Re: [Cooker] rc1 the last rc before final ?

2003-08-30 Thread w9ya
On Friday 29 August 2003 10:25 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > John Keller wrote: > > Copy of the reply I got from Bob, since it didn't go to the list: > > > > On Friday 29 August 2003 08:45 am, John Keller wrote: &g

Re: [Cooker] rc1 the last rc before final ?

2003-08-29 Thread w9ya
On Friday 29 August 2003 07:11 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: > From: "w9ya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Friday 29 August 2003 05:02 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > > > pro-linux reports that rc1 nay be the last rc before final vers

Re: [Cooker] rc1 the last rc before final ?

2003-08-29 Thread w9ya
On Friday 29 August 2003 06:45 am, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 12:19, w9ya wrote: > > 1 - Config files for pcmcia-wlan are reported to be messed up. This is > > *not* > > Uh? Reported where? I missed this... Here ! (Several messages/bug reports) Um, bt

Re: [Cooker] rc1 the last rc before final ?

2003-08-29 Thread w9ya
On Friday 29 August 2003 05:02 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Hi ! > > pro-linux reports that rc1 nay be the last rc before final version. Is > that true ? I haven't read anything about that and don't know where > they got that information from. A typical pro-linux misinformation ? > > regards > > St

Re: [Cooker] More mirror madness

2003-08-29 Thread w9ya
On Thursday 28 August 2003 05:20 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 23:05, w9ya wrote: > > On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:33 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:24, eddie wrote: > > > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > >

Re: [Cooker] More mirror madness

2003-08-28 Thread w9ya
On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:33 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:24, eddie wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:26, Dave Cotton wrote: > > >>Before I "retired" to France I worked in the UK as head of R&D for the > > >>market leader in specialist sof

[Cooker] Lack of signatures on gnome packages.

2003-08-28 Thread w9ya
Seems like these get fixed after a bit, but it also seems that it happens all the time too. Sigh... Bob

[Cooker] KDE Madness

2003-08-24 Thread w9ya
Hey gang: Without (again) opening the debate over the breakup/fragmentation of kde into the various packages by "Mandrake", I would however like to make a suggestion. I am *still* discovering which packages to install to recover functionality that I had a couple of months ago. To wit; I since

Re: [Cooker] Wireless car intialization failed : ifplugd stops

2003-08-22 Thread w9ya
Actually, this has been mentioned here MANY times, at least the part about ifplugd shuting down the pcmcia network card after it is up for a minute or so. It is becoming an old and ignored problem. It has a bugreport at Mandrake's bugzilla that is several weeks old as well. You might go to bugz

Re: [Cooker] Software submission for the Mandrake distribution

2003-08-21 Thread w9ya
he file to a fat32 partition and > re-boot again. > > I have done this *many* times. I think there is a *practical* need - for > some > users. > > Regards, > Manoj > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of w9ya &g

Re: [Cooker] Software submission for the Mandrake distribution

2003-08-20 Thread w9ya
can't see much of a *practical" difference between this and your proposal. The advantage is that you add no additional software and it *will* work. Bob Finch w9ya On Wednesday 20 August 2003 09:53 am, Michael Lothian wrote: > Hi > > I've already used this tool in XP (us

Re: [Cooker] Few items for wish list

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
Could this maybe be an easily selected option (if it isn't already) ? Bob On Thursday 07 August 2003 05:11 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:05, Larry Nguyen wrote: > > > 3. k3b: ArkLinux has this litto nice feature (or maybe it's k3

Re: [Cooker] Flash plugin

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
I've always "jimmyed " this up by hand with a apppropriate sym-link. Yes I know it is nasty, but it works, or at least did the last time I tried. WOrks with ALL the various linux distros I have tried it with. Bob Finch On Sunday 10 August 2003 11:24 am, Edward Tandi wrote: > Does anyone have t

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xchat-2.0.4-1mdk

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
this ml. Best regards; Bob Finch On Monday 11 August 2003 08:21 am, w9ya wrote: > Actaully I am rather getting use to the way things are now. It is really > handy to have over 50 basic packages not upgradable without manual > intervention. And not being able to fiqure out what is

