Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-10 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
> James R Phillips writes: > BTW, the gnuplot version in Debian sarge behaves exactly the same way as the > cygwin version in response saving a file if kpsexpand is not present. And > Debian does not list tetex-bin as a dependency for gnuplot. Probably this > needs to be res

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-08 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Tony Richardson wrote: > Igor Pechtchanski cs.nyu.edu> writes: > > > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Tony Richardson wrote: > > > > > I often use octave and do no plotting at all. Octave starts and runs > > > fine if gnuplot isn't installed. (It complains about not being able > > > to f

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-08 Thread Tony Richardson
Igor Pechtchanski cs.nyu.edu> writes: > > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Tony Richardson wrote: > > > I often use octave and do no plotting at all. Octave starts and runs > > fine if gnuplot isn't installed. (It complains about not being able > > to find gnuplot when the plot command is used.) Should t

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Charles Wilson
Chris Taylor wrote: James R. Phillips wrote: OK, it seems an elaboration of the idea could though. The autoconf/automake environment needs to be like octave, while the rest of the time, you want miktex in the front of the path. Wouldn't executing export PATH=$PATH_FOR_OCTAVE before starting

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Tony Richardson wrote: > I often use octave and do no plotting at all. Octave starts and runs > fine if gnuplot isn't installed. (It complains about not being able > to find gnuplot when the plot command is used.) Should there really > be a dependency if only a subset of fea

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, James R. Phillips wrote: > --- Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > Ok, so first off, octave-forge *shouldn't* depend on tetex-bin. If > > anything needs to depend on tetex-bin, it should be gnuplot. The > > presence of tetex-bin in octave-forge's requires: line is a packaging > > b

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Tony Richardson
James R. Phillips yahoo.com> writes: > > The octave-forge legend command requires tetex-bin. This came up in: > > http://www.octave.org/mailing-lists/help-octave/2005/4239 > > I promised to fix it, and I did. > > Everyone who complains about long downloads should get broadband ;) > > Everyo

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread James R. Phillips
--- Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > Ok, so first off, octave-forge *shouldn't* depend on tetex-bin. If > anything needs to depend on tetex-bin, it should be gnuplot. The presence > of tetex-bin in octave-forge's requires: line is a packaging bug (even if > it's intended to work around gnuplot's missin

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, John W. Eaton wrote: > OK, let's back up a bit, and see why kpsexpand is needed in the first > place. Yes, let's. > Graphics in Octave use gnuplot. The legend function from Octave Forge > sends a "save FILE" command to gnuplot so that it can extract some > information about

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread John W. Eaton
OK, let's back up a bit, and see why kpsexpand is needed in the first place. Graphics in Octave use gnuplot. The legend function from Octave Forge sends a "save FILE" command to gnuplot so that it can extract some information about gnuplot's current state. If you do the following mv /usr/bin/

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread James R. Phillips
Chris Taylor wrote: >...the OP _doesn't_ want his configure scripts picking up tetex... This is what the OP said: "If I don't put miktex in the front of my path, then the configury stuff is happy (finds tetex, uses tetex), but *I'm* not happy because *I* want to call miktex binaries from my cygw

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Chris Taylor wrote: > Two things: Firstly, the OP _doesn't_ want his configure scripts picking > up tetex, ergo tetex must not be in the path. > [snip] As you noted, for tetex to not be in the PATH, it needs to not be installed. > The only way to stop this behaviour is to > a

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Taylor
James R. Phillips wrote: Chris Taylor wrote: This doesn't solve the core problem that configure will pick up the >presence of cygwin's tetex and expect it - the cygwin tetex install >would need to be masked entirely in order to use miktex and not >have configure expect tetex.. OK, it seems

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:22:57PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Dec 6 13:47, James R. Phillips wrote: >> FWIW, the 12-04 and 12-05 cygwin1.dll snapshots seem to cause >> octave-2.1.72-1 to hang on exit, but only if some significant >> computations and plots are done. Just starting and then

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread James R. Phillips
Chris Taylor wrote: >This doesn't solve the core problem that configure will pick up the >presence of cygwin's tetex and expect it - the cygwin tetex install >would need to be masked entirely in order to use miktex and not >have configure expect tetex.. OK, it seems an elaboration of the idea co

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec 6 13:47, James R. Phillips wrote: > FWIW, the 12-04 and 12-05 cygwin1.dll snapshots seem to cause > octave-2.1.72-1 to hang on exit, but only if some significant > computations and plots are done. Just starting and then exiting > doesn't trigger the problem. This is a regression relative

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Taylor
James R. Phillips wrote: Charles Wilson wrote: But apparently I can't use octave. Hm, actually we wouldn't want to lose such a knowledgeable user. We need users like you in order to improve octave. Would this work for you? Prior to putting miktex at the front of your path, say in your .p

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-07 Thread James R. Phillips
Charles Wilson wrote: >But apparently I can't use octave. Hm, actually we wouldn't want to lose such a knowledgeable user. We need users like you in order to improve octave. Would this work for you? Prior to putting miktex at the front of your path, say in your .profile, it should be possible

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-06 Thread Charles Wilson
James R. Phillips wrote: The octave-forge legend command requires tetex-bin. This came up in: http://www.octave.org/mailing-lists/help-octave/2005/4239 Ok, thanks, that makes sense. I had a feeling the texinfo/makeinfo subthread was a red herring. I'll uninstall octave and all the, err, un

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-06 Thread James R. Phillips
The octave-forge legend command requires tetex-bin. This came up in: http://www.octave.org/mailing-lists/help-octave/2005/4239 I promised to fix it, and I did. Everyone who complains about long downloads should get broadband ;) Everyone who complains about many files should get a bigger hard d

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-06 Thread John W. Eaton
w text and info | >>files -- nothing there should need TeX. I use MikTeX so I don't want | >>to have cygwin-TeX installed, but this octave-forge dependency pulls in | >>the whole mess for no good reason... | > | >Octave uses makeinfo to format docstrings. | | makeinfo i

Re: octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
ed TeX. I use MikTeX so I don't want >>to have cygwin-TeX installed, but this octave-forge dependency pulls in >>the whole mess for no good reason... > >Octave uses makeinfo to format docstrings. makeinfo is in the texinfo package not the TeX package. cgf -- Unsubscribe

octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-05 Thread John W. Eaton
this octave-forge dependency pulls in the | whole mess for no good reason... Octave uses makeinfo to format docstrings. jwe -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.htm

octave-forge dependency?

2005-12-05 Thread Charles Wilson
Why does package octave-forge depend on tetex-bin? As far as I can tell, octave-forge contains .oct and .m files, and few text and info files -- nothing there should need TeX. I use MikTeX so I don't want to have cygwin-TeX installed, but this octave-forge dependency pulls in the whole