Bug#1108742: xterm is missing in Gnome's application list
On Sat, Jul 05, 2025 at 02:18:09PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > There is a blacklist? I had spent precious time searching for some > GUI or context menu to add and remove applications to show. I'd never > expected a static blacklist. It doesn't even have a man page. that's the GNOME standard of performance > Can anybody maintaining this blacklist imagine I have installed xterm, > vim and emacs on purpose, because I actually want to *use* them? Apparently, the answer is "no". fwiw, none of those involved makes positive contributions to anything that I work on. -- Thomas E. Dickey https://invisible-island.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1108742: xterm is missing in Gnome's application list
There is a blacklist? I had spent precious time searching for some GUI or context menu to add and remove applications to show. I'd never expected a static blacklist. It doesn't even have a man page. Can anybody maintaining this blacklist imagine I have installed xterm, vim and emacs on purpose, because I actually want to *use* them?
Bug#1108742: xterm is missing in Gnome's application list
On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 04:17:31PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2025-07-04 13:35 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Package: xterm > > Version: 398-1 > > > > The xterm package provides *.desktop files, but it is not > > shown in Gnome's application window. > > Because xterm is installed on most desktops (as a dependency of the xorg > metapackage for instance), and Gnome packagers do no want to confuse > novice users with multiple terminal applications, so they blacklist > xterm. actually, it's more than that. /etc/gnome/menus.blacklist lists more than 150 desktop files, intentionally excluding anything that GNOME may provide, including KDE, XFCE4, Vim (because after all, GNOME provides a text-editor). I don't see anything comparable in the other desktop environments. (I install all of the ones that I know about, for testing). > > This is not as expected. > > Different people have different expectations, see the discussion in > #645736. :-) -- Thomas E. Dickey https://invisible-island.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1108742: xterm is missing in Gnome's application list
On 2025-07-04 13:35 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Package: xterm > Version: 398-1 > > The xterm package provides *.desktop files, but it is not > shown in Gnome's application window. Because xterm is installed on most desktops (as a dependency of the xorg metapackage for instance), and Gnome packagers do no want to confuse novice users with multiple terminal applications, so they blacklist xterm. > This is not as expected. Different people have different expectations, see the discussion in #645736. Cheers, Sven
Bug#1108742: xterm is missing in Gnome's application list
Package: xterm Version: 398-1 The xterm package provides *.desktop files, but it is not shown in Gnome's application window. This is not as expected. Regards Harri