[Cooker] No konsole

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
I tried submitting this thru Mandrake's bugzilla. I am (probably) still having some issues there, and therefore this may be the best place to submit it (for me). Anyways, there is no konsole in the latest kdebase (3.1.3-13mdk). The applnk et. al. also *appear* to be missing. This is not a kde i

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xchat-2.0.4-1mdk

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
On Monday 11 August 2003 06:17 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 23:43, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > Ainsi parlait w9ya : > > > Yes I am glad and thankful. Now the real question is why the various > > > package maintainers get away with such sloppy work.

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xchat-2.0.4-1mdk

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > w9ya wrote: > > > Afterall, the first rule of packaging should be to make sure it will > > > > actually > > > > > install as this is the first thing a package must do. I really have a > > > >

Re: [Cooker] No konsole

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
regards. Bob p.s... Thank you again for all the cool work you did on the package specs recently. On Tuesday 12 August 2003 11:09 am, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 17:39, w9ya wrote: > > I tried su

Re: [Cooker] No konsole

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
Thanxs for the answer. ...um.when there are these spilt-ups.is there a way to do so so that the addtional package is gotten ? (This question is somewhat retorical.) Bob On Tuesday 12 August 2003 11:13 am, you wrote: > w9ya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tuesday

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xchat-2.0.4-1mdk

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
Actaully I am rather getting use to the way things are now. It is really handy to have over 50 basic packages not upgradable without manual intervention. And not being able to fiqure out what is going on because of lousy spec files and other such lousy practices by the package maintainers. The e

Re: [Cooker] No konsole

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 10:53 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > I tried submitting this thru Mandrake's bugzilla. I am (probably) > > still having > > > some issues there, and therefore this may b

Re: [Cooker] Re: kde splitting: some problems

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
More to the point, as of two dayas ago, the deps were screwed up enough that you could not do an upgrade without doing a no-deps on this (kde et al) and MANY other packages including samba. I agree this is unacceptable. Instead of arguing at length, at least get this much working correctly pleas

Re: [Cooker] force update of hdlist files after deleting the old ones

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
Been there , done that. As I dimly remember I removed the sources from the urmpi.cfg file using the appropriate tool (rpmdrake works o.k. for this I guess), and then added back the source using the urpmi.addmedia command. Best regards; Bob Finch On Sunday 10 August 2003 03:19 pm, Kim Schulz w

Re: [Cooker] 9.2 "MEDIAS" -> MEDIA

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
On Monday 11 August 2003 06:15 pm, Pierre Jarillon wrote: > Le Lundi 11 Août 2003 18:28, Levi Ramsey a écrit : > > On Mon Aug 11 8:30 -0600, Alvin Austin wrote: > > > "Media" is already a plural and should be used instead. > > > > Probably won't be fixed... too much internal stuff will be affected

Re: [Cooker] Status Check

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
On Thursday 07 August 2003 10:04 am, François Pons wrote: > w9ya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hello gang; > > > > 1 - For me, I have been getting these results for a few days ro so, and > > with some packages well over a week. I feel uncomfortable defea

Re: [Cooker] An update since 1600 UTC has removed StarOffice 6.0

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
Hey Dave: I do NOT run it without at least --no-uninstall --auto --auto-select. This will tell you what "it" would like to do if you ran it without --no-uninstall, and also tells you about (some) deps issues. It does not remove stuff in any event. Changing --no-uninstall to --keep should also n

Re: [Cooker] Urpmi.update funky

2003-08-14 Thread w9ya
1 August 2003 09:01 am, you wrote: > > w9ya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is self-explanatory. > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bfinch]# urpmi.update -f > > > the entry to update is missing > > > (one of Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1), I

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xchat-2.0.4-1mdk

2003-08-12 Thread w9ya
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 08:29 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > Afterall, the first rule of packaging should be to make sure it will > > actually > > > install as this is the first thing a package m

