Garance A Drosehn wrote:
>
> I think you misunderstand the goal. This is meant to benefit every
> single user who *updates* FreeBSD. That is a much larger audience
> than committers. This split has nothing to do with merging changes
> into the FreeBSD source repository.
>
> The merge we are ta
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
>
> I think the file needs to include the localhost.my.domain entry, even
> though every installation should be changing that 'my.domain' part.
Aargh, no, that's broken by default.
Tony.
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On Friday 01 September 2006 06:27, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 06:27:55PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> [...]
> > >I was thinking of /usr/share/examples/ppp (I thought it had
> > >been under /usr/share/examples/etc/ppp). Having
> > >/usr/share/examples/etc in its current fo
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 06:27:55PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
[...]
> >I was thinking of /usr/share/examples/ppp (I thought it had
> >been under /usr/share/examples/etc/ppp). Having
> >/usr/share/examples/etc in its current form really isn't all
> >that useful as for one thing it has rotted a
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:42:19PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> On Aug 30/06, Tom Rhodes asks the reasonable question:
> >On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:28:34 +0400
> >Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> > > >
> >> >
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:34:35 +0400
Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 05:21:13PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:09, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> > > At 8:48 AM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > >On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:18, To
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:58:38 +0200 (MET DST)
Helge Oldach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roman Kurakin:
> >I suggest to make these files the way which would encourage peoples to keep
> >example part, for example, under working part. Example will be still in the
> >file, it will not bother admin, cau
At 5:21 PM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:09, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> At 8:48 AM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote:
> >
>This is already spelled /usr/share/examples/etc in FreeBSD.
Actually, as it stands right now that is not quite the same
thing. Righ
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 05:21:13PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:09, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> > At 8:48 AM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote:
> > >On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:18, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400
> > > > Ruslan Ermilov <[
On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:09, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> At 8:48 AM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote:
> >On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:18, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400
> > > Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> > > > No, /etc/defaults are different b
Hello!
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Helge Oldach wrote:
127.0.0.1 localhost
::1 localhost
Noting the RFC 1918 addresses in the default /etc/hosts is *very* useful.
If we (part of the Inetnet community) wants to encourage proper IP use,
we shouldn't hide this information in an obscur
At 2:58 PM +0200 8/31/06, Helge Oldach wrote:
Roman Kurakin:
> I suggest to make these files the way which would encourage peoples
> to keep example part, for example, under working part. Example will
> be still in the file, it will not bother admin, cause it do not
> cover essential part of
At 1:53 PM +0400 8/31/06, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
[...] I'd replace the default /etc/hosts with:
127.0.0.1 localhost
::1 localhost
I think that is trimming that file too much. I think the file
needs to include the localhost.my.domain entry, even though
every installation sho
At 8:48 AM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:18, Tom Rhodes wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400
> Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, /etc/defaults are different beasties -- they are true
> default config files -- they are either used i
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, David O'Brien wrote:
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:53:52PM +0400, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
additional read(2) syscalls and parsing. I'd replace the
default /etc/hosts with:
127.0.0.1 localhost
::1 localhost
Noting the RFC 1918 addresses in the default /etc/h
David O'Brien:
>On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:53:52PM +0400, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
>> additional read(2) syscalls and parsing. I'd replace the
>> default /etc/hosts with:
>>
>> 127.0.0.1localhost
>> ::1 localhost
>
>Noting the RFC 1918 addresses in the default /etc/hosts is *very* usefu
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:53:52PM +0400, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> additional read(2) syscalls and parsing. I'd replace the
> default /etc/hosts with:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> ::1 localhost
Noting the RFC 1918 addresses in the default /etc/hosts is *very* useful.
If we (part of the
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Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: > b) by putting them in /etc/defaults, users do *see* the changes
: >when they run mergemaster, even though they won't have to
: >merge those changes with local changes. In some cases the
: >change
On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:18, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400
> Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >
> > No, /etc/defaults are different beasties -- they are true
> > default config files -- they are either used if there's no
> > corresponding version under
Roman Kurakin:
>I suggest to make these files the way which would encourage peoples to keep
>example part, for example, under working part. Example will be still in the
>file, it will not bother admin, cause it do not cover essential part of
>the file,
>and will simplify merging.
So, with the ben
Tom Rhodes wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400
Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, /etc/defaults are different beasties -- they are true
default config files -- they are either used if there's no
corresponding version under /etc, or most likely sourced
to provide defaults. To b
Helge Oldach wrote:
Sergey Babkin:
From: Tom Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like
make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults
with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples.
I don't t
Sergey Babkin:
>>From: Tom Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like
>>> make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults
>>> with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples.
>I don't think anything should be moved
>From: Tom Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like
>> make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults
>> with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples.
>> Like no /etc/hosts.allow file at all:
>>
>> """
>> A
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400
Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> No, /etc/defaults are different beasties -- they are true
> default config files -- they are either used if there's no
> corresponding version under /etc, or most likely sourced
> to provide defaults. To be moved
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:15:57PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> At 12:28 AM +0400 8/31/06, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> >
> > > ... I wonder if it would be better to
> > > have the comments and examples as files under /etc/defa
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:42:19PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> On Aug 30/06, Tom Rhodes asks the reasonable question:
> >On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:28:34 +0400
> >Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> > > >
> >> >
Gregory Shapiro wrote:
My list would be:
/etc/hosts
/etc/hosts.allow
/etc/pf.conf
/etc/printcap
I would add /etc/networks to that list (useless examples and often
modified).
I nominate /etc/login.conf for removal of its 7-year-old examples section.
> My list would be:
> /etc/hosts
> /etc/hosts.allow
> /etc/pf.conf
> /etc/printcap
I would add /etc/networks to that list (useless examples and often
modified).
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On Thursday 31 August 2006 10:12, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> These are files which have "too many" helpful comments or examples
> in them, and which I have to modify on every single machine I ever
> bring up. So *every* time one of these changes, I have to stop and
> stare at the diff in the merge
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:42:19 -0400
Garance A Drosehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 30/06, Tom Rhodes asks the reasonable question:
> >On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:28:34 +0400
> >Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:15:57 -0400
Garance A Drosehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:28 AM +0400 8/31/06, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> >
> > > ... I wonder if it would be better to
> > > have the comments and examples as files
On Aug 30/06, Tom Rhodes asks the reasonable question:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:28:34 +0400
Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> >
> I do think those comments and examples are useful, but it might be
> > better to mo
At 12:28 AM +0400 8/31/06, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> ... I wonder if it would be better to
> have the comments and examples as files under /etc/defaults. I
> suppose they could also go under /usr/share/examples, but for
> th
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:28:34 +0400
Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> > [perhaps this should be continued on freebsd-arch?]
> >
> I think this is too simple material for freebsd-arch. :-)
>
> > At 1:27 PM +0200 8/30/0
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> [perhaps this should be continued on freebsd-arch?]
>
I think this is too simple material for freebsd-arch. :-)
> At 1:27 PM +0200 8/30/06, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
> >> Modified files:
> >> etc hosts.a
[perhaps this should be continued on freebsd-arch?]
At 1:27 PM +0200 8/30/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Modified files:
etc hosts.allow
Log:
> Comment out lines that use example addresses and example.com
> names so t
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