz problem is here: >> >> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT!!__.pdf > > I'm getting 404 for this URL. corrected ur

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-10 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/10 Steve Mosher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The DRAFT fix for the buzz problem is here: > > C&P of joerg's mail. > > > http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT!!__.pdf I'm getting 404 for this URL. Neil ___ Openmo

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-09 Thread Steve Mosher
tain events - call/message/cable connected/headset connected. > Without suspend phone can work only for about 8 hours or a little > more. With suspend my phone can be waiting for calls for a couple of > days without any problems. Battery life is for a long time not a > problem an

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-07 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 20:26 +0100, Leonti Bielski wrote: > Hello and welcome to OM community :) > ... > > 2.) From what you've written it seems like you don't suspend your > phone. What image do you use? Anyways, you have to enable autosuspend > - so phone will go to sleep while not being used an

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-07 Thread Leonti Bielski
nnected/headset connected. Without suspend phone can work only for about 8 hours or a little more. With suspend my phone can be waiting for calls for a couple of days without any problems. Battery life is for a long time not a problem anymore. Tips: try to manually suspend your phone using power butt

Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-07 Thread Dave Smith
ear enough - anyone suffered a similar issue and know / suspect it's cause? 2) Battery Life. I was warned by people before getting the phone that battery life wasn't great as of yet, and as I understand from what I have it is a fairly high priority. However, what do you folks do to

Re: Battery charge

2008-12-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 05 December 2008, Giorgio Marci wrote: > Hi to all, > > i've flashed my new neo twice without full charging before and i had > problems to boot at the second time (i guess energy issue). > > So i've booted successfully the neo with an external battery, plug i

Battery charge

2008-12-05 Thread Giorgio Marci
Hi to all, i've flashed my new neo twice without full charging before and i had problems to boot at the second time (i guess energy issue). So i've booted successfully the neo with an external battery, plug in the charger and repleced the external battery with the neo battery. Now t

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-12 Thread Damien Thébault
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:35, Tony Berth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't > succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? I'm able to boot it with powered only by the USB port and wi

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Christian Adams wrote: > on booting the FR needs more than 100mA - and that's the limit as > long as no system is running yet I wonder if the processor will start up far enough that it would be possible to negotiate more USB power in the bootloader. Also, one thing I find rather annoying: Why d

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Tony Berth wrote: > so USB connection doesn't provide enough 'juice' to boot? The reason was to > save on battery. Trying to avoid the memory effect! Li-Ion and LiPo don't suffer from memory effect: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-5A.htm "Do not discharge

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Tony Berth ha wrote: > I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't > succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? IIRC at some points 500mA are too few to run the FR (there was some threads in kernel ML), that's why it can'

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Cédric Berger
back >> cover >> on your phone. I only remove the cover (very carefully) when my phone >> freezes). >> >> It's also easier to find a new battery insted of finding a new back cover >> for >> the freerunner. >> I already have one of the little c

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Tony Berth
es). > > It's also easier to find a new battery insted of finding a new back cover > for > the freerunner. > > depeje > > Op Tuesday 11 November 2008 11:13:26 schreef Tony Berth: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Christian Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wr

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Peter Nijs
I think you should be more concerned with the clips that hold the back cover on your phone. I only remove the cover (very carefully) when my phone freezes). It's also easier to find a new battery insted of finding a new back cover for the freerunner. depeje Op Tuesday 11 November 2008

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Tony Berth
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Christian Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Am 11.11.2008 um 10:35 schrieb Tony Berth: > > > Hi, > > > > I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery re

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Tony Berth
Sorry you are right! I forgot to mention that it was plugged in the USB port! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Tony Berth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was tryin

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Christian Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 11.11.2008 um 10:35 schrieb Tony Berth: > Hi, > > I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and > didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for > that? > > Thanks > > To

Re: power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Tony Berth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't > succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? > so you were trying to boot without battery and

power-on without battery!

2008-11-11 Thread Tony Berth
Hi, I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmok

Re: u-boot and empty battery

2008-11-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
leonardo wrote: > Hello list, > I didn't quite understand if after this [1] thread the problem of > booting with a completely discharged battery has been solved, and if > there is a uboot image available.. does anybody have any clue? As I said you at Linux Day, it seems to work

Re: Battery charging : 1A from PC?

2008-11-04 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
arne anka a écrit : > -- but i am sure, trying to _charge_ with >500 is > asking too much. Thanks for your answer. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Battery charging : 1A from PC?

2008-11-04 Thread arne anka
> Does someone know if this kind of cable could be used to double-charge it might work -- but the usb spec does not specify that kind of thing. and, there's no guarantee that indeed 2x500 is drawn -- it might as well be 1x1000 and 1x0. those external harddisk usually only pull more then 500 for

Battery charging : 1A from PC?

2008-11-03 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Hi folks, I have an external 2.5" hard disk drive which could be used without any external power supply. To achieve this, it was shipped with a 'Y' USB cable : - on one end it has a mini USB connector - on the other end it has 2 USB connectors So you have to use 2 USB plugs to power the disk. Do

u-boot and empty battery

2008-10-29 Thread leonardo
Hello list, I didn't quite understand if after this [1] thread the problem of booting with a completely discharged battery has been solved, and if there is a uboot image available.. does anybody have any clue? ciao, leonardo. [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002531

Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> And still you can't assume consumption will be constant on > a sub-second time scale... It would be more user friendly to report > a remaining time based on an average consumption. Any time estimation should actually be done in userland anyway. Stefan ___

Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-14 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
And still you can't assume consumption will be constant on a sub-second time scale... It would be more user friendly to report a remaining time based on an average consumption. 2008/10/13 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 04:30:22PM -0400, Joel Newkirk wrote: >

Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-13 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 04:30:22PM -0400, Joel Newkirk wrote: > On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm > > 1

Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-13 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlighte

Battery crazy?

2008-10-13 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Fun using power button LEDs as battery indicator

2008-10-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
ust found out that the Freerunner > actually has a couple LEDs under the power button, but they don't seem to be > used yet in 2008.9 stable. So, I thought it would be helpful to use them as > an external battery power indicator. If you are like me, I let my phone > screen go bl

Re: Fun using power button LEDs as battery indicator

2008-10-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have written other script for that LEDs some time ago, it's called > ledd and it's indicating charging state and transferring data over > wifi. http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/ledd > I added this to the Buttons and LEDs page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRun

Re: Fun using power button LEDs as battery indicator

2008-10-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have written other script for that LEDs some time ago, it's called > ledd and it's indicating charging state and transferring data over > wifi. http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/ledd Look also at openmoko-led [1]; it was the first led implementation, it's written in

Re: Fun using power button LEDs as battery indicator

2008-10-10 Thread seba . dos1
, Nick Van Fossen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some of you probably knew this, but I just found out that the Freerunner > actually has a couple LEDs under the power button, but they don't seem to be > used yet in 2008.9 stable. So, I thought it would be helpful to use th

Fun using power button LEDs as battery indicator

2008-10-10 Thread Nick Van Fossen
Some of you probably knew this, but I just found out that the Freerunner actually has a couple LEDs under the power button, but they don't seem to be used yet in 2008.9 stable. So, I thought it would be helpful to use them as an external battery power indicator. If you are like me, I l

Re: dead battery

2008-10-03 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
enough > charge to at least jump start my fr. I put in the new battery, > plugged in the usb cable, and was able to boot. > > Then I took out the Rayovac battery and put the original > battery back in. Device stayed running and I am hoping the &g

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