[Cooker] Urpmi.update funky

2003-08-12 Thread w9ya
This is self-explanatory. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bfinch]# urpmi.update -f the entry to update is missing (one of Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1), Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2), International CD (x86) (cdrom3), update_source, plf, main, contrib) [EMAIL PROTECTED] bfinch]# cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xchat-2.0.4-1mdk

2003-08-11 Thread w9ya
Yes I am glad and thankful. Now the real question is why the various package maintainers get away with such sloppy work. Any takers on a *reasonable* answer to this? Bob On Monday 11 August 2003 03:10 pm, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday

Re: [Cooker] Urpmi.update funky

2003-08-11 Thread w9ya
Shouldn't this force an update to main and conrtib since they are not on "ignore" ? Bob On Monday 11 August 2003 09:01 am, you wrote: > w9ya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This is self-explanatory. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bfinch]# urpmi.update -f &

Re: [Cooker] Status Check

2003-08-07 Thread w9ya
e dep. issues extent. Thank you again. Bob On Thursday 07 August 2003 03:11 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, w9ya wrote: > > On Thursday 07 August 2003 10:04 am, François Pons wrote: > > > You may try the following option too --keep which avoid updating in &g

Re: [Cooker] dm - prefer kdm or gdm

2003-08-05 Thread w9ya
On Monday 04 August 2003 08:33 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 08:26, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 01:20, Robert L Martin wrote: > > > And personally i would strip all of the "You are logged in as Root > > > You are a Bad and Foul Person" dialogs from the distro.

Re: [Cooker] For 9.2 - automatic update notification

2003-08-01 Thread w9ya
Fine, then the description of --noclean should possibly remove the words; "...not used..." then ? Bob On Friday 01 August 2003 10:44 am, Duncan wrote: > On Fri 01 Aug 2003 07:36, w9ya posted as excerpted below: > > o.k.I'll bite...how is that different than: > &g

Re: [Cooker] For 9.2 - automatic update notification

2003-08-01 Thread w9ya
o.k.I'll bite...how is that different than: " --noclean - keep rpm not used in cache." (as far as default behavior ) ? Bob On Friday 01 August 2003 09:34 am, François Pons wrote: > w9ya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Good and thanxs for the reply(s)

Re: [Cooker] Aug 1 Cooker will not install from hd.img

2003-08-01 Thread w9ya
Actually, I would rather not see ANY of this kind of thing. Bob On Friday 01 August 2003 07:35 am, Marcel Pol wrote: > On 01 Aug 2003 07:55:26 -0400 > > Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 06:34, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Ah, it's another Ron Stodden Special. Had

Re: [Cooker] For 9.2 - automatic update notification

2003-08-01 Thread w9ya
NED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > Um, just a friendly note to remind ya'all that many of these command > > arguments > > > are NOT in the man page for urpmi. (I am currently using > > "no-uninstall" which > > > is also not i

Re: [Cooker] For 9.2 - automatic update notification

2003-08-01 Thread w9ya
Um, just a friendly note to remind ya'all that many of these command arguments are NOT in the man page for urpmi. (I am currently using "no-uninstall" which is also not in the man pages) And yes I *know* that docs often lag behind. (Sigh) Bob On Friday 01 August 2003 05:40 am, Guillaume C

Re: [Cooker] [AAARRRGGH!] Warning: new glibc broke my box

2003-07-31 Thread w9ya
Hey gang; I didn't see a notice here, so I thought I would ask: I am seeing glibc-2.3.2-10mdk up on (some of) the mirrors. Is this version o.k. to upgrade to from -8 ? Bob On Tuesday 29 July 2003 03:40 pm, parag shah wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:53:11PM +0200, Jan Ciger wrote: > > ---

Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: [CHRPM] imap-2002d-3mdk

2003-07-31 Thread w9ya
On my version of kmail it is one of the options, but not the default. Bob On Thursday 31 July 2003 11:08 am, Levi Ramsey wrote: > On Thu Jul 31 11:40 -0400, David Walser wrote: > > imap shouldn't use $HOME/Mail because other apps use that (Kmail etc). > > $HOME/mail might be safe. > > What mail

Re: [Cooker] urpmi wierdness

2003-07-30 Thread w9ya
Once again - right on the money about off-loading responsibility. Bob On Wednesday 30 July 2003 11:17 am, Levi Ramsey wrote: > On Wed Jul 30 14:52 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > You're going to have to be more specific. Which auto-generated deps? > > library deps (which have been in place for a

Re: [Cooker] urpmi wierdness

2003-07-30 Thread w9ya
Bingo !! Yep that is obviously the issue extent. Bob On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:08 am, Levi Ramsey wrote: > First of all, please do not post with Reply-To: set... > > On Wed Jul 30 2:05 +0200, lolomin wrote: > > answer, but i'm always amazed of this ( in a precedent message you were > > als

Re: [Cooker] urpmi wierdness

2003-07-29 Thread w9ya
Ug (sigh) On Tuesday 29 July 2003 05:10 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Luca Berra wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:07:52PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > >> Well, if you have any other packages broken by kerberos, grab > >> libcom_err.so.3 fr

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-27 Thread w9ya
successfully file a report the last time I tried to use it.) Thanxs for the sane replies and kind attitudes during them. Best regards; Bob On Sunday 27 July 2003 05:30 am, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 06:07, w9ya wrote: > > Hey Adam and the gang; > > > >

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-26 Thread w9ya
the bug report. Best regards; Bob On Friday 18 July 2003 07:08 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 22:37, Buchan Milne wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, w9ya wrote: > > > O.k. Here's yet some more observations. > > > > > > I was premature i

[Cooker] MIspeeled

2003-07-23 Thread w9ya
Hey gang; I noticed today that the "start menu" (in KDE) has this listing : Configuration -> Packaging -> Software Medias Manager Medias is mispeeled. Media is already plural and does not use an "s" at the end. Medium is the singular of this word. Bob Finch Lately some of my input has been a

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-19 Thread w9ya
On Saturday 19 July 2003 05:32 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, w9ya wrote: > > This is exactly what went on and was fixed immediately prior to the 9.1 > > release (and ifstaus -v is unchanged in either condition also). > > No it is not. Immediately prior to 9.1

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
On Friday 18 July 2003 04:37 pm, you wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, w9ya wrote: > > O.k. Here's yet some more observations. > > > > I was premature in stating that conditions had changed. It now appears > > that sometimes a full dhcp lease is retreved, and THEN

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
On Friday 18 July 2003 04:37 pm, you wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, w9ya wrote: > > O.k. Here's yet some more observations. > > > > I was premature in stating that conditions had changed. It now appears > > that sometimes a full dhcp lease is retreved, and THEN

Re: [Cooker] Building Cooker

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
Now this is a great reply IMHO, and a good example to follow. Concise, not preachy, very informative (I learned alot by reading it), and simple to read. Bob Finch On Friday 18 July 2003 11:02 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frank Griffin wrote: > >

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
On Friday 18 July 2003 12:25 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > HOWEVER: > > > > After rebooting the laptop without the pcmcia network card inserted, > > and then > > > inserting it watchi

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
On Friday 18 July 2003 04:37 pm, you wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, w9ya wrote: > > O.k. Here's yet some more observations. > > > > I was premature in stating that conditions had changed. It now appears > > that sometimes a full dhcp lease is retreved, and THEN

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
This is exactly what went on and was fixed immediately prior to the 9.1 release (and ifstaus -v is unchanged in either condition also). In my case I am using the pcnet_cs card, so it probably isn't specific to driver. Bob Finch On Friday 18 July 2003 07:42 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat,

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
This is exactly what went on and was fixed immediately prior to the 9.1 release (and ifstaus -v is unchanged in either condition also). In my case I am using the pcnet_cs card, so it probably isn't specific to driver. Bob Finch On Friday 18 July 2003 07:42 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat,

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
On Friday 18 July 2003 04:37 pm, you wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, w9ya wrote: > > O.k. Here's yet some more observations. > > > > I was premature in stating that conditions had changed. It now appears > > that sometimes a full dhcp lease is retreved, and THEN

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
On Friday 18 July 2003 12:25 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > HOWEVER: > > > > After rebooting the laptop without the pcmcia network card inserted, > > and then > > > inserting it watchi

Re: [Cooker] Building Cooker

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
Now this is a great reply IMHO, and a good example to follow. Concise, not preachy, very informative (I learned alot by reading it), and simple to read. Bob Finch On Friday 18 July 2003 11:02 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frank Griffin wrote: > >

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
leted. In both cases the drivers are there. Sorry about this confusion. Bob FInch On Friday 18 July 2003 12:16 pm, w9ya wrote: > Some additional info. > > On the kde desktop icon flashing issue. I moved some files into folders on > the desktop, and that seemed to fix the flashing. So

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
On Friday 18 July 2003 12:25 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > HOWEVER: > > > > After rebooting the laptop without the pcmcia network card inserted, > > and then > > > inserting it watchi

Re: [Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
again. No big deal just wanted to get this "on the record". On Friday 18 July 2003 11:17 am, w9ya wrote: > Hey Gang; > > Earlier this week, after a urpmi.update -a && urmpi --auto-select --auto, > the eth0 interface seemed to be set up just fine after a reboot. *Howev

Re: [Cooker] Building Cooker

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
Now this is a great reply IMHO, and a good example to follow. Concise, not preachy, very informative (I learned alot by reading it), and simple to read. Bob Finch On Friday 18 July 2003 11:02 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frank Griffin wrote: > >

[Cooker] dhcpcd cooked

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
Hey Gang; Earlier this week, after a urpmi.update -a && urmpi --auto-select --auto, the eth0 interface seemed to be set up just fine after a reboot. *However* logging into kde via kdm (not mdkkdm) oddly caused the routing and ifconfig for eth0 to "disappear". The modules for the pcmcia card we

Re: [Cooker] curl problems with urpmi

2003-07-18 Thread w9ya
Ditto Bob Finch On Friday 18 July 2003 09:31 am, Serge Plüss wrote: > At 7/18/2003 06:10 AM, you wrote: > >On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 15:59, François Pons wrote: > > > Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I keep getting curl errors when trying to use urpmi - but wget seems > > > > to work OK

Re: [Cooker] split lists?

2003-07-15 Thread w9ya
All of this discussion points to one thing (IMHO); things are much easier handled as they are. No additional responsibilities for people to handle, no additional places to go for information, nothing lost or placed in the wrong place. i.e. A good example of the K.I.S.S. principal in action. My

Re: [Cooker] PLEASE address build/install problems

2003-07-02 Thread w9ya
I think you have a valid point. However, it has been answered before that a working mkcd between releases is not a priority. In fact it appears to be a distraction to keep it working. (This last sentence is my interpretation of what I have read here.) So, while I agree fully with your sentiment

Re: [Cooker] PLEASE address build/install problems

2003-07-01 Thread w9ya
I *think* the original point was that mkcd wasn't happening for him anymore, and he wanted to make sure that it got fixed before the next release. I don;t think was having any issues about running cooker per se. (But I *might*have missed something.) Bob Finch On Tuesday 01 July 2003 07:55 am,

Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-26 Thread w9ya
Well I am glad they fixed it then. Thanxs for the updated info. Bob On Thursday 26 June 2003 01:42 pm, you wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:59:58AM -0500, w9ya wrote: > > Well, I attended just such a MS session (ts2) recently. When pressed the > > answer was that you got all t

Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality

2003-06-26 Thread w9ya
Well, I attended just such a MS session (ts2) recently. When pressed the answer was that you got all the files in any particular directory that was shadowed replaced. i.e. it was a directory "shadow"/replacement tool. It definitely was NOT a file by file replacement tool. I am sure they will co

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
That's what I was saying ! (Now be prepared for some flames.) Bob On Friday 20 June 2003 05:39 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 21:36 schrieb Buchan Milne: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Steffen Barszus wrote: > > > Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Friday 20 June 2003 12:56 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote: > On Fri Jun 20 11:22 -0500, w9ya wrote: > > Finally; and I cannot be any more specific that this. Why not make a > > better tool than Windows has, so new users can clearly see a superiority > > right off the bat. Make it

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Friday 20 June 2003 12:22 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 16:50, w9ya wrote: > > > > I *AM* saying that a user watching me install could easily think it > > > > was too hard. And I will maintain that having to hit all these damn > > > >

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Friday 20 June 2003 08:02 am, Greg Meyer wrote: > Forward to Cooker. I did it again. > > On Friday 20 June 2003 12:38 am, w9ya wrote: > > Well the issues you are talking about : "package management" and "query" > > have little to nothing to do wi

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 18 June 2003 04:27 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > >> >>find it easier as one. Personally I never use it since urpmi is my > >> > >> best freind now > >> > >> > Oh yeah, teach them urmpi and command line...lol. > >> > >> Did Gr

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Friday 20 June 2003 03:18 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > >>So packages on a CD don't count? Again, I do agree that users should be > >&

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Friday 20 June 2003 03:18 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > >>So packages on a CD don't count? Again, I do agree that users should be > >&

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
y more specific that this. Why not make a better tool than Windows has, so new users can clearly see a superiority right off the bat. Make it gui and play in their world -view. Bob On Thursday 19 June 2003 10:35 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > Forwarding to cooker since I sent it to w9ya personall

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Friday 20 June 2003 08:02 am, Greg Meyer wrote: > Forward to Cooker. I did it again. > > On Friday 20 June 2003 12:38 am, w9ya wrote: > > Well the issues you are talking about : "package management" and "query" > > have little to nothing to do wi

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-20 Thread w9ya
On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 18 June 2003 04:27 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > >> >>find it easier as one. Personally I never use it since urpmi is my > >> > >> best freind now > >> > >> > Oh yeah, teach them urmpi and command line...lol. > >> > >> Did Gr

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-19 Thread w9ya
y more specific that this. Why not make a better tool than Windows has, so new users can clearly see a superiority right off the bat. Make it gui and play in their world -view. Bob On Thursday 19 June 2003 10:35 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > Forwarding to cooker since I sent it to w9ya personall

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-19 Thread w9ya
On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 18 June 2003 04:27 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > >> >>find it easier as one. Personally I never use it since urpmi is my > >> > >> best freind now > >> > >> > Oh yeah, teach them urmpi and command line...lol. > >> > >> Did Gr

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-19 Thread w9ya
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 04:27 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 June 2003 10:50 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > >>I think it is interesting that some think it is easier as two, while > > o

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread w9ya
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 10:50 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Tuesday 17 June 2003 11:28 pm, w9ya wrote: > > Well, I will disagree for two reasons; > > > > 1 - The original point I was commenting on was that the 'drake' installer > > was getting more complicated

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread w9ya
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:16 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:37 pm, w9ya wrote: > > Yesterday I was at a client's. I was installing software using the > > 'drake' gui tools while they watched. The clients remarked that they were > > s

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and newbies: they sometimes miss *installed* software

2003-06-17 Thread w9ya
Yesterday I was at a client's. I was installing software using the 'drake' gui tools while they watched. The clients remarked that they were sure glad they didn't have to install software on linux. They went on to say the they were use to a much easier install process. They are not stupid. They

Re: [Cooker] Ignored bug procedure.

2003-03-28 Thread w9ya
On Friday 28 March 2003 10:42 am, Sascha Noyes wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 28 March 2003 06:34 am, w9ya wrote: > > What is the procedure to follow to get some attention to an ignored bug ? > > > > i.e. Is there a policy in

[Cooker] Ignored bug procedure.

2003-03-28 Thread w9ya
What is the procedure to follow to get some attention to an ignored bug ? i.e. Is there a policy in place when the person assigned to a bug is/has been "absebt without leave". Bob Finch

Re: [Cooker] Hebrew status (and some problems) on Bamboo

2003-03-27 Thread w9ya
Yeah this is a problem on my laptop in that I can no longer get to the "gettys" - i.e. stuck at terminal no. 7. Some sort of keyboard mapping is called for I guess? (Off hand impression) Bob Finch On Thursday 27 March 2003 12:15 pm, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all, every one

Re: [Cooker] Fwd: mpeg2enc timing results [narfi@cs.wisc.edu]

2003-03-25 Thread w9ya
/ I would be especially interested in any comments concerning some of the later comments on the article. Bob On Monday 24 March 2003 03:22 pm, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: > w9ya wrote: > >Again, some of the flags are being used wrong: > > > >Giuseppe please check the gcc docs,

Re: [Cooker] Fwd: mpeg2enc timing results [narfi@cs.wisc.edu]

2003-03-24 Thread w9ya
: > w9ya wrote: > >As I understand the gcc docs, using both -march and -mcpu is odd. You > > should probably be running these tests with just -march or just -mcpu. > > There may be some other issues as well, but this is as good a place to > > start as any. > > > >

Re: [Cooker] How to report (Am I missing something?)

2003-03-24 Thread w9ya
Join the club. MOST of my bug reports over the years have been ignored and/or not attended to, and I am very careful to not file a duplicate or a silly one. I investigate the, well before i submit to make sure they are correct and to the point. I even offer solutions many times. I think "they"

[Cooker] [Bug 3505] [drakxtools] Belkin F5D5020 PCMCIA card not recognized

2003-03-23 Thread w9ya
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3505 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-23 20:20 --- Hey Josh; Next time you use bugzilla please note that I have already submitted essentially this bug report. It should help if people "voted" one only one such bug rep

Re: [Cooker] Re: Lost keyboard capability

2003-03-21 Thread w9ya
Yes, but what/how/where is mandrake using to set this at install ? Bob On Friday 21 March 2003 05:32 pm, Pierre Jarillon wrote: > Le Vendredi 21 Mars 2003 20:17, w9ya a écrit : > > I was messing with bi-directional support and various secondary keyboard > > support with both kde&#

[Cooker] Re: Lost keyboard capability

2003-03-21 Thread w9ya
I was messing with bi-directional support and various secondary keyboard support with both kde's and mandrake's control center when I seem to have lost this capability. Bob On Friday 21 March 2003 02:16 pm, w9ya wrote: > Does anyone know what settings (and where/how to invoke th

[Cooker] Lost keyboard capability

2003-03-21 Thread w9ya
Does anyone know what settings (and where/how to invoke them) to return to the wonderful keyboard layout that Mandrake has that enables the wonderful US keyboard that can use the left windows key to bring up the kde "start" menu ? Bob Finch

Re: [Cooker] Fwd: mpeg2enc timing results [narfi@cs.wisc.edu]

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
As I understand the gcc docs, using both -march and -mcpu is odd. You should probably be running these tests with just -march or just -mcpu. There may be some other issues as well, but this is as good a place to start as any. Bob Finch On Wednesday 19 March 2003 03:12 pm, Austin wrote: > Here'

Re: [Cooker] 9.2 wishlist: urpmi --optimise

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday March 19 2003 10:23 am, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > > why are everyone so obsessed about "optimizing" their packages? in > > most cases it only gives marginal perfomance increase and often > > introduces weird bugs and performa

Re: [Cooker] 9.2 wishlist: urpmi --optimise

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:26 am, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > Perhaps Mandrake can/would compile the whole thing (distro) -mcpu i686 > > - -02 > > > instead of -march ???. That way you can ..."have you

Re: [Cooker] 9.2 wishlist: urpmi --optimise

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
Perhaps Mandrake can/would compile the whole thing (distro) -mcpu i686 -02 instead of -march ???. That way you can ..."have your cake and eat it too." Also, for those that just have to have more than what that offers (which is little as it turns out , according to the gcc folks), then have the b

Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:03 am, Sascha Noyes wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 09:49, w9ya wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 07:55 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > > > John Southern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 07:55 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > John Southern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BuyLinuxNow are saying that 9.1 is released. > > http://www.buylinuxnow.co.uk/mandrake_9.1.htm > > > > Are they early or am I late? > > it has been released but not yet announced. O.k. - So

